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GPU and MoBo Chipset should be the same? Is this true?

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June 8, 2006 11:38:52 PM

So, another noobish question, but I've heard that it's a good idea to have the Motherboard chipset and the GPU from the same company, for example, you should pair an nVidia GPU with a MoBo that has an nVidia chipset on it. Likewise, you should pair an ATI GPU with a MoBo that has an ATI chipset.

Is there any truth to this, or is it just speculation? What difference would/could it make?

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June 9, 2006 12:14:23 AM

Is it true? No.
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June 10, 2006 1:47:26 AM

A single ATI card actually runs faster on an nF4 NVidia mobo than it does using a Radeon chipset mobo. What about Intel chipset boards? Intel has "G" series chipsets, but for all the other Intel boards there would be no videocards!
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June 10, 2006 3:00:50 AM

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So, another noobish question, but I've heard that it's a good idea to have the Motherboard chipset and the GPU from the same company, for example, you should pair an nVidia GPU with a MoBo that has an nVidia chipset on it. Likewise, you should pair an ATI GPU with a MoBo that has an ATI chipset.

Is there any truth to this, or is it just speculation? What difference would/could it make?

Thanks

It really depends. If your asking about putting a Nvidia GPU in a crossfire mobo it want work. If your asking about putting a ATI GPU in a SLI mobo it may not work correctly. If your asking about putting an Nvidia GPU in a mobo with an ATI chip set its may not work correctly. If your asking about putting an ATI GPU in any non SLI mobo with a Nvidia chip set it should work fine.

If your wanting to put a PCI GPU in an mobo with an Intel chip set from the 82845 up then it should work fine. If your wanting to put a PCI GPU in a mobo with an Intel chip set lower that the 82845 then your mobo chip set will fry.
June 10, 2006 4:37:44 PM

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So, another noobish question, but I've heard that it's a good idea to have the Motherboard chipset and the GPU from the same company, for example, you should pair an nVidia GPU with a MoBo that has an nVidia chipset on it. Likewise, you should pair an ATI GPU with a MoBo that has an ATI chipset.

Is there any truth to this, or is it just speculation? What difference would/could it make?

Thanks

It really depends. If your asking about putting a Nvidia GPU in a crossfire mobo it want work. If your asking about putting a ATI GPU in a SLI mobo it may not work correctly. If your asking about putting an Nvidia GPU in a mobo with an ATI chip set its may not work correctly. If your asking about putting an ATI GPU in any non SLI mobo with a Nvidia chip set it should work fine.

If your wanting to put a PCI GPU in an mobo with an Intel chip set from the 82845 up then it should work fine. If your wanting to put a PCI GPU in a mobo with an Intel chip set lower that the 82845 then your mobo chip set will fry.

Wow...

ATI, VIA, Nvidia, SIS,ULI,Intel,...

They all do chipset. Chipset buses have to comply with standard. PCI standard, AGP standard,PCI-e standard.. All chipset should follow those guide line if they dn't want to have problem with compatibility. Same for video card. ATI and Nvidia make videocard. And chipset too. But what about VIA or SIS?? You think that ATI and nvidia are dumb enough to make their chipset/video card compatible only with them, flushing away lot of video card sale to people that has VIA or SIS chipset??

You can put any video card with any chipset. while you may get better performance between same brand(because they obviously know what to do to optimize thing on their hardware), you are not supposed to have any incompatibility between brand, because they all comply to standard. It would be suicidal for, let say, nvidia to prevent third party hardware working on thieir. It would give them bad press, and lot of company wont choose a product with them fearing future problem. Hey, they don't make chipset and video card only for gamers.. Office computer does need a something to display on the screen.

The only exception is either crossfire or SLI. They are not hardware stuff but software stuff. That's the drivers that detect the chipset and allow or prevent these mode to work or not (not that I said "these mode" and not these video card.... if you have 2 ATI video card in a sli motherboard, then you will have 2 video card able 2 run 4 screens...you simply won't have cooperation mode between video card(unless you hack the driver)). Happily, hacked drivers allow to run crossfire or sli on any motherboard with any chipset that has 2 PCI-e graphic slot...

to put is simply, you can buy any board, with any chipset and connect any video card and it should work. If it dont, then it is the motherboard maker that screw up thing with their design or BIOS.
June 10, 2006 5:17:37 PM

My mobo is an ASUS A8N-E (nForce4, no SLI) ad the video card is an Abit RX700 Pro 256MB PCIE. No problems at all, always worked fine with ATI Catalyst drivers and also OC'ed.
June 10, 2006 6:03:49 PM

dunno about ATI, but nvidia has really gone out of the line here.
not only they recommend nvidia chipsets on mobo, the now recommend 'SLI power supply', 'SLI system memory' and even coolers for CPU. all for the sake of 'optimized performance'.
its like every thing has to be 1:1:1:1:1

whats wong with using standard stuffs?
June 10, 2006 6:30:36 PM

No.

You can Nvidia, ATI, Maxtor and other VGAs out there on Intel chipset.

You can run ATI on Nforce (Nvidia) chipset.

You can run Nvidia on Crossfire (ATI) chipset.
June 10, 2006 8:21:55 PM

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dunno about ATI, but nvidia has really gone out of the line here.
not only they recommend nvidia chipsets on mobo, the now recommend 'SLI power supply', 'SLI system memory' and even coolers for CPU. all for the sake of 'optimized performance'.
its like every thing has to be 1:1:1:1:1

whats wong with using standard stuffs?


Yes, just like GM recommend GM genuine part for maintenance, or JVC recommending JVC media with their electronics appliances like video cams...

You really beleive that nvidia would advertize" running best with crossfire mobo" if that was the case???

Don't be so dumb.. it's all about marketing and name visibility.. at the end, it bring more money to nvidia.

hardware compatibility is 100%.. all incompatibility are with drivers that would sense a non nvidia chip┼Łet and prevent sli even if the motherboard has everything to run sli. Asrock has a motherboard with ULI chipset that could run SLI ... until nvidia told them to not use their hacked drivers to allow sli on ULI.. That was making them loosing money because they could not rip customer with their more expensive SLIU chipset..
June 11, 2006 1:26:30 AM

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No.

You can Nvidia, ATI, Maxtor and other VGAs out there on Intel chipset.

You can run ATI on Nforce (Nvidia) chipset.

You can run Nvidia on Crossfire (ATI) chipset.

Try a FX5500 PCI on a 82815 and see if the intergrated chip doesn't run at the same speed as the FX5500. Its one of the worst mistakes Intel ever did and when your intergrated chip goes you loss your mobo because its tied to all the other parts.

As for the rest, the drivers dont support the chipsets and have not been tested nearly enough.

While PCIE is a standard SLI isn't because its owned by Nvidia and Crossfire isn't because its owned by ATI. Nvidia for the most part has made all their none SLI chipsets comply with PCIE standards but SLI doesn't.

ATI made a second multi PCIE chipset the 3200 to be more compliant because of the negitive press.

While were on GPU's does the new 7950 which is 2 GPU's on 1 card require an SLI mobo?
June 11, 2006 3:24:24 AM

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No.

You can Nvidia, ATI, Maxtor and other VGAs out there on Intel chipset.

You can run ATI on Nforce (Nvidia) chipset.

You can run Nvidia on Crossfire (ATI) chipset.

Try a FX5500 PCI on a 82815 and see if the intergrated chip doesn't run at the same speed as the FX5500. Its one of the worst mistakes Intel ever did and when your intergrated chip goes you loss your mobo because its tied to all the other parts.

As for the rest, the drivers dont support the chipsets and have not been tested nearly enough.

While PCIE is a standard SLI isn't because its owned by Nvidia and Crossfire isn't because its owned by ATI. Nvidia for the most part has made all their none SLI chipsets comply with PCIE standards but SLI doesn't.

ATI made a second multi PCIE chipset the 3200 to be more compliant because of the negitive press.

While were on GPU's does the new 7950 which is 2 GPU's on 1 card require an SLI mobo?

SLI is software. The SLI chipset is just a normal chipset with something that allow them to be seen differently than other non sli chipset so they can sell it for more. SLI is enabled by software. Why do you think the nvidia Ultra chipset could be hacked to a fully SLI chipset... Because they are the same. Only a bridge on the SLI chipset would make them "SLI" and bue recognized by SLI drivers. This is the same for Crossfire.

They are software trick to use 2 video cards for in cooperative mode instead of complementive mode.
June 11, 2006 3:32:45 PM

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No.

You can Nvidia, ATI, Maxtor and other VGAs out there on Intel chipset.

You can run ATI on Nforce (Nvidia) chipset.

You can run Nvidia on Crossfire (ATI) chipset.

Try a FX5500 PCI on a 82815 and see if the intergrated chip doesn't run at the same speed as the FX5500. Its one of the worst mistakes Intel ever did and when your intergrated chip goes you loss your mobo because its tied to all the other parts.

As for the rest, the drivers dont support the chipsets and have not been tested nearly enough.

While PCIE is a standard SLI isn't because its owned by Nvidia and Crossfire isn't because its owned by ATI. Nvidia for the most part has made all their none SLI chipsets comply with PCIE standards but SLI doesn't.

ATI made a second multi PCIE chipset the 3200 to be more compliant because of the negitive press.

While were on GPU's does the new 7950 which is 2 GPU's on 1 card require an SLI mobo?

SLI is software. The SLI chipset is just a normal chipset with something that allow them to be seen differently than other non sli chipset so they can sell it for more. SLI is enabled by software. Why do you think the nvidia Ultra chipset could be hacked to a fully SLI chipset... Because they are the same. Only a bridge on the SLI chipset would make them "SLI" and bue recognized by SLI drivers. This is the same for Crossfire.

They are software trick to use 2 video cards for in cooperative mode instead of complementive mode.
SLI is scan line interleave a video system originally designed by 3DFX. 3DFX sold out to Nvidia some 6 years ago and with it SLI. While true SLI is mostly PCIE its more of a splitting of a single PCIE channel into 2 channels.

Crossfire while PCIE split the channel but is different in that it load balances not on a 50/50 scale. While true its mostly PCIE aswell.

Now GPU's of the previous genaration have a master and slave setup and if the GPU is of the master card design it will display problems when encountering none vendor chipset.
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