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Anonymous
August 30, 2005 9:54:46 PM

Archived from groups: alt.games.microsoft.flight-sim (More info?)

Anyone in the know about RAID, with my new system which has RAID HD's I have
been having installation issues with older sims i.e. total failure of them
to install, sometimes they start to and get stuck 1/2 way thro. Sometimes
the setup file just refuses to work.

Sims which install OK are FS9, IL2 and all the add-ons, Lock on, CFS2 & 3

Sims which wont are CFS1, Mig Alley, F15, FU2 & 3

I have tried the old trick of changing the compatability to no effect.

The system is 1Gb RAM, ATi X850 card, NEC DVD R/W.

Or could this be an issue re the DVD drive not being purely a CD drive?

Frustrating this hobby!
August 30, 2005 9:54:47 PM

Archived from groups: alt.games.microsoft.flight-sim (More info?)

On Tue, 30 Aug 2005 17:54:46 GMT, "Arthur Dent"
<arthurdent@magrathea.com> brought the following to our attention:

>Anyone in the know about RAID, with my new system which has RAID HD's I have
>been having installation issues with older sims i.e. total failure of them
>to install, sometimes they start to and get stuck 1/2 way thro. Sometimes
>the setup file just refuses to work.
>
>Sims which install OK are FS9, IL2 and all the add-ons, Lock on, CFS2 & 3
>
>Sims which wont are CFS1, Mig Alley, F15, FU2 & 3
>
>I have tried the old trick of changing the compatability to no effect.
>
>The system is 1Gb RAM, ATi X850 card, NEC DVD R/W.
>
>Or could this be an issue re the DVD drive not being purely a CD drive?
>
>Frustrating this hobby!
>


Arthur.. drive hardware shouldn't have anything to do with the
installation of software.. it should be transparent. Check your
Windows `Event Viewer' for errors. OTOH have had significant
difficulties with ATA/100 RAID installations on an integrated SCSI
based system.. because the Promise RAID adapter also shows
up in Device Manager as a SCSI unit.

The problems were `bad blocks' causing the drive-pair to fault.
After this happened a few times.. simply ran two redundant parallel
drives.. but those developed bad blocks also.. mostly CH2.

Went from a FastTrak100 TX2 down to an Ultra100 TX2.. then finally
attached the hi-capacity drives to the open mainboard IDE ports. With
a quick registry entry in Win2000.. the system now handles 160GB and
200GB drives.. but no longer RAID. The Promise cards are now pulled.

IDE RAID has been troublesome.. as before attempted an 80GB pair with
Adaptec 1200A RAID adapter which seemed to work.. but bad drives
caused lots of trouble. Went to Promise adapters instead and have both
a 40GB pair and 80GB pair on FastTrak adapters which work fine (on old
retired boxes).

It shouldn't be the RAID array.. also make sure to observe the 18"
cable length for ATA/100 or/133. Before transferring all your valuable
data to the array.. run it and stress test it for a week or three!!

SCSI is better but really expensive. Don't turn away from IDE RAID
completely.. but test it out for a while first.. or you may be faced
with a struggle to recover tons of your important data.


-Gregory
Anonymous
August 31, 2005 3:49:04 AM

Archived from groups: alt.games.microsoft.flight-sim (More info?)

Thanks for the reply though I didn't understand much of it, But as you say
the HD should be transparent. Maybe the problem is this new fangled ATi
card with its twin SLI. I looked at the event viewer and not much
forthcoming there in info.
Another possibility which comes to mind is that all these progs were bought
in the UK so maybe they dont like being installed on a Canadian/US system
(unlikely) the other possibility (more likely) is the cd's have been damaged
in transit. But why would it effect only the older sims? Visually they
look oK


"Gregory" <flightsim.maps@bkwds.comcast.net> wrote in message
news:vb79h1t03lo2a9nrphu2ig6kq6u1l7e6t7@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 30 Aug 2005 17:54:46 GMT, "Arthur Dent"
> <arthurdent@magrathea.com> brought the following to our attention:
>
>>Anyone in the know about RAID, with my new system which has RAID HD's I
>>have
>>been having installation issues with older sims i.e. total failure of them
>>to install, sometimes they start to and get stuck 1/2 way thro. Sometimes
>>the setup file just refuses to work.
>>
>>Sims which install OK are FS9, IL2 and all the add-ons, Lock on, CFS2 & 3
>>
>>Sims which wont are CFS1, Mig Alley, F15, FU2 & 3
>>
>>I have tried the old trick of changing the compatability to no effect.
>>
>>The system is 1Gb RAM, ATi X850 card, NEC DVD R/W.
>>
>>Or could this be an issue re the DVD drive not being purely a CD drive?
>>
>>Frustrating this hobby!
>>
>
>
> Arthur.. drive hardware shouldn't have anything to do with the
> installation of software.. it should be transparent. Check your
> Windows `Event Viewer' for errors. OTOH have had significant
> difficulties with ATA/100 RAID installations on an integrated SCSI
> based system.. because the Promise RAID adapter also shows
> up in Device Manager as a SCSI unit.
>
> The problems were `bad blocks' causing the drive-pair to fault.
> After this happened a few times.. simply ran two redundant parallel
> drives.. but those developed bad blocks also.. mostly CH2.
>
> Went from a FastTrak100 TX2 down to an Ultra100 TX2.. then finally
> attached the hi-capacity drives to the open mainboard IDE ports. With
> a quick registry entry in Win2000.. the system now handles 160GB and
> 200GB drives.. but no longer RAID. The Promise cards are now pulled.
>
> IDE RAID has been troublesome.. as before attempted an 80GB pair with
> Adaptec 1200A RAID adapter which seemed to work.. but bad drives
> caused lots of trouble. Went to Promise adapters instead and have both
> a 40GB pair and 80GB pair on FastTrak adapters which work fine (on old
> retired boxes).
>
> It shouldn't be the RAID array.. also make sure to observe the 18"
> cable length for ATA/100 or/133. Before transferring all your valuable
> data to the array.. run it and stress test it for a week or three!!
>
> SCSI is better but really expensive. Don't turn away from IDE RAID
> completely.. but test it out for a while first.. or you may be faced
> with a struggle to recover tons of your important data.
>
>
> -Gregory
>
>
!