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June 9, 2006 9:21:36 AM

yep... i'm serious. here is a picture for it.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v30/johnli0615/DSC018...

what's on the picture: conroe was at 35% of load, if you are lucky enough to see that. as you probably see from the task manager, conroe was running two threads at the moment.

what's not on the picture: conroe was throttled @ 1.8Ghz. the fan had been turned off for approximately an hour before i took the shot. it was an E6600, throttled down.

ok.. i know i didn't have CPU-Z up. my picture is very blurry. i couldn't prove its a conroe underneath that heatsink.

however, computex taipei doesn't allow you to take any picture, unless you're with press / media. i beg the pretty lady who set up this machine to let me take a photo shot. she was really really really nice to let me record this unbelievable yet true image.

worried about your CPU fan going to fail? don't worry, get a Conroe :D  .

P.S. if you guys have any doubt, please post a reply. i'll see if i can get you guys a clearer screenshot tomorrow @ taipei.

PP.S. please download the picture into your comp, then use zoom in. *i promise the picture doesn't have a virus on it*.

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June 9, 2006 10:54:45 AM

If conroe at 1.8 dont need fan. Merom can run cold in a laptop with a big heatpipe.
June 9, 2006 11:05:09 AM

Can't see anything on the picture. Too blurry. But, if true, interesting to say the least
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June 9, 2006 12:49:56 PM

Is that a porpoise?
June 9, 2006 2:21:50 PM

It looks like some kind of whale. But thats about all I can make out of the picture. Even if he had CPU-Z up we wouldn't be able to read jack crap on it.
a c 480 à CPUs
June 9, 2006 2:50:45 PM

I believe I read somewhere that the TDP of a Conroe (I don't recall the model) is approximately 75w (not the Conroe EE version). If that is accruate then it is definitely possible to passively cool a Conroe.

The S939 Athlon 64 X2 3800+ has a TDP of 89w and measure power consumption of 65w. In a case with decent airflow, it can passively cooled by the Scythe Ninja. I've read some posts at www.SilentPCReview.com where a few people were daring enough to cool the X2 4400+ passively. Of course that requires a case with good airflow.
June 9, 2006 3:24:38 PM

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I believe I read somewhere that the TDP of a Conroe (I don't recall the model) is approximately 75w (not the Conroe EE version). If that is accruate then it is definitely possible to passively cool a Conroe.

The S939 Athlon 64 X2 3800+ has a TDP of 89w and measure power consumption of 65w. In a case with decent airflow, it can passively cooled by the Scythe Ninja. I've read some posts at www.SilentPCReview.com where a few people were daring enough to cool the X2 4400+ passively. Of course that requires a case with good airflow.


4meg conroe models should ship out @ 65w rated IIRC.
June 9, 2006 3:24:48 PM

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yep... i'm serious. here is a picture for it.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v30/johnli0615/DSC018...

what's on the picture: conroe was at 35% of load, if you are lucky enough to see that. as you probably see from the task manager, conroe was running two threads at the moment.

what's not on the picture: conroe was throttled @ 1.8Ghz. the fan had been turned off for approximately an hour before i took the shot. it was an E6600, throttled down.

ok.. i know i didn't have CPU-Z up. my picture is very blurry. i couldn't prove its a conroe underneath that heatsink.

however, computex taipei doesn't allow you to take any picture, unless you're with press / media. i beg the pretty lady who set up this machine to let me take a photo shot. she was really really really nice to let me record this unbelievable yet true image.

worried about your CPU fan going to fail? don't worry, get a Conroe :D  .

P.S. if you guys have any doubt, please post a reply. i'll see if i can get you guys a clearer screenshot tomorrow @ taipei.

PP.S. please download the picture into your comp, then use zoom in. *i promise the picture doesn't have a virus on it*.



Is that really a surprise?? :roll: I just can't believe people these days become so fuss for nothing unusual. I have run my 939 X2 4200+ PASSIVELY COOLED, NO FAN ON THE CPU, all what I have in the rig is 2 cooling fan in the case, 1 at front 1 at rear. The rig can run under heavy load like ripping dvd, play BF2 whole day without single problem, go figure.
June 9, 2006 3:28:04 PM

Mmm... TR XP120 + Core 2 Duo or Scythe Ninja + Core 2 Duo both without a fan or with a very quiet one, like 500-800rpm... nice. Just wondering.
June 9, 2006 3:40:47 PM

Kinda reminds me of the toms video a few years back (AMDs burn baby burn). Btw is the fan failing really going to cause the processor to burn (for those who don’t remember the HSF was removed in the AMD article) or do any other permanent damage?

I guess it’s just a marketing ploy………………
June 9, 2006 6:22:34 PM

big question: anyone wondered what temperature was in that room because I see the case is open. Maybe was somewhere about 5 degrees C... :D 
June 9, 2006 6:50:50 PM

Quote:
yep... i'm serious. here is a picture for it.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v30/johnli0615/DSC018...

what's on the picture: conroe was at 35% of load, if you are lucky enough to see that. as you probably see from the task manager, conroe was running two threads at the moment.

what's not on the picture: conroe was throttled @ 1.8Ghz. the fan had been turned off for approximately an hour before i took the shot. it was an E6600, throttled down.

ok.. i know i didn't have CPU-Z up. my picture is very blurry. i couldn't prove its a conroe underneath that heatsink.

however, computex taipei doesn't allow you to take any picture, unless you're with press / media. i beg the pretty lady who set up this machine to let me take a photo shot. she was really really really nice to let me record this unbelievable yet true image.

worried about your CPU fan going to fail? don't worry, get a Conroe :D  .

P.S. if you guys have any doubt, please post a reply. i'll see if i can get you guys a clearer screenshot tomorrow @ taipei.

PP.S. please download the picture into your comp, then use zoom in. *i promise the picture doesn't have a virus on it*.


in all fairness, all modern processors from intel and AMD will shut themselves off anyways if they reach too high of a temperature.
June 9, 2006 7:10:02 PM

yep, but if the thermal diode fails, someone's gonna end up in smoke -" Burn baby, burn! " :D 
June 9, 2006 7:16:14 PM

Gah i thoguht this was without a heatsink...that would have been something!!!

I have the Scythe Ninja with no fan and i can do anything (dual prime) and my Opty 165 (2.8GHz) doesnt get above 55C.

Is the stock Conroe heatink no hetpipes? Then i guess that is somewhat better from current gen...
June 9, 2006 7:17:49 PM

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I believe I read somewhere that the TDP of a Conroe (I don't recall the model) is approximately 75w (not the Conroe EE version). If that is accruate then it is definitely possible to passively cool a Conroe.

The S939 Athlon 64 X2 3800+ has a TDP of 89w and measure power consumption of 65w. In a case with decent airflow, it can passively cooled by the Scythe Ninja. I've read some posts at www.SilentPCReview.com where a few people were daring enough to cool the X2 4400+ passively. Of course that requires a case with good airflow.
The guys over on XS forums told
about running Core passively about a month and a half ago.
June 9, 2006 7:33:40 PM

I bet the one they claim will run on less than 1w doesn't need a heatsink.
June 9, 2006 7:40:21 PM

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I bet the one they claim will run on less than 1w doesn't need a heatsink.
It's such a shame that they are finally cutting
down the CPU's appetite for power, yet on the flipside of the coin, video cards
are taking their place, with future #'s like 300 watts staring us in the face. We
just can't win for losing. :cry: 
June 9, 2006 8:39:53 PM

:? What are you talking about?! Clearly I could see there's a stock 775 HSF inside the opened case, although I can't really tell if it's running or not since it's a picture. Core could run cooler than it's predessesor but still would need a HSF at a low rpm. :D  That's a very significant performance per watt we have ever seen, and possibly no doubt a highly overclockable cpu as well. :D 
June 9, 2006 9:08:00 PM

And this is?
June 9, 2006 9:23:55 PM

Heh, would have been better to see the wires for the fan sticking out of the case, unless it was software controled to shut off, or run at a low RPM.

As the old saying goes... "Seeing is Believing."

Guess we all will have to wait when the chip is on the market for us to buy, see what other people get as far as any test results, and seeing those results before deciding to buy it.
June 9, 2006 9:39:45 PM

While I certainly don't doubt that it's possible, I can't take that photo alone as proof.

For example, one of the pics of my machine being built



If you look closely, it looks as if the fans aren't spinning over my processor however you can see my display running. I can assure you the fans were spinning.

I know that there will be passively-cooled systems, I've used the "silent" setting on my Zalmans for few hours before I relized that I had other sound issues to attend to. I guess I'm just trying to say that photo!=proof
June 9, 2006 10:09:50 PM

Sorry, but even that photo doesn't show much.
June 10, 2006 4:38:42 AM

I realize, that wasn't the main focus of the pictures, I was just snapping them as I was going along, and later when I reviewed them I thought "Huh, isn't that funny, it looks like my fans aren't spinning in these photos..." and this topic just reminded me of them. Probably unecessary, didn't add a lot to the topic I know, but it is just providing "proof" that a photo of a system where it looks as if the fans aren't spinning, that alone doesn't mean they are in fact not spinning.
June 10, 2006 11:56:25 AM

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And this is?

if you zoom in, you'll actually see the fan is shut off. i apologize for the low quality of the picture.
June 10, 2006 12:54:34 PM

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i apologize for the low quality of the picture.
You better you had me so excited until i saw the pics.
a c 102 à CPUs
June 10, 2006 3:40:18 PM

Most CPUs made in the last 5 years will shut down when a fan fails and/or they get too hot. Just yesterday I was putting Gentoo on my old laptop with a 2.2 GHz Pentium 4-M CPU and I accidentally forgot to compile the ACPI fan control into the kernel- I left it as a module. So I started compiling, and about 10 minutes later, the laptop just shuts off without the fan ever coming on. I looked in the BIOS logs and sure enough, it recorded that the temp hit 94 C and forced a shutdown. I rebooted, modprobed the fan control, and the computer was no worse for the wear.
June 10, 2006 5:02:40 PM

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Kinda reminds me of the toms video a few years back (AMDs burn baby burn). Btw is the fan failing really going to cause the processor to burn (for those who don’t remember the HSF was removed in the AMD article) or do any other permanent damage?

I guess it’s just a marketing ploy………………


Best... video... EVER. I still chuckle when I watch that one.

And the irony of it... several, several years after seeing the video... I accidentally destroyed a friends AMD 1400 (same as in the video)... I was helping him with something and I just needed it to post to verify everything was ok... I just sat the heatsink on top of the CPU and before it ever posted, it was fried. Damn you AMD!
June 10, 2006 5:29:55 PM

THe ways things are going on cpu's i would belive it would not need a fan just a heatsink and some case fans and good air flow you be all set :D 
June 10, 2006 5:50:00 PM

So basically the Core2 can run at full load and even with the stock fan shut off it doesn't overheat because it runs cold for it is using low watts. You mean we could passively cool the Core2? That would be nice.
June 10, 2006 7:32:15 PM

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THe ways things are going on cpu's i would belive it would not need a fan just a heatsink and some case fans and good air flow you be all set :D 
When you consider that the Heatsink manufacturers have jumped on the "passive cooling" bandwagon, and these are working on recent processors(not even the low voltage ones coming out), it's not much of a STRETCH to believe that a Conroe could
run without a fan. Heatsink is a different story,maybe Intels new 1watt
CPU's may get by with the bare die, but that remains to be seen. :?
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