New Orleans is becoming Atlantis

[dallas]

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New Orleans is becoming Atlantis

02:35 PM So much for dodging a bullet - If you are not watching the news
right now, New Orleans is leaking. What was dry after the Hurricane is
slowly going underwater. The video coming out is showing mind boggling
destruction and it's getting worse not better. It's beginning to look like
this was "the big one" for New Orleans.

This is rapidly becoming an Indonesian Tsunami class disaster and easily the
worst N. American disaster in my lifetime.

If I had a flat bottom boat I'd drive down there to help the rescue efforts.

Dallas

 

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Unfortunately, the magnitude of the developing disaster is so large in
New Orleans that the infrastructure has broken down. Looters are
running amuck, starting with drug and liquor stores and now moving to
jewelry stores. I read that 1000 prisoners are on the loose and they
are taking hostages. A crisis like this always brings out the extremes
in people-good and bad.
-Greg

 

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I always thought New Orleans was a great city to visit, with
incomparable food and music but I never had the slightest desire to
live there. Now it's a true "hell hole". It is such a vital economic
zone with huge shipping and oil resources, that I can only think that
they will rebuild and go on.
-Greg

 

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"Beech45Whiskey"
> but there is no way that the death tolls from the
> hurricane will come close to the lives lost from the Tsunami.

True, I should have specified "not the death toll, but the destruction of
property". This one will be over $50 billion dollars, maybe way over.

Dallas

 

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I love New Orleans... Some of the best years of my life were spent there
and I've got the bullet scars to prove it, but it isn't called the murder
capitol of America for nothing...

"The City that Care Forgot" is no more...


"aakermit" <aakermit@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> Unfortunately, the magnitude of the developing disaster is so large in
> New Orleans that the infrastructure has broken down. Looters are
> running amuck, starting with drug and liquor stores and now moving to
> jewelry stores. I read that 1000 prisoners are on the loose and they
> are taking hostages. A crisis like this always brings out the extremes
> in people-good and bad.
> -Greg
>

 

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Dallas, it was the lead item and by far the longest on our BBC news programs
this evening. Horrendous scenes and our hearts go out to anyone who has been
affected. I know that the US is better equipped than any country to deal
with such a situation so we know that assistance will be given as quickly as
possible but it is a huge task.

The Fox news crews were talking to some people who are probably not very
wealthy and who said they had lost everything. I guess that they possibly
could not afford insurance. Does the state or federal government help out in
such cases? I assume that some financial assistance will be given. I hope so
anyway.

Iain


"Dallas" <Cybnorm@spam_me_not.Hotmail.Com> wrote in message
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> New Orleans is becoming Atlantis
>
> 02:35 PM So much for dodging a bullet - If you are not watching the news
> right now, New Orleans is leaking. What was dry after the Hurricane is
> slowly going underwater. The video coming out is showing mind boggling
> destruction and it's getting worse not better. It's beginning to look
> like
> this was "the big one" for New Orleans.
>
> This is rapidly becoming an Indonesian Tsunami class disaster and easily
> the
> worst N. American disaster in my lifetime.
>
> If I had a flat bottom boat I'd drive down there to help the rescue
> efforts.
>
> Dallas
>
>

 

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FEMA will provide free money, housing assistance etc for those that cannot
afford to repay anything ..they did that when we got hit by Andrew in
1992...and last year when we got hit by 4? hurricanes that criss crossed
Florida.

The problem with FEMA as we have discovered here in Miami is that too many
scams and false claims were paid out. There is an investigation currently
underway in Fl about this. And you know the good will suffer for the bad
when this is over.

I am truly sorry for the folks in the gulf states. Katrina hit me as a CAT1
and that was enough.
Bill


"Iain Smith" <iainsmith.rugby@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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> Dallas, it was the lead item and by far the longest on our BBC news
> programs this evening. Horrendous scenes and our hearts go out to anyone
> who has been affected. I know that the US is better equipped than any
> country to deal with such a situation so we know that assistance will be
> given as quickly as possible but it is a huge task.
>
> The Fox news crews were talking to some people who are probably not very
> wealthy and who said they had lost everything. I guess that they possibly
> could not afford insurance. Does the state or federal government help out
> in such cases? I assume that some financial assistance will be given. I
> hope so anyway.
>
> Iain
>
>
> "Dallas" <Cybnorm@spam_me_not.Hotmail.Com> wrote in message
> news:IN2Re.3606$Wd7.1244@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>> New Orleans is becoming Atlantis
>>
>> 02:35 PM So much for dodging a bullet - If you are not watching the news
>> right now, New Orleans is leaking. What was dry after the Hurricane is
>> slowly going underwater. The video coming out is showing mind boggling
>> destruction and it's getting worse not better. It's beginning to look
>> like
>> this was "the big one" for New Orleans.
>>
>> This is rapidly becoming an Indonesian Tsunami class disaster and easily
>> the
>> worst N. American disaster in my lifetime.
>>
>> If I had a flat bottom boat I'd drive down there to help the rescue
>> efforts.
>>
>> Dallas
>>
>>
>
>

 

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Here in LA we don't worry about hurricanes. Our problem is
earthquakes. After the Northridge quake in 1994, thousands of people
used FEMA money to remodel homes which had absolutely no earthquake
damage. The damage in New Orleans and along the Gulf Coast is
staggering. I hope the money goes to those who truly need it.
-Greg

 

[Guest]

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Ditto the Salvation Army. They do it right.
Greg

 

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"Jay Williams" <Voodoo141@buggeroffspammercox.net> wrote:

>I love New Orleans... Some of the best years of my life were spent there
>and I've got the bullet scars to prove it, but it isn't called the murder
>capitol of America for nothing...
>
>"The City that Care Forgot" is no more...

Just an observation:
When the tsunami hit last year, the US was right there with financial
and humanitarian help. In fact it was the biggest financial
contributor.

But, has anyone heard of any country offer any help now??
Where are the French, the Germans, the... (pick your own) ???

Curious ...

BTW - what's an 'industrial strength helicopter' ;-)
I just heard that on CNN today ;-))

I've heard of 'heavy lift helicopters' - but industrial strength ...
sound like some cleaning agent ;-)
Reporters can be redicuously amusing at times even when they don't
want to be!

-=tom=-

 

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What is overlooked when international aid is discussed is that
Americans tend to support disaster relief through private donations
rather than through the government. The statistics quoted often
overlook private donations. In this area Americans are very generous.
There is a great deal of resentment against America because of our
wealth. We can probably deal with this disaster without foreign help,
although I'm sure it is being offered.
-Greg

 

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and i BET you there wont be any massive relief funds/collections for the
USA....

....Such a shame.

--
From Overlag - Adam Webb


"Dallas" <Cybnorm@spam_me_not.Hotmail.Com> wrote in message
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> "Beech45Whiskey"
>> but there is no way that the death tolls from the
>> hurricane will come close to the lives lost from the Tsunami.
>
> True, I should have specified "not the death toll, but the destruction of
> property". This one will be over $50 billion dollars, maybe way over.
>
> Dallas
>
>

 

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just a question to nuance your statement a bit: if you divide the donated
amount by the number of inhabitants, were the US still the biggest financial
contributor??

"Tom Orle" <xspam.torle@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> "Jay Williams" <Voodoo141@buggeroffspammercox.net> wrote:

snip

> Just an observation:
> When the tsunami hit last year, the US was right there with financial
> and humanitarian help. In fact it was the biggest financial
> contributor.
>
> But, has anyone heard of any country offer any help now??
> Where are the French, the Germans, the... (pick your own) ???

snip

> -=tom=-

 

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> just a question to nuance your statement a bit: if you divide the donated
> amount by the number of inhabitants, were the US still the biggest
> financial
> contributor??
>

nope. far off it id say.

--
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"Bill Phoelich" <bill.phoelich@norubrubishcegetel.net> wrote:

>just a question to nuance your statement a bit: if you divide the donated
>amount by the number of inhabitants, were the US still the biggest financial
>contributor??

Why would this be an issue? It's the bottom line final amount that
counts!

But before we continue this line of thought - let's just agree to
disagree.

-=tom=-

 

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Tom Orle <xspam.torle@comcast.net> wrote:

>"Bill Phoelich" <bill.phoelich@norubrubishcegetel.net> wrote:
>
>>just a question to nuance your statement a bit: if you divide the donated
>>amount by the number of inhabitants, were the US still the biggest financial
>>contributor??
>
>Why would this be an issue? It's the bottom line final amount that
>counts!
>
>But before we continue this line of thought - let's just agree to
>disagree.
>
>-=tom=-

Bill,

My original post is now moot anyway.
According to the news, the UK and Germany have both offered
assistance.

If a neighbous house gets damaged, most of us will at least offer to
help no matter how wealthy the owner is.
The lack of such compassion from other countries is what I tried to
address in my original post - not the amounts.
(Yes, I know, I brought up the amount issue myself - I guess I
shoudn't have)

-=tom=-

 

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"Tom Orle" <xspam.torle@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> When the tsunami hit last year, the US was right there with financial
> and humanitarian help. In fact it was the biggest financial
> contributor.

I think you overestimate the generosity of the USA. In total funds it was
second behind Japan by a billion dollars, and per capita, it was ranked
20th. (What would be interesting though is to find out how much was
actually delievered, rather than just pledged and forgotten.)

But the fact is that the tsunami hit considerably poorer countries without
the wealth and infrastructure to deal with it themselves, and international
aid agencies were quick off the mark to plead for assistance, and the
affected governments equally quick to show gratitude. As yet I've not seen
any representative of an aid organisation or US govenrment agency request
aid or assistance. Don't write of the generosity of the world's people
before it's even been asked for. Plenty of money was raised for the victims
of 9/11 after all.

Si

 

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On Wed, 31 Aug 2005 11:42:26 -0400, Tom Orle wrote:

> Just an observation:
> When the tsunami hit last year, the US was right there with financial
> and humanitarian help. In fact it was the biggest financial
> contributor.
>
> But, has anyone heard of any country offer any help now??
> Where are the French, the Germans, the... (pick your own) ???

Please, let's not start a war here, shall we? Just today the State
Department & White House have announced that no fewer than FOURTEEN
countries - including Russia - have offered assistance in the form of SAR
teams, food, clothing, oil, etc.

Don't forget it took the US over a full week to get it's "tsunami aid" for
Indonesia rolling...

Bill

 

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"Beech45Whiskey" <pjricc@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Dallas <Cybnorm@spam_me_not.Hotmail.Com> wrote:
>
>> "Beech45Whiskey"
>>> but there is no way that the death tolls from the
>>> hurricane will come close to the lives lost from the Tsunami.
>>
>> True, I should have specified "not the death toll, but the destruction of
>> property". <snip>
>
That's rather pathetic.. Do you even realise that? I doubt that you do.

 

[dallas]

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"Jod"
> That's rather pathetic.. Do you even realise that? I doubt that you do.

Not worthy of a response.



Dallas

 

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sorry
and sorry for top posting
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> "Beech45Whiskey" <pjricc@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>> Dallas <Cybnorm@spam_me_not.Hotmail.Com> wrote:
>>
>>> "Beech45Whiskey"
>>>> but there is no way that the death tolls from the
>>>> hurricane will come close to the lives lost from the Tsunami.
>>>
>>> True, I should have specified "not the death toll, but the destruction
>>> of
>>> property". <snip>
>>
> That's rather pathetic.. Do you even realise that? I doubt that you do.
>
>

 

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Jod wrote:
> sorry
> and sorry for top posting
> "Jod" <Jod@Starwars.com> wrote in message
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>>


still haven't figured it out, huh?

 

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"Dallas" <Cybnorm@spam_me_not.Hotmail.Com> wrote in message
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>
> "Jod"
>> That's rather pathetic.. Do you even realise that? I doubt that you do.
>
> Not worthy of a response.
>
>
>
> Dallas
>
>
Was that not a response?

 

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Errr, mate - yes it certainly was a worthy response, by Dallas.

I'm surprised you weren't sure, and had to ask.

I'm guessing it takes all types, right?

JW
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> "Dallas" <Cybnorm@spam_me_not.Hotmail.Com> wrote in message
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>> "Jod"
>>> That's rather pathetic.. Do you even realise that? I doubt that you do.
>>
>> Not worthy of a response.
>>
>>
>>
>> Dallas
>>
>>
> Was that not a response?
>

 

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The use of language which you critically examined is often referred to as a
rhetorical question.

Jod

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> Errr, mate - yes it certainly was a worthy response, by Dallas.
>
> I'm surprised you weren't sure, and had to ask.
>
> I'm guessing it takes all types, right?
>
> JW
> "Jod" <Jod@Starwars.com> wrote in message
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>> "Dallas" <Cybnorm@spam_me_not.Hotmail.Com> wrote in message
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>>>
>>> "Jod"
>>>> That's rather pathetic.. Do you even realise that? I doubt that you
>>>> do.
>>>
>>> Not worthy of a response.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dallas
>>>
>>>
>> Was that not a response?
>>
>
>