athlon

[airvents]

hey guys im just wondering since there isent alot of software that uses the 64 bit platform. would a 64 bit 3200 be faster than a 3200 32 bit proc in games only no multitasking or ne thing just games

 

[chuckshissle]

I don't think so with games.

 

[airvents]

alright i wasnt sure or not but thx

 

[SidVicious]

Are you intending to compare an Athlon64 in 32bit mode vs 64bit mode or asking about how an Athlon64 in 32bit mode would fare against an Athlon XP ?

 

[dvdpiddy]

Are you intending to compare an Athlon64 in 32bit mode vs 64bit mode or asking about how an Athlon64 in 32bit mode would fare against an Athlon XP ?

I think that is what he's trying to say.

 

[SidVicious]

Are you intending to compare an Athlon64 in 32bit mode vs 64bit mode or asking about how an Athlon64 in 32bit mode would fare against an Athlon XP ?

I think that is what he's trying to say.

The point of my question was to find out which one of the two :

A64 32bit vs A64 64bit

OR

A64 32bit vs AXP

 

[kryojenix]

I don't have a clearcut answer.
But, I would like to point out that:

* The Athlon64 3200+ runs at 2.0 GHz

* The AthlonXP 3200+ runs at 2.2 GHz

but of course Athlon64 has an on-die dual channel DDR controller, SSE2 and SSE3 instruction thingys (Venice revision), and a HyperTransport bus instead of Frontside Bus ...

I don't know what these things actually mean, but it sure sounds speccy! Why don't you just look at Tom's Hardware CPU benchmark charts? THG Processor charts 2005/2006

 

[Scougs]

The question isn't very well stated.

Here is how those options rank though:

1. Athlon 64 running 64-bit software
2. Athlon 64 running 32-bit software
3. Athlon XP running 32-bit software

 

[airvents]

what i was trying to say is athlon64 vs a athlon xp in 32 bit benchmarks is that better?

 

[dvdpiddy]

In theory no but when you look at what they both got the XP3200's only advantage is clockspeed but the a64 3200 has 5x faster bus, an integrated mem controller, sse2 sse3 support, and better cache access time(atleast 5-10 nano seconds faster than the xp3200) So my theory is that even though it's slower it should be about even.

 

[Scougs]

In theory no but when you look at what they both got the XP3200's only advantage is clockspeed but the a64 3200 has 5x faster bus, an integrated mem controller, sse2 sse3 support, and better cache access time(atleast 5-10 nano seconds faster than the xp3200) So my theory is that even though it's slower it should be about even.

The two processors have largely different cores. Performance wise there is no competition unless maybe you are talking about one of the slowest socket 754 Athlon 64s vs. the fastest Athlon XP.

 

[dvdpiddy]

I meant the s939 version when is aid that the xp3200 has a 200mhz advantage over it.

 

[SidVicious]

Even then, clock for clock, an A64 would spank an AXP in all benchmarks, it all boils down to the front end of those two uarch.

Tom's Benchmarks and Cold Hard Facts speak volume.

 

[dvdpiddy]

Uh sid you put the a64 3500 not the 3200 like he asked. And the venice 3200 even though it's slower beats the xp3200 in some benchmarks.

 

[SidVicious]

You missed "Clock for Clock" in my last post.

Regardless, a 3200+ A64 @ 2GHz would still spank a 3200+ AXP @ 2.2GHz.

 

[endyen]

That's a little understated. I first bought an A64 3200 s754 edition. It replaced a xp-m 2500 clocked at 2.4 ghz (that's 200 mhz faster than the xp3200) Even at stock, the A64 outperformed the xp.

 

[dvdpiddy]

You missed "Clock for Clock" in my last post.

Regardless, a 3200+ A64 @ 2GHz would still spank a 3200+ AXP @ 2.2GHz.

I know but when you look at it it still amazes me that it can take on a northwood 2.8ghz , A prescott at 3ghz, and a northwood at 3,06 ghz wow i thought that the nortwood would own it at that speed.

 

[airvents]

alright well what line of product could i use from intel to my 3200? Im not a noob with computers or ne thing its just iv never been part of a forum that would answer my questions so thats why im trying to get all the missing peices to my knowlede of computers

 

[airvents]

IU was thinking something close to the P4 line up or maybe the extreme? im ot to up to date on intels line up but i am thinnking of buying a processor and mobo so i can finnaly have pci express

 

[nukemaster]

just for reference

these are not about the XP3200+ vs A64 3200+ but it is in there (note the crappy 640X480.....but it gives an idea)
http://www.tomshardware.com/2003/10/21/the_athlon_cooler_cometh_at_2/page6.html
http://www.tomshardware.com/2003/09/23/amd/page23.html

Hope this helps

EDIT
i see that you have posted about pci-e....the benchmarks are 754....but 939 and 754 are close (amd dropped 200mhz for dual channel ram on 939)

 

[airvents]

alright thx for the help