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Intel 930 and 940 vs AMD Dual Core 3800 and 4200

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June 11, 2006 1:07:30 PM

I know this is likely to generate a fair amount and rantings and ravings but I also hope to get some straight answers. Also I'm fully aware of Conroe and AMD 2 but given everything, the above CPUs will be fine given the price performance ratio. I'm helping a friend put together a new machine. He wants it for video capturing, editing, and burning as well as music editing. He is a serious musician, i.e., that's how he makes a living. He will not be overclocking or upgrading the CPU in the future. Any upgrades would be for possibly a video card, more likely sound card, or burner. Just got a promotional E Mail from newegg for these to CPUs.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/CustRatingReview.asp?DEPA...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/CustRatingReview.asp?Item...

Both are close to $100 cheaper than the AMD Dual Core 3800 and 4200 and it looks like the performance should be about the same with no heating problems with a stock HSF. Is there any good reason to pay significantly more for one of the above AMDs? I don't own stock in Intel or AMD and have no emotional attachment to either, just want the best price/performance. Thanks
June 11, 2006 1:39:23 PM

I will reiterate what prozac26 said, AMD dual-core processors tend to be better than the current Intel processors (sorry, just a precaution against fanboys... of either kind). Overall, a 3800+ X2 should cover your friend pretty nicely, low operating temps yet very decent performance, meaning you don't have to spend so much on cooling.
June 11, 2006 2:05:58 PM

amd is better, but i'd save a $100. the guy probably won't notice the difference, but he'll like the extra c-note. if that small incremental change is that important, just wait a month for conroe.
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June 11, 2006 2:15:53 PM

If you want the best bang for buck, I would certainly recommend the Intel dual cores over AMD X2s.

The X2s generally perform better, but really, they are way too overpriced.

Go to Tom's CPU charts and check out the price/performance ratio charts. You will see what I mean.

Besides, with the extra money you save, you can probably get very good cooling which can help you overclock a lot, and get even better performance.

The downside is: power. The Pentium Ds consume more power than the X2s.
June 11, 2006 2:43:05 PM

Thanks for the quick replies and the referrences to the CPU charts. Compared them on the Pinnacle Studio 9 because the video editing is likely the most resourse intensive actiivity he'll likely do. The 930 is within a tenth of a second of the 4200 and the 940 is equal to the 4600 and a tenth of a second slower than the 4800 so we're talking major savings. The case will be an Antic Sonata II and I wouldn't expect heating should not be a problem using a standard HSF and the PSU should be sufficient. Currently doing video stuff in a Sonata with the original PSU using a P4 3.0 Northwood and have had no problems. Impressed no fanboy crap, just good advise and opinions, there is hope for the future. :D 
June 11, 2006 3:42:23 PM

u can always buy a pentium d 805, overclock it to 3.33ghz, nothing extra needed since u dont need to increase voltage, only increase the fsb from 133mhz to 166mhz, then u can buy a conroe compatible mobo
June 11, 2006 3:44:38 PM

Of course, that’s Intel's strongest suit; get into gaming and the AMD chips leave the Intel chips pretty far behind. If he only wants to do video editing, Intel is his chip.
June 11, 2006 4:22:51 PM

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Of course, that’s Intel's strongest suit; get into gaming and the AMD chips leave the Intel chips pretty far behind. If he only wants to do video editing, Intel is his chip.


Nicely put, what is best to buy really comes down to how you'll use it, be it CPUs, cars, or whatever.

As to the suggestion of getting a Conroe compatable board and overclocking, he will not overclock so what he get has to be the best at doing what he wants to do. It's not a bad idea, just not good for him.
June 11, 2006 4:41:52 PM

950 is better and cheaper than AMD X2 3800+ that have the same performance as 940.

AMD has to cut prizes to compete with Intel know.
June 11, 2006 10:29:04 PM

Looking at MOBO, LGA775, they seem to be more expensive than AMD 939 boards and they're aren't as many of them to choose from at newegg. Still, given the how much less the CPUs are, the savings are still significant.
June 11, 2006 11:42:34 PM

Get the 3800+ or the 930... u can easily overclock both till the specs of the 940 and 4200

flip a coin. :D 
June 11, 2006 11:51:24 PM

Decided on the 930, now trying to figure out the mobo. Want SATA 3.0 and onboard 1394. Don't need SLI. Newegg doesn't seem to have many choices
June 12, 2006 12:18:21 AM

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Check out the CPU Charts, they will answer all your questions. 3800+ is usually better.
CPU Charts
Current AMD dual cores seem better than current Intel dual cores.


I fully agree but with 930 and 940's price right now, either choice is good.
June 12, 2006 2:04:49 AM

Any board recommendations? Do not need SLI and he will not overclock. Stabillity and reliability is most important. Doubt the board will ever be out of the machine and the processor and memory wll never be changed.
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June 12, 2006 2:12:09 AM

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u can always buy a pentium d 805, overclock it to 3.33ghz, nothing extra needed since u dont need to increase voltage, only increase the fsb from 133mhz to 166mhz, then u can buy a conroe compatible mobo


I wouldn't sell an overclocked PC to a customer, unless he/she specifically asks for one. OC'ing can potentially cause probelms in the wrong hands.
June 12, 2006 3:01:36 AM

Make sure and give him a RAID setup while your at, as video tasks are much quicker with.
June 12, 2006 10:28:20 PM

This is the Intel system I put together. Keep in mind this is for video and music editing and no games. He will not overclock it. It is very unlikely he will ever update the mobo, PSU, or memory. He will just turn it on and want it to work. I'm not using RAID because to start he will have a PATA and a SATA drive.

Antec LifeStyle SONATA II $99.99
Intel BOXD945PSNLK Socket T (LGA 775) Intel 945P ATX Intel$112.99
MSI RX1300Pro-TD256E Radeon X1300PRO 256MB $81.99
Intel Pentium D 930 Presler $184.99
Crucial Technology 2GB (2 x 1GB) DDR2 667 (PC2 5300) $239.99
SONY Black 1.44MB 3.5" Internal Floppy $9.99
NEC 3550A DVD -/+ R/RW $35.99

Total $765.93
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