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And Alotofthings carts are a few cents more than $2 each in sets for your
individual printer. I spoke to Joe, the owner, prior to my purchase of
these carts and he told me that the Arrow carts on his ebay store are filled
with Formulabs inks. They are also refillable and his site sells Formulabs
inks in bulk. I have not yet used the Formulabs inks, but there are a few
people posting to this newsgroup that have used them very successfully. I
have had excellent experience with the MIS inks. I have not purchased their
prefilled carts (not filled with MIS inks) but they had assured me that the
ink in the prefilled carts was as good as the MIS ink. Since I have not
personally used their prefilled carts I can not comment on them. I am
looking forward to using the Alotofthings Arrow carts as I have read
excellent reports on the Formulabs inks that they contain. Look through the
posts on this NG for Ron Cohen and Taliesyn for their comments on the
Formulabs inks and Arrow prefilled carts from Alotofthings. (Taliesyn would
prefer to buy from Alotofthings but they will not ship to Canada.) They
have used these products and can report accurately on the products and the
company from which they were purchased. My purchase from Alotofthings
through ebay went smoothly and the delivery was in just a few days. One of
Meesekite's complaints is that this firm only sells through ebay and he
doesn't want to use the ebay Paypal system. So far, that has not been a
problem for me with several Paypal/ebay purchases. My best advice, however,
is to look at the posts of people who have used the products and also check
out Neil Slade's info. In conclusion, I would add that many of the posts
about head clogs are from people using OEM Canon inks! Infrequent use and
inadequate cleaning or printing of "purge" pages accounts for most of the
clogs. Also, as carts are repeatedly refilled they may not work as well and
must be discarded. I have read of techniques for reviving some of these
marginally functional carts, but I have not yet tried them. Probably best
to occasionally buy new OEM carts and start the refill cycle over for any
color cart that starts to malfunction.
"measekite" <measekite@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Burt wrote:
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>>I have had excellent results with MIS bulk ink refilling OEM carts.
>>Others report excellent results buying formulabs inks and also prefilled
>>carts (Arrow brand, not Rainbow) from Alotofthings. Although Meesekite
>>has not used any of these products, he had posted vitriolic comments about
>>Alotofthings because, in his view, their web site isn't professional, an
>>answer to an email was not to his liking, and they only sell thorugh their
>>ebay store.
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> You do have an alternative. Goto 88inkjets.com and you can buy Formulabs
> carts. See their website. See the information there. See how you are
> encouraged to call their TOLL FREE number. You be the judge.
>
>>Read the comments of people who have actually done business with these
>>companies and can tell you from their own experience. Another excellent
>>source is Neil Slade's web site. The link is
>>http://www.neilslade.com/papers/inkjetstuff.html . Read his very long,
>>run-on info for excellent hands-on information and advice. I followed it
>>and am very happy. Meesekite is very bright and knowledgeable in many
>>areas, but he sometimes gives what appears to be informative advice
>>without having the specific experience to do so. Case in point - third
>>party and refill inks.
>>
>
> It is difficult to tell the difference between a FEW good 3rd party inks
> and the host of bad ones. It is also difficult to foresee consistency due
> to the fact that most carry only a reseller's name and these small
> companies usually buy from the lowest bidder; but not all. One thing I do
> know is that many people on this site post problems they have with clogged
> print heads. And the majority of these people are usually using 3rd party
> ink. If more of the 3rd party suppliers sold BRANDED 3rd party ink, for
> example Formulabs, then you could trace the problems down to poor brands.
> I did not use MIS as an example of a BRANDED ink because I do not know if
> they are a mfg/formulator or a name given by inksupply. the Dealer. Burt
> says that MIS has not been a problem for you and I believe him; however
> because of the volume Burt prints, marginal inks may not pose a problem.
> I certainly would like to know if MIS is a mfg/formulator. I would also
> like to know why inksupply does NOT sell MIS in their prefilled carts.
> They sell a noname ink from China.
>
> Be that as it may, if my Printing volume increases I may be tempted to buy
> Formulabs prefilled carts from 88inkjets.com. Currently, they do not sell
> bulk ink for Canon and Epson, only for HP. I am not sure that I would
> want to go through the work of doing that anyway unless by volume would
> justify it. 88inkjets.com can save around 60% to 70% of OEM depending on
> where you buy OEM and the quality you buy.
>
>>"KnumbKnuts" <[nospam[jhansman@pacbell.net> wrote in message
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>>>I've been using 3rd party carts in my Epson for years. No problem for
>>>general printing, but I've not used them yet for photos. I am hopeful I
>>>can
>>>find an affordable source suitable for photos.
>>>
>>>"measekite" <measekite@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>>>>Mudflap wrote:
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>>>>
>>>>>KnumbKnuts wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Can I get some yeas or nays on this printer from owners? Most of the
>>>>>>reviews
>>>>>>are favorable, but I put more stock in comments from day-to-day
>>>>>>users. TIA.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>I liked the 1st one I got so good that I bought 3 more. Fast, Quiet,
>>>>>Easy on ink, and with rebates -cheap. Uses most photo paper and I
>>>>>refill cartridges in spite of what some say with no problem so far in
>>>>>about 13 changes.
>>>>>
>>>>I find it difficult to understand why some people have problems with 3rd
>>>>party ink while others do not. I was in Costco the other day and
>>>>purchase OEM HP and OEM Canon ink. The guys next to me was doing the
>>>>same for his Canon i960. I asked him if he tried 3rd party ink. He did
>>>>and said that it clogged the print head and he had to purchase a new
>>>>one. He forgot the brand/source of what he used. I said brand source
>>>>since other than Formulabs branded manufactured formulated ink, I do not
>>>>know of another manufacturer. Most of the names attached to ink appears
>>>>to come from resellers and dealers who buy brand x ink.
>>>>
>>>
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