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Desperate Help Deciding On My New Computer. $1300 Budge

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June 11, 2006 10:31:03 PM

After doing weeks and weeks of research on computer parts I'm in a bigger rut than when i started. Heres my dilema, I need this computer for college and I start the 21 of August. After reading numerous posts, a lot of people are praising Conroe and how good it is going to be. Well I agree but July 23rd is the release date and I don't think it will give me enough time to wait for reviews and actually be able to order one, plus theres talk that it wont even be ready for the public until september.
This is the setup that I was initially going to use:
AMD Athlon 64 X2 4400+ 2000MHz HT Socket 939 Dual Core Processor – Retail $460.00 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681...)

Western Digital Caviar SE16 250GB 3.5" SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM -$79.99 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1682...)

ASUS A8N-SLI Premium ATX AMD Motherboard – Retail $158.99 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681...

Antec TRUEPOWERII TPII-550 ATX12V 550W Power Supply 115/230 V UL, TUV, CB, FCC CLASS B, CUL – Retail $84.00

OCZ 2GB (2 x 1GB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM Dual Channel Platinum System Memory – Retail $138.99 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1682...)

eVGA Geforce 7600GT 256-P2-N554-AX Video Card – Retail $164.99 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681...)

NEC 16X DVD±R DVD Burner Black IDE/ATAPI Model ND-3550A – OEM $35.99 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1682...)

Antec Performance I P180 Silver Computer Case Retail -$119.00 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681...)

This gives me just under $1300 for all of these parts. I can go over this budget about $100. My problem is that I'm having a really hard time deciding on the X2 4400 or a X2 3800, or the opteron 165 or whatever it is. I really don't want to overclock the chip for all its worth but I also want to push it a little bit. So Any help would be much appreciated.
June 11, 2006 11:08:36 PM

You could swap out the 4400 for the 3800 or the opty and use the difference to upgrade your vid card to a 7900gt.

Personally, I'm going the intel route, with the 805d OC'd and I'll switch it out for a conroe later when I can.
June 11, 2006 11:10:53 PM

Are you looking to upgrade the processor in the future? If not then I think what you have there is good. I don't know if I'd spend $460 on a processor though. I'd either get the 3800 or opteron and overclock them on stock voltages or with a slight bump so that it's stable. You can buy

What are you going to be using the computer for? If for gaming than I'd spend the money saved on a cheaper processor on a better video card.
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June 11, 2006 11:12:49 PM

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You could swap out the 4400 for the 3800 or the opty and use the difference to upgrade your vid card to a 7900gt.

Personally, I'm going the intel route, with the 805d OC'd and I'll switch it out for a conroe later when I can.


What motherboard are you using with the 805? I'd be doing the same thing if I could purchase a 965 mobo right now.
June 12, 2006 12:12:22 AM

alright thanks
June 12, 2006 12:32:16 AM

ok so i decided to go with a opteron 165. Now the only thing i need to do is find out what non sli mother board is the best for this cpu and whats the best manufacturer for the 7900GT.
June 12, 2006 2:35:33 AM

DFI is usually for for OCing an Opteron.

Get the DFI Lasnparty UT nF4 Ultra-D for $124 +$7 shipping. There are cheaper single PCI-e DFI mobos, but this is good for OCing.

For the most part, any 7900GT should be good enough because they are basically coming from the same OEM manufacturer and they just slap their logos on it. There are exceptions though where a company may use a slightly different designm like what Asus sometimes do.

Popular choices are Asus, eVGA, BFG, and XFX. However, there have been reported problems with BFG, eVGA, and XFX because they tend to sell some really overclocked 7900GTs that will cause the GPU to overheat and your system to crash.

The standard core clock speed of the 7900GT is 400MHz, but you'll see them OCed as high as 600MHz. The stock memory speed is usually 1300MHz, but some are clocked as high as 1600MHz. To play it safe get one that is clocked no faster than 500MHz/1400MHz (Core/Memory). Also make sure you have good cooling inside your case as well.
June 12, 2006 3:34:33 AM

Get a 3800+ and use the extra money to go up to a 7900GT. Or do the best of both and add that $100 and get a 4400+ and a 7900GT.
June 12, 2006 3:40:20 AM

you can... get the 975x for mobo, then you can go 805 then conroe

i wouldnt go 939 anymore, its cause amd delcared that they wont keep the 939 line continuing... so theres no more upgrade.

also, never get high priced processors.

get lower ones, they are a LOT cheaper and they work well. esp with overclocking!
June 12, 2006 5:03:41 AM

get an am2 instead of a 939. its no use getting 939.
June 12, 2006 6:00:03 PM

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get an am2 instead of a 939. its no use getting 939.


That is such a shortsighted statement it is not even funny. S939 has a lot of use left in it. If you want to overclock, S939 is a much better deal right now with the Opteron 165/170. AM2 does not offer Opteron CPUs for public consumption. 939 is tested and proven, where AM2 is brand new, with bugs and limited selection like any new release. Six months from now, when 65nm AM2 CPUs are on the market, 939 is then pointless. For now, its not. If you don't plan on upgrading but every 2-3 years, AM2 makes limited sense right now.
June 12, 2006 6:46:00 PM

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Get AM2 or wait for Conroe. X2 3800+ doesn't perform worse than a 4400+. Getting a 7900GT, and a non-SLI mobo would be your best choice.


I agree completely. If your going the AMD route, get a cheaper processor (single core 3800+ $160) and upgrade to the new X2's when they are released and the price drops.
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