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Need Help on the AMD 4200+

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June 12, 2006 2:08:05 AM

HI all, i am not too new on overclocking, but i have a question. I am running on a amd x2 4200+ with a gigabyte board. I could overclock it to 2.4Ghz on a 220 x 11 running smoothly. I am currently running on kingston value ram pc 3200. As i dont know what is the HT ratio i dont know how to set it. others i do is lower the CPU /ram ratio to 2 : 1.5 where if i overclock my processor clock speed to 240, the ram speed will be 360 which it is still ok.
What should i do for the Multiplier? as all thing i have change like the ram timming. Please help on the multiplier for HTT. Thanks.

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June 16, 2006 9:40:44 AM

I recommend you not to overclock the Kingston Value Memory. It's not designed to be overclocked! If you overclock it, they can get damaged really easy. That would be a damn waste!

You should buy some good overclock Value memory like this:
http://www.geilusa.com/proddetail.asp?linenumber=55

It can reach high speeds with some good timings! And just 100 euro's per 1GB! I am having the same, and its running stable at these settings:



I'm shure I am able to get a higher speed, but I want some better cooling before doing that. But for now, I'm happy with this result!

If you're not about to buy new memory, just stay of the memory and its speed, divider and timings!
Just OC your AMD X2 4200+ as fast as possible!
June 16, 2006 9:49:23 AM

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It can reach high speeds with some good timings!

You would be better to drop your RAM down to 200MHz, and set it to 1T command rate. Running at 2T can lower performance more than dropping a few MHz can. Who knows, you may get it to run 1T at higher than 200.
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June 16, 2006 9:53:42 AM

Forgot to mention: One con is, that this memory isn't able to run in 1T ;) 
Not even at 3-8-4-4 @ 200Mhz.

System just don't wants to boot. And I need to reset my motherboard.
But with this settings I'm able to calculate PI @ 1M in just 35 sec.
I'm happy with that!
June 16, 2006 9:57:48 AM

Quote:
Forgot to mention: One con is, that this memory isn't able to run in 1T ;) 
Not even at 3-8-4-4 @ 200Mhz.
That sucks. :( 
June 16, 2006 9:59:27 AM

Yupz. I'm thinking of selling the memory and buying 2GB of OCZ Gold Memory which is able to run 1T at 220Mhz or so.

Or I'm going to buy a second 6800GS for some extra graphical power :twisted:
June 16, 2006 10:35:33 AM

Difference between 1T and 2T is minimal, I wouldn't spend 200 euros or whatever to replace 2T capable RAM with 1T. You'd get what, an extra 0.25 seconds off your super pi 1M time and at most 1 frame more in your latest games.
June 21, 2006 12:01:12 AM

Hi again,
I bought my self the OCZ pc 3200 platinum with 2-3-2-5 timming and 2.8 V. Now I can overclock my pc from 200 to 225 with ram timming 2.5-3-3-5(450Mhz) 2.7V stable running F@h and grid for more then 24hours, running Microsoft ram check with no error. But when ever i push my processor to 230 or even 226 no matter what i do, increase Vcore voltage, changing ram multiplier to 389Mhz at timming 2-3-2-5 or 2.5-3-3-5 and increase Ram voltage to 2.8V.
Any idea to this? as all parts running cool around 44Degree max? I try running F@h and Grid at first it works fine but after i woke up this morning i find the Blue Screen. Overclocking on BIos: CPU FSB 230, CPU multiplier 11x, HTT multiplier (auto).

I am really confused about AMD's overclocking. I been looking all around forums, overclocking help and etc etc but still never manage to Oc my pc fast enough. where on my another PC with Intel Celeron D 2.66, 2x 512Mb value (no brand ) ram i overclocked it to 4Ghz on stock cooling and temp is around 50. Ram running at 400Mhz with timming 3-4-4-7 i think. Any advice please? and Both motherboard is from gigabyte. The intel system running on cheap Gigabyte AGP mb where My AMd is on PCI Nforce4 Ga-k8Nf-9.
June 21, 2006 3:55:51 AM

Ok the problem is from the Nvidia grphic card driver. I am using the graphic card driver from Nvidia.com and using the Leadtek graphic card 6800. the gc driver is forceware 84.21
June 21, 2006 7:54:11 AM

To prevent your motherboard of becomming unstable, you should set HTT Multiplier to x3.
So it won't exceed 800/1000Mhz Font Bus Side Speed.
If it exceeds, your motherboard can become unstable, which can let your computer crash! Mostly of the time you will get the BSOD (Blue Screen Of Death)
June 21, 2006 2:02:34 PM

But my FSB speed did not exceed the 1000. It runs around 930 to 940 accoding to sandra 07. So any performance reduce to the system if i reduce the multiplier to 3x?
June 21, 2006 4:09:08 PM

I'm wondering whether you locked your pci/agp/pciexpress bus. In your bios, check around for the option to set the pci buss at 33MHz or pci express ay 100MHz. Just make sure it aint set to "set to CPU".
You won't lose performance by lowering the hypertransport to 3x. I know it's apples and oranges but remember that the intel fsb at standard is 800MHz (quad pumped 200MHz). The hypertransport runs at a standard of 2000MHz so even at 2x930 you are waaaaay exceeding the bottleneck.
June 21, 2006 4:49:14 PM

thanks for the reply, yup all set to 100mhz for pciE. Still have no idea why is that happening and PSU is antec 480w. Now the error occors. Harddisk have error, where windows system 32 broken and cannot boot. Why is this happening?
thanks for time and reply.
June 27, 2006 6:51:49 AM

well changed a new harddisk and the processor 4200+ running at 220 fsb stable. But it still never can be overclock over 225. Is there any idea what i can do? i have also increase the HT voltage by 0.1V, and many other thing i been trying but still never can overclock the FSB to 226 x 11 multiplier. Any idea? Please all you out there who overclock the AMD processors.. give some idea. thanks.
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