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Starting New Gaming Business and Need some advice please

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June 12, 2006 5:12:08 AM

I am currently a business owner right now and am looking to put in 4 PCs for GAMING in my location. I am thinking of using the Toms Hardware Pentium 805 rig. Do you have any suggestions as far as maybe going a different direction. I am looking to purchase these parts in 2 days or so. Please help with these builds. Let me know if gamers would be happy with these rigs. I am looking to spend $1,000 on each machine and that includes everything from tower to mouse. Below are the specs from what I priced out from NEWEGG. Thanks!

ASUS P5WD2 MB
Pentium D 805
Zalman CNPS9500 Cooler
OCZ Gold 1GB (2x512) DDR2-800 RAM
MSI NX7600GS Geforce 256 MB GDDR2 PCI-E x16
WD Caviar 320 GB HD 7200 rpm w/ 16 MB Buffer
MS Keyboard and Mouse combo
19" 8ms LCD Monitor
Case

All that x4 = $4,000 shipped.
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June 12, 2006 5:36:56 AM

The Pentium D 805 is actually a poor gaming CPU unless you are going to be overclocking it.

The Scythe Ninja is better than the Zalman 9500, it is also cheaper. But it is a larger HSF. Without the fan it is 5.9" tall, with the fan it is about 6.5" tall so you need a large case. It is not compatible with the socket AM2.

You are better off using the AM2 Athlon 64 3500+ for only $123 that includes free shipping. It is basically the same price as the Pentium D 805, but much better performance. Then again it's only a single core CPU.

You can pair it up with the MSI K9N SLI Platinum motherboard for $136 + $9 shipping.
June 12, 2006 5:42:19 AM

Well I plan on overclocking the 805 to 3.6 GHZ. I have done this successfully on a friend of mine's PC I just built for him. That would make it a better CPU than the 3500 correct? Thanks for the quick response.
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June 12, 2006 5:57:57 AM

Yeah, the P D 805 at 3.6GHz should be able to beat the Athlon 3500+. Just make sure that the case provides lots of good airflow.

Since you already built one for your friend, I guess you know what you are doing.

To save a little bit of cash, get the Zalman 9500 from ZipZoomFly for $47. If you want FedEX 2 day delivery then add $2. That's opposed to the $69 shipped over at Newegg.
June 12, 2006 6:31:20 AM

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Well I plan on overclocking the 805 to 3.6 GHZ. I have done this successfully on a friend of mine's PC I just built for him. That would make it a better CPU than the 3500 correct? Thanks for the quick response.


I hope this works well for you - folks I've spoken to that run gameing parlors tell me that they find it a stressful environment for PCs and I'd be suspect of a 3.6GHz 805 in a high-use environment. If it were me setting up 4 rigs as you plan, I'd try to find the extra bucks and go with Conroe if you can wait till late July or put a 930 in. Gameing salon PCs die so young, you don't need to worry so much about future-proofing. I talked to a guy in WA that cycles his units regularly, before they get feeble and sells them at a moderate profit just to keep fresh gear in place.
June 12, 2006 6:31:39 AM

I also think the d805 is a bad choice for a gaming rig, Not saying it wont work for gaming , I have 2 and 1 has been buzzing along at 4+ghz for some time now and the other is all over the place, but with both running in a 15x12 room i get a nice suana action for these cold san diego winters :) 
1. the juice it takes to run an d805 is crazy x4. 2. heat: even at 3.6 under load it puts out some heat x4 , more bills to keep your location cool
+ the most important dual core for gaming is not needed Amd has some good prices for single core.
I would say get maybe an opty 144 or maybe a 3800+ AM2 , are good choices for gaming

just my opinion
June 12, 2006 6:43:39 AM

I would have to disagree with you about that D805. It is a very good chip once overclocked, but the power consumption is immense, and as you'll be running these machines lots, high power consumption = $$$. So my advice would be to get some AM2 x2 3800+ Low power chips. They consume MUCH less power than the D805 and have quite a lot better performance.

Just my 2 cents
June 12, 2006 7:07:10 AM

I would agree with going with the 3500+. Less power, less heat, and no need to OC, so you can save money on an expensive HSF. If the rigs will be for gaming and maybe internet use a dual core proc is more than needed. The single core will give better performance in games for the same price. You can even spend the money you save on not getting the expensive cnp9500 and get a better proc. OCing is a little risky in what these pcs will be used for.
June 12, 2006 7:50:36 AM

Thank you to everyone who responded here. I have a revised system configuration that I would like for you to take a look at and see if this better suits what I want to do.

AMD Athlon 64 3500+ Orleans CPU
Biostar TForce 550 MB
Geforce 7900 GT (470 mhz) 256 MB GDDR3 PCI-E x16
OCZ Gold 1GB (2x512) DDR2-800 RAM
WD Caviar 320 GB HD 7200 rpm w/ 16 MB Buffer
MS Keyboard and Mouse combo
19" 8ms LCD Monitor
Case

All that x4 = $4,021 shipped! Only $20 more! Let me know if its good to go. Thanks!
June 12, 2006 8:41:06 AM

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Yeah, the P D 805 at 3.6GHz should be able to beat the Athlon 3500+.


just dont forget u can overclock Athlon 3500+ as well. i believe pairing with a nice mobo, DFI for example, u can overclock to 2.6GHz which is achievable to most athlon 64 processor.and it consume less power than the 805D too.
but the major drawback is it lack of dual core.anyway, u dont need dual core for games, at least for now.
June 12, 2006 9:32:12 AM

Another thing you might want to consider is a 320 gig HD is most likely a little more than needed, a 120 or 160 should be enough. But then again I don't think the price diff is much, and last I was looking at HDs under 400 gig the 300s and 320s were about the most gig for the buck. Something else to look into.
June 12, 2006 9:50:34 AM

The only cahnge i would make would to change from 1gb(2x512mb) to 2gb(2x1gb) because keeping the programs from accessing the hard drive will improve performance even more. Plus it will provide a longer use than having only 1gb as 4gb is becoming more mainstream. Also you really don't need 320 gb hdd for these systems unless you'll be using them for large downloads of movies or whatnot. Figuring 4gb for OS, and 15gb for each game including updates and downloads(and that'squite generous), you could get 10 games easily on a 160gb drive. CS:S, HL2, COD2, BF2, F.E.A.R., FarCry, Doom3, Quake4, UT2k7, WoW, EQ, EQ2, D&DO.
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