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June 12, 2006 8:45:53 AM

Im wondering is there a posibility to use two mouses with two independent pointers.

Tnx in front! :?

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June 12, 2006 9:46:33 AM

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Im wondering is there a posibility to use two mouses with two independent pointers.

Tnx in front! :?


Just saw this one. id like to answer you.. YES its possible. ive actually tested in myself. though there are some problems with using 2 mice.

Let me explain. a while ago i found a multimouse driver online after researching this matter myself. this ofcourse meant i lost the advanced features of the mice in question.
however. there were two indivudual pointers. even three when i stuck in a third mouse. but the way windows is coded means that you still only have focus in one appklication. so you cant for example have two users both using seperate programs. since any mouse click will change the windows focus to the location of the clicked mouse. this inactivating the other window. im not sure if this can be fixed with a driver but i doubt it.
i also noticed that while the pointers themselves where seperate. the effect of the mouse click was not. clicking and holding down the mouse button would effect both mice.

well thats all i really know from my experience. i myself am very interested in development on this front. multipointer systems could be very sueful when OS goes 3d. :) . imagine 3d mice? orpperhaps some minority report style HID's :)  all fun. and we actually have the tech to do it. just not the software to make use of it.

/Markus
June 12, 2006 9:51:07 AM

i don't think you can have two mouse pointers although you can definitely have two mice. And also, just curious, but what application could possibly demand the use of two mouse poiniters. It would be like those video games where all controllers are allowed to control menu selections!!

btw the plural of mouse is mice, not mouses :wink:
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June 12, 2006 10:56:41 AM

afraid you are wrong my friend :p 

there seems to be littele progress sicne i last checked but here are the webpages a managed to dig up

first the MultiMice Discussion thread.. worth a read if your interested
http://www.michaelbuffington.com/archives/2003/07/multi...

second the CPN mouse driver. 2 or more mice slightly buggy and way outta date.. Source code exists for those who wanna have a play i think
http://cpnmouse.sourceforge.net/

thats sourceforge so at that state the driver is opensource. :) .
June 12, 2006 11:43:09 AM

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i don't think you can have two mouse pointers although you can definitely have two mice. And also, just curious, but what application could possibly demand the use of two mouse poiniters. It would be like those video games where all controllers are allowed to control menu selections!!

btw the plural of mouse is mice, not mouses :wink:


I was thinking when U have two monitors so on one you play game and on another browse through folders, like two pc's :) 

"mices" TNX for that!
June 12, 2006 11:44:01 AM

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afraid you are wrong my friend :p 

there seems to be littele progress sicne i last checked but here are the webpages a managed to dig up

first the MultiMice Discussion thread.. worth a read if your interested
http://www.michaelbuffington.com/archives/2003/07/multi...

second the CPN mouse driver. 2 or more mice slightly buggy and way outta date.. Source code exists for those who wanna have a play i think
http://cpnmouse.sourceforge.net/

thats sourceforge so at that state the driver is opensource. :) .


Tnx for the info!
I'm right on it :wink:
June 12, 2006 12:02:33 PM

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"mices" TNX for that!


No. It's "mice." Repeat after me. MMMMMMMM. IIIIIIIIII. CCCCCCCC.EEEEEEEEE. Mice.

There ya go.
June 12, 2006 1:04:52 PM

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i don't think you can have two mouse pointers although you can definitely have two mice. And also, just curious, but what application could possibly demand the use of two mouse poiniters. It would be like those video games where all controllers are allowed to control menu selections!!

btw the plural of mouse is mice, not mouses :wink:


I was thinking when U have two monitors so on one you play game and on another browse through folders, like two pc's :) 

"mices" TNX for that!

It would be possible if it wasn't for the way windows works, like Star said, Windows only allows you to have 1 application as your primatry focus at the moment. If there were a way to change this then you might beable to get that working, but I haven't heard of a workaround.
June 12, 2006 1:17:29 PM

MICE.
Is that right spelling? :lol: 
June 12, 2006 1:58:39 PM

you can have 2 ppl logged in to one machine... so if the hardware was set to actually have 2 seperate connections w/ 2 individual display and keyboard connections then theoretically it could work.

Of course I am talking wholly seperated connections. Currently if you have 2 on one machine it is still just one, as others have pointed out regardless of which mouse you use, only one window or app can be used at a time.

What I am saying here is that yes, windows has mult-user/multi-connection code but it is directly dependent on the type of hardware. With the way hardware is designed currently, you would need two motherboards in your PC. One is the main system, and one would be logged in "remotely" so that you could do what you are talking about. Hardware and code changes need to happen before you can do it.
June 12, 2006 7:03:32 PM

If you want 2 people using 1 PC at the same time with 2 mice, 2 keyboards, and 2 monitors, Jetway had something about a year ago called Magic Twin that allowed that:

http://www.jetwaycomputer.com/magictwin_barebone.html

It had a dual-output vidcard that could drive 2 monitors separately, and the extra keyboard and mouse plugged into a USB dongle.

Don't know how well it worked, though. Supposedly each user got an individual Windows desktop presented to them. They haven't carried it into their new products, so I guess it was crap or nobody was interested in it.

Anybody out there tried it? It looked interesting.

I do recall a few years ago some company had an add-in card called BuddyPC (I think) that attempted the same thing.
June 12, 2006 7:52:25 PM

Citrix presents sessions to each user connected to the host machine. I don't think that's what you want though. This is an enterprise-style solution that is expensive, has hefty requirements, and has all sorts of configuration and management bells and whistles.
I've got two pointing devices on my PC. I use a Logitech G5 most of the time, but in Unreal Tournament I prefer to use a MS Trackball Explorer. I know, I know, I should get used to the mouse, but I haven't yet, and movement is easier with the trackball.
I just use whichever one I want, but there are not two separate pointers. As has been pointed out, Windows maintains a single focus.
June 13, 2006 6:14:11 AM

Now while "they" are talking about making multicore procs it will be interesting
that you use some procs like individual pc's with extra cards for mice and keyboards,and monitors.

Imagine lan party on one pc :p 
Stupid though but interesting.
Everyone asks themselves why do I f*u*c... need soo many procs.
This can be interesting solution to use them all.
June 13, 2006 9:41:30 AM

I stand corrected! :oops: 

thanks StarGazer79
June 15, 2006 5:56:30 PM

I'm still confused why you want two seperate pointers? Just curious. :) 
June 17, 2006 9:29:07 PM

I wanna a posibility to control everest on another monitor when i play some game and similiar things.
June 17, 2006 10:13:59 PM

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I wanna a posibility to control everest on another monitor when i play some game and similiar things.


Buy or put together another PC.....
June 17, 2006 10:23:23 PM

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If you want 2 people using 1 PC at the same time with 2 mice, 2 keyboards, and 2 monitors, Jetway had something about a year ago called Magic Twin that allowed that:

http://www.jetwaycomputer.com/magictwin_barebone.html

It had a dual-output vidcard that could drive 2 monitors separately, and the extra keyboard and mouse plugged into a USB dongle.

Don't know how well it worked, though. Supposedly each user got an individual Windows desktop presented to them. They haven't carried it into their new products, so I guess it was crap or nobody was interested in it.

Anybody out there tried it? It looked interesting.

I do recall a few years ago some company had an add-in card called BuddyPC (I think) that attempted the same thing.


Good God they have the crappiest website I have ever seen. No wait . . . well 4th worst COMMERCIAL website I've seen.
June 17, 2006 10:31:56 PM

Two monitors, a dual core CPU, some software to somehow separate and allow it two mice. Now all I need is two brains to understand it and two sets of eyes to watch it. I think I'm getting dizzy thinking about it.
June 17, 2006 10:38:19 PM

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If you want 2 people using 1 PC at the same time with 2 mice, 2 keyboards, and 2 monitors, Jetway had something about a year ago called Magic Twin that allowed that:

http://www.jetwaycomputer.com/magictwin_barebone.html

It had a dual-output vidcard that could drive 2 monitors separately, and the extra keyboard and mouse plugged into a USB dongle.

Don't know how well it worked, though. Supposedly each user got an individual Windows desktop presented to them. They haven't carried it into their new products, so I guess it was crap or nobody was interested in it.

Anybody out there tried it? It looked interesting.

I do recall a few years ago some company had an add-in card called BuddyPC (I think) that attempted the same thing.


Good God they have the crappiest website I have ever seen. No wait . . . well 4th worst COMMERCIAL website I've seen.

I do agree, it's one of the crappiest website I've ever seen, too. I've never seen it in action, just an old brain cell fired when the question was asked. Actually, I had seen it on Newegg, but the SFF boxes with that technology are too old to appear on Newegg so I had to go looking on the mfgr's website for a link.

I guess it didn't work very well since they're not making it anymore.
June 17, 2006 10:40:30 PM

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Two monitors, a dual core CPU, some software to somehow separate and allow it two mice. Now all I need is two brains to understand it and two sets of eyes to watch it. I think I'm getting dizzy thinking about it.


Seems like way too much work to accomplish what a 2nd PC would do. I don't see any advantage to doing it on one PC, other than cost if you don't have old/extra hardware lying around.
June 18, 2006 11:31:12 AM

Why would it be simple when it can be complicated.
July 22, 2007 1:26:33 AM

ive been looking into the same thing for awhile now, without any luck. my goal is to be able to run 2 games at the same time, so a friend and i can both play(it'd also be great for Pocket Tanks tournaments lol). anyways, is doing this through Linux a possibility? i know windows has its limitations when trying to configure it, but with Linux the options seem limitless...
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June 18, 2010 2:05:29 PM

yea because one mouse two mice, mices is double up, then you would have 4 mice (joke)
June 18, 2010 5:05:27 PM

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