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A 4.1 GHz Dual Core at $130 - Can it be True? F*CK no

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June 12, 2006 7:46:48 PM

Well, i got my system last month;

Pentium D 805 2.6ghz

ASUS PW5WD2 Premium

2 GB DDR-2 RAM 667

(the rest isn't important)

I had the CPU overclocked at 3.6ghz for about 2 weeks with watercooling and 4 fans. The temps were 50C idle and the highest i could get was 58C on full load for 14 hours rendering. I left it on idle last night and when I woke up in the morning my computer was shut off. I press power, nope, nothing turns on. I took it into the place where I bought it and told me the motherboard (which is top of the line) had fried from overclocking, and they would not cover it in the warranty.

Long story short, 4.1ghz is pure bullshit. Maybe you can get it for a couple of days, but your PC will fry in under a month.

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June 12, 2006 8:40:41 PM

So it didn't work for you... Who guaranteed you it would? Every chip is different!

My D805 is now running 3,4Ghz @ stockvoltage with a cnps7700cu @lowest fanspeed. Unfortunatly my asrock 775i65PE cant raise the vcore... So I got lucky more or less...
June 12, 2006 8:44:39 PM

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...I took it into the place where I bought it and told me the motherboard (which is top of the line) had fried from overclocking, and they would not cover it in the warranty.

Well, duh.

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Long story short, 4.1ghz is pure bullshit. Maybe you can get it for a couple of days, but your PC will fry in under a month.

You choose to ignore disclaimers, you roll the dice.
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June 12, 2006 9:59:01 PM

how much vcore did u put into it? wow fried.. thats sad, were u using a crappy psu?
June 12, 2006 10:07:55 PM

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how much vcore did u put into it? wow fried.. thats sad, were u using a crappy psu?


I didn't turn up the Vcore at all. My PSU was a 480 watt Thermaltake.

Now I have to pay 450 dollars for a new motherboard and a better CPU so I don't have to overclock it.
June 12, 2006 10:16:32 PM

well i wouldn't be too surprised since the 8xx werent designed to go that high and the 805 being a budget chip was obviously a factor. too bad it took your mobo out, the cpu frying wouldve been more favourable/ expected. But your case is similar to the Conroe testing at XS where a mobo fried with the conroe @ near 5Ghz
June 14, 2006 12:30:00 PM

I dont see how your motherboard could have blown becuase its not even running near its normal opperating specs with the chip sitting at 3.6. Whats that a 180FSB setting. Maybe you sprung a leak. Dont blame everything on the chip.

And your TEMPS WTF?!? 50 idle and 60 load. That is not possible when running watercooling. Did you even bother to check everything before running the system?

Check my specs in my sig, that rig hase been running for 2 months, and its been to lans and back and I have not had one day of trouble. you temps should be more like mine, 35 idle and 45 load.
June 15, 2006 10:26:32 PM

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I dont see how your motherboard could have blown becuase its not even running near its normal opperating specs with the chip sitting at 3.6. Whats that a 180FSB setting. Maybe you sprung a leak. Dont blame everything on the chip.

And your TEMPS WTF?!? 50 idle and 60 load. That is not possible when running watercooling. Did you even bother to check everything before running the system?

Check my specs in my sig, that rig hase been running for 2 months, and its been to lans and back and I have not had one day of trouble. you temps should be more like mine, 35 idle and 45 load.


A computer company set up the watercooling for me. I have no way to prove that the motherboard fried for another reason than overclocking, so I have to pay no matter what.

What's weird is when I brought it in they took the watercooling system out because "It wasn't working". I asked them if the watercooling could have fried the board but they denied it saying that the burn was on the other side of the motherboard.
June 15, 2006 11:11:26 PM

This sounds like a defective mobo to me. You where no near the max temps for the cpu.
June 15, 2006 11:34:00 PM

Well, since you didn't inspect the MB and CPU yourself, that may have answered some things you said they said were weird.

I'd say that it was very possible the pump failed, the CPU overheated and tripped the thermo shut down.

Since you said they mentioned the bottom of the board was burned on the underside.

Kinda wonder that the chip looked like.

I'm guessing this is a similar case to this thread:

When CPU Coolers Fail

The article is Inquire based, but I could see this happening, plus there were pics on how bad the 840 PD chip was burned, and discription of how the CPU was fused to the MB pins on the socket, since the water pump failed.
June 15, 2006 11:44:37 PM

i have a feeling that the company that you're dealing with has shady practises.
June 16, 2006 12:24:30 AM

You should have check the M.B and the water cooling system yourself before you took it back where u bought it from. Of course they are going to blame everything on you, they won't say that it's a leak from the connections or some other fault. Also if there was a slight leak from any of the connections which cause a water drop on the M.B, it will cause a short circuit which burn out some component on the M.B. But it does not necessary mean that will will burn out stuff on the top side of the M.B, it could have easily burnt out the bottom side of the M.B then the power supply shut off to prevent further damage to the board. What i want to say is M.B doesn't necessary burn out at the location of the water drop, if there is one. You have to take into consideration where the water drop occured and how the circuit is link at that point and what componets are linked through at point, then which components are more vulnerable to get fried first. Which can be at the bottom of the M.B or the top. Kind of confusing, don't know if u get this.
June 17, 2006 2:26:45 PM

The problem is if I open the computer case it voids my warranty. I should have opened it anyways though, they wouldn't know the difference.

If a motherboard is fried, how the hell can they tell you overclocked? Isn't it written in the BIOS which is on the motherboard?
June 18, 2006 5:47:17 PM

Yes, But they would have had to started the system up to see that. Which means either its a lie they told you its fried and they want to squeeze more money out of you or they found a way to take the bios chip of the board and stick it on another one.
June 18, 2006 6:40:26 PM

Hope you aren't planning on having them build you another one. Those clowns sound VERY shady to me..

First off, your temps, although initially not too high for the CPU was way too high for water cooling. Your overclock wasn't that high, unless you cranked the voltage too much. A failed pump or poorly mounted CPU cooler sounds likely to me.

Opening the case should in no way void your warranty. How are you going to add ram, HD, or even clean your fans?
June 18, 2006 7:02:52 PM

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The problem is if I open the computer case it voids my warranty. I should have opened it anyways though, they wouldn't know the difference.

If a motherboard is fried, how the hell can they tell you overclocked? Isn't it written in the BIOS which is on the motherboard?



what store sells that combo with watercooling? why would they include watercooling?
you say you did not turn up the voltage but what was it set at by the "store" anything over 1.4v and you can put it back on the store
Pentium D 805 2.6ghz
ASUS PW5WD2 Premium
2 GB DDR-2 RAM 667

as far as the temps with watercooling if they use something like the bigwater se i can see temps being that high.

If you live in the US opening up your system will in no way void your system warranty. its some 1970's law about service on products.
And if you want to be 100% sure you can have another store look your system over and they can open up your system its under the same law.
June 18, 2006 9:30:07 PM

Did you ever run the ASUS PC Probe before it went down?

PC Probe would have told you the Motherboard Temp.

I would have to agree with other, it does sound more like the Cooling, not the OC.

My temps are nowhere near yours and I am on 3.8GHz with AIR not water.

Did you tell the store that you overclocked it or are they the ones that did it for you?

I would be getting the gear back and taking it to someone else.

So these guys are saying that not only is your MOBO not working, but neither is the water cooler. The OC you were running is mild for this motherboard. 3.6GHz would not have needed any volt adjustments at all to work. Mined you, 3.6GHz really doesn't need water cooler either. Lots of people have this speed running on the stock cooler.

So I think it's down too the Cooler or the PSU.
June 19, 2006 12:43:59 AM

I agree with basically everything above. It's a joke that you "fried" your mobo at 3.6. Mine has been rocking out at 4.0 for a long time now with ZERO i repeat ZERO problems. I am using air cooling and I find something wrong with your temps since mine arent even that high and I am using an Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro (Great for the price but not top of the line) with AS5. PS. I've been 4.0 stable since the day I put the PC together on a $69 mobo so something is fishy and you might want to look into the water cooling and power supply before you believe that your mobo was toasted by your overclock.
June 20, 2006 1:54:03 AM

Well as much as I would like to get my money back assuming it's the water cooling that fried it, but what can I really do? I don't think theres any way I can prove that the pump failed, or it wasn't mounted right.

And I think that i CAN open the case, but they said I can't actually move the watercooling. But since it's mounted to the motherboard, that does me no good.
June 20, 2006 1:57:09 AM

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Well as much as I would like to get my money back assuming it's the water cooling that fried it, but what can I really do? I don't think theres any way I can prove that the pump failed, or it wasn't mounted right.

And I think that i CAN open the case, but they said I can't actually move the watercooling. But since it's mounted to the motherboard, that does me no good.


Am I reading your posts right;

You purchased a system from one supplier and then had a different supplier put in the water cooler, is that correct?


I would try and get an independent assessment from another PC Builder.
June 20, 2006 3:07:05 AM

Hey guys... I'm looking to do something like this post is talking about and I have a few questions.

I am buying this motherboard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681...

because I want to buy a Pentium D 805 now and upgrade to a Conroe when they come out.

I also want DDR2 800MHz memory... so my question is

I'm not looking to get the highest overclock, I'd be happy with 3.6/3.8. But do I have to overclock to 4.0GHz to use 800MHz RAM?

If so, should I just do it and get the Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro that tool_462 was talking about? I'd also be willing to buy a cheap water cooling system that I can also use with my Conroe when I get it to overclock that. If you guys think that is the best thing to do, can I have some water cooling system recommendations? speedy replies are desired as I would like to purchase some stuff tonight due to sales! Thanks :) 
June 20, 2006 6:23:18 AM

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A computer company set up the watercooling for me. I have no way to prove that the motherboard fried for another reason than overclocking, so I have to pay no matter what.

What's weird is when I brought it in they took the watercooling system out because "It wasn't working". I asked them if the watercooling could have fried the board but they denied it saying that the burn was on the other side of the motherboard.


Since they ADMITTED that the watercooling wans't working then whomever installed it is responsible for its failure and all the consequences of that (overheating of the CPU and other components). Even w/o overclocking the CPU and motherboard were going to fry because of the watercooling failure!

What was the brand name for the watercooler (so i won't use it!) ?
June 21, 2006 3:21:36 AM

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If so, should I just do it and get the Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro that tool_462 was talking about?


ive heard of an OC p4 running at 19c below the refernce fan with the freezer pro.


also a does nt the thermal throttling shut down the netburst when a p4 nears 80c?
June 23, 2006 3:23:18 AM

Below is the system I just built last night. I have it OC'd to just over 3.2 with stock voltage. I'm able to run Battlefield 2 at all the highest settings and wow is it sweet! According to Asus utilities my mobo is running around 37 degrees celcius. CPU runs between 34 and 39 under load. Big test for me was running BF2 for 4 hours yesterday with no problems at all. Temps well within range. I think with the games I have I am sticking here being it is running flawlessly with all settings on high. Overall I am higly impressed with this venture onto the Intel side. I've OC'd and owned AMD stuff for years and couldn't pass this up. Anyway, sorry for your misfortunes. Sounds like something went horribly wrong with those temperatures. I keep my house around 70-73 degrees farenheight. Initial build problems were OS crashes during install. I removed one of my sticks of ram and the install went smooth. Once up I checked the bios and it was WAY outdated. Updated the bios and reinstalled the stick and away I went.

Peace!

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June 23, 2006 3:46:50 AM

Mine runs fine with the DDR2 800MHz. You are just underclocking the memory if you are not reaching the rated speed. At least that is the way it was described to me in the past. I could be wrong. It doesn't hurt anything and will future proof you when Conroe comes out.


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Hey guys... I'm looking to do something like this post is talking about and I have a few questions.

I am buying this motherboard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681...

because I want to buy a Pentium D 805 now and upgrade to a Conroe when they come out.

I also want DDR2 800MHz memory... so my question is

I'm not looking to get the highest overclock, I'd be happy with 3.6/3.8. But do I have to overclock to 4.0GHz to use 800MHz RAM?

If so, should I just do it and get the Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro that tool_462 was talking about? I'd also be willing to buy a cheap water cooling system that I can also use with my Conroe when I get it to overclock that. If you guys think that is the best thing to do, can I have some water cooling system recommendations? speedy replies are desired as I would like to purchase some stuff tonight due to sales! Thanks :) 
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