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June 13, 2006 1:07:15 PM

OK, i just about bought bought a dell xps 700 last night when i stumbled across this site and starting reading the threads. After i read the threads for about 2-3 hours i was thinking why dont i build my own damn system.

I want a pretty high end system that i can upgrade in the future, It will be a gaming - video editing rig. What are good components?

I want to spend no more than $3000 on it, can i build a decent system for that? Thanks in advance!!

Jeff

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June 13, 2006 2:42:11 PM

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OK, i just about bought bought a dell xps 700 last night when i stumbled across this site and starting reading the threads. After i read the threads for about 2-3 hours i was thinking why dont i build my own damn system.

I want a pretty high end system that i can upgrade in the future, It will be a gaming - video editing rig. What are good components?

I want to spend no more than $3000 on it, can i build a decent system for that? Thanks in advance!!

Jeff


Well, there is a question to be asked. Can you wait for a month for Conroe? If yes, stop reading and check back after July 23rd. If no, read on!

Right now, AMD kicks Intel around in almost every benchmark there is, so the best idea if you do not wish to wait is to go AM2. Below is a sample system for you.


AMD AM2 4200+ $369.00

Corsair XMS2 2GB DDR2-800 CLS3- $453.00

WD Raptor 74GB (OS Drive)- $159 + $30 MIR

WD SE16 320GB SATAII w/ 16MB cache (Storage Drive)- $119.99

Asus AM2 NForce 590 Motherboard- $229.00

eVGA 7950GX2 (2 GTXs on one card)- $579.00

Antec P180 Case- $124.99

Antec Truepower II 550W PSU- $89.99

BenQ 16X DVD burner- $39.99

Nero 7- $64.00

Logitech G5 Laser Gaming Mouse- $45

Logitech Keyboard- $15 (really up to you here)

Windows XP Pro OEM w/ SP2- $135.00

Dell 20.1 Ultrasharp Widescreen- $390.15

Total: 2788.89 + shipping (and maybe tax from Dell)

The reason I went with only a 4200+ AM2 is because there will be dual core 65nm CPUs coming out in December and quad cores early next year. Both are going to improve performance quite a bit, and will both drop right into AM2. The 4200+ is a good CPU in its own right however.
June 13, 2006 3:34:21 PM

You can build a very nice system for $3000, just like shadowduck said. I agree with shadowduck; you should wait for Conroe because when it comes out, AMD will cut the prices of their dual-core CPUs in half.
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June 13, 2006 4:21:06 PM

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I want to spend no more than $3000 on it, can i build a decent system for that? Thanks in advance!!


You can build a killer system for 3K. Just to give you a different point of view than Shadowduck, I'd recommend shopping around a while. Seriously, take the time to configure a 939 rig, an AM2 and a Conroe. Search out all of the benchmarks you can find. Try to get out and put your hands on some systems in stores if you can to see how real the differences are to you. With Conroe just 5 or 6 weeks away, it's a good time to be patient.

You could also shop part of the components first, say monitor, keyboard, mouse, speakers, graphics card, HDs and optical drive. For 3K, you can afford to get a good monitor, like a 20 or 21" 1600x1200. Go find a store and lay eyes on them. People have very different reactions to monitors, mouse and keyboards. For a high end PC, I can only recommend the X1900XT. You can get the Gigabyte for $430, the HIS for $420, etc. And maybe shop power supplies. They are a very changing breed these days and 12V current demands only look to be increasing more in the future. I've been fiddling with a bunch of the good ones lately and recommend the mushkin 650. It has four 20A 12V rails that automatically bridge to meet high demand. Not cheap but worth it for a high end rig.

Anyway, if you take that sequential approach and work your way through items other than mobo, CPU and RAM, before you know it, Conroe will be out and you can make that choice.
June 13, 2006 4:58:14 PM

Put it this way... You can build a 4x better system then that XPS for 3 grand. plus you will be able to upgrade the system you build compared to being SOL with a manufactured computer.
June 13, 2006 5:15:57 PM

3k? You can build a hella nice system for half that if you go mid-range on a few items and shop around. While all those components listed are nice, just going a step below some of them will drastically cut the cost and I doubt you'll mind the very small difference.
June 13, 2006 6:18:10 PM

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3k? You can build a hella nice system for half that if you go mid-range on a few items and shop around. While all those components listed are nice, just going a step below some of them will drastically cut the cost and I doubt you'll mind the very small difference.


Be specific.
June 13, 2006 7:09:35 PM

For instance

AM2 Athlon64 X2 3800+ (July 24) $169 (save $200)

OCZ Gold 1GB DDR2-800 (2x) $236 (save $217)

SAPPHIRE Radeon X1800XT $239 (save $340)

Thermaltake matrix VD2000BNS $50 (save $75)

AG Neovo AGM 19" 4ms Widescreen $223 (save $167)

That right there saves $1000 from the other list. More money could be saved in the mobo and hard drives (save $200). Not sure we need to include the software... he probably already has it (save $190). $45 mouse? Maybe, maybe not. Get a cheaper one :twisted: Well maybe I'm just picking nits at the end, but there is plenty of money to be saved here and I doubt he's going to take a performance hit that is worth more to him than the amount saved.
June 13, 2006 8:12:43 PM

Yeah you can save money. The only reason the RAM is so pricey is its CLS3 in DDR2-800 which is very rare and hard to find. So you pay a lot for it ;) .
June 14, 2006 12:33:16 AM

Thanks for such a good reply and for being so specific. It looks by what i have been reading that i really should wait for the conroe to come out. As far as monitors go i am looking at the dell 30" .. Is that a ok monitor? or should i step it down to a 24"? I am going to do some more searching on products that you guys have listed here and see what i can come up with and run it by you agian.

Thanks for all the info. It looks like i will be saving money and building a better rig with a litlle bit of sweat, four lettter words and some time.

Jeff
June 14, 2006 3:52:02 AM

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Yeah you can save money. The only reason the RAM is so pricey is its CLS3 in DDR2-800 which is very rare and hard to find. So you pay a lot for it ;) .


And if i were to build an AM2 rig, I'd think good DDR2 would be worth the investment. In fact, I'd phone up my friends at mushkin and see if they had any killer sticks and be prepared to play dearly. Likewise, a $3000 gameing rig should have an excellent GPU, like the 1900XT.
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