Need good 5.1 speaker reccommendation plz

So, my parents being the generous people they are, after some persuasion will pay for new speakers for me (because i passed exams) Now the old ones are ok, Altec Lansing 251 if that means anything to anyone, its the only number i could find on emm. But the problem with them is i cant put the "wave" or "MIDI synth" settings from the bottom left tray icon up more than half way, otherwise the artillery in bf2 will make them crackle a lot, and some music will also have the same effect. Also these speakers cant be put up to full volume as at that level the sound of whatever i was listening to becomes unrecogniseable.

So... what i need:

- 5.1 or better speaker system, i think 7.1 is a bit too much but hey i dont mind an extra 2 speakers
- Loud whilest maintaining quality is a priority
- Digital? Dunno, but digitals more modern than analog so i guess my new ones should be digital
- Full volume from ALL speakers, i forgot to mention my current ones back-left and back-right only put out about 1/3 of the sound that the main two put out, there is no setting that will alleviate this, its simply the way they are.
- Durable, its not a requirement.... but it would be nice since the ones i have are pretty hardy, they can and do survive getting dropped.

This will be paired up with an Audigy 2 ZS soundcard, my budget is around £140, well thats the parents budget i can stretch it a bit myself. I could go higher if needed, im not an audiophile though i just like listening to really loud music with bass 80's dance and pop mainly, with some club stuff.

How are the following?

Logitech Z5450
Logitech Z5500
Logitech Z5400
Creative GigaWorks 5.1 G500
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  1. I've been using the Logitech Z5500 for sometime now and they are top notch. More power then almost anyone could ever need for a computer system. Plus they have multiple inputs so if you wanted you could hook it up to your TV, DVD player or whatever you have that ability. It has a ton of bass, clear highs and good midrange.

    I'm not completely sure what the price is in the UK for these but you can often find these on sale for quite cheap at retailers (sometimes around $299 CDN) so I would think that you could probably find the same out there.

    I can't comment on the other speaker sets but I'm sure that any one of them would fulfill what you're looking for. But your best bet is to go to a store and try out the ones you're looking at and see what they sound like.

    GL on finding a set you like.

    TH
  2. Quote:
    I've been using the Logitech Z5500 for sometime now and they are top notch. More power then almost anyone could ever need for a computer system. Plus they have multiple inputs so if you wanted you could hook it up to your TV, DVD player or whatever you have that ability. It has a ton of bass, clear highs and good midrange.


    I second that. Also the Z-5500 are the ONLY speakers with a built in digital decoder. The only durability issue I can see is when I had Z-5300s the 'legs' on the speaker stand felt flimsy and one did break from falling. The Z-5500s look like they use the same plastic and simliar speaker stand design, however the plastic is much thicker and wider. You will NOT be dissapointed with the Z-5500s. I promise you that.
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    Heh, i came over here because i couldnt find the "sound" forum on anandtech, useful post though thanks.

    Ive decided tha Z5500's would be great for me, a 27kg sub sounds awsome, and i read a review saying the reviewers deaf neighbour complained about the noise hahaha. Primarily because pictures were falling off the walls etc, not that she found she could hear anything.
  4. Quote:
    I've been using the Logitech Z5500 for sometime now and they are top notch. More power then almost anyone could ever need for a computer system. Plus they have multiple inputs so if you wanted you could hook it up to your TV, DVD player or whatever you have that ability. It has a ton of bass, clear highs and good midrange.

    I'm not completely sure what the price is in the UK for these but you can often find these on sale for quite cheap at retailers (sometimes around $299 CDN) so I would think that you could probably find the same out there.

    I can't comment on the other speaker sets but I'm sure that any one of them would fulfill what you're looking for. But your best bet is to go to a store and try out the ones you're looking at and see what they sound like.

    GL on finding a set you like.

    TH


    I am from the UK and I went for the most mad choice to buy a set of speakers. I looked on http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/5_1_Speakers.html
    I saw the most powerful speakers at 1000Watt and thought, hell arent they so cool.

    I chose 5.1 instead of 7.1 for a few reasons
    nothing really supports true 7.1 surround (no DVDs I have seen or games or anything for that matter, tell me if something does)
    When you play 5.1 sound it just splits it up anyway
    Too many speakers, not enough room.

    I couldnt agree more with AC3STAR and when he says its got tons of bass. He aint lying. I connected it up to the Xbox360 with an optical lead and played War of the Worlds through it at max volume.
    Something everyone has go to hear. The sound doesnt even distort, it vibrated my little room so much it felt like the Strider was actually outside thumping on the ground.

    Basically this system wont fail to impress.

    It supports DTS THX and 5.1 Dolby digital , I dont know of any others (also 24 bit sound).
    The connections AC3 was on about are the following

    1 x Optical Digital connection (makes major difference to sounf quality over every other connection I have tried)
    1 x Coaxial Digital in (similar to optical but not as cool)
    1 x Direct input (3 connections for the surround sound effect on a sound card) - this is where you would plug in your MP3 player and most audio devices. This is the only connection that a cable is supplied for.

    There are different modes for the sounds too

    When you have direct input you can choose
    6 ch direct (for sound card output)
    Stereo (only uses two front speakers and sub woofer for bass)
    Stereo x 2 (same as stereo except duplicates front right and left with rear left and right)
    Pro logic movie mode (some how suits movies)
    Pro logic music mode (definately suits music)

    When you connect with optical connection the mode is automatically selected


    I am back and I had my appendix taken out so its been like a week since I last saw this page.

    I guy further down is buying them because he cant find any disadvantages with them.
    Sound wise I cant either BUT here it comes
    :arrow: Physically the woofer is massive (bigger than my dads home cinema system for living room) making it weigh a ton
    :arrow: Along side that you need to keep it 2 foot away from any electrical devices that may be damaged to such a powerful magnet
    and lastly
    :arrow: You need to have 6 inch clearence all around the woofer because it gets too hot (6 inches for the back at least)

    BUT other than that they are excellent, so if you have a massive room or would re-arrange your room to suit these babys, its simple
    buy them right now, run your little hand over the address bar and go to a site and buy them, they wont dissappoint
    unless one of those three points seem to be a problem :?
  5. I was always tought that your amp is just about doing everything it can really do (and have reserve for peak) with the volume @ 1/2. That may have changed with PC speakers?? Yes, it'll get louder than that but you're stress'n the amp which is one of the reason's you're getting distortion at high volumes.
    Also, take care with the bass/treble/EQ...if you've got the low frequencies turned up you're pushing your amp much harder than you might think when you turn it up.

    In Windows, turn your main up 4/5 of the way at max, unless you have a really fine audio sound card that's not going to distort. This should send more than enough signal to your speakers...then work the volume from the speakers.

    The Logitiech 5K series seemingly have more power than one could possibly want which means they're under less stress when you do crank it up a bit.

    This is all kinda common sense and I doubt I'm telling you anything you don't know...it just go me thinking when you said you were getting distortion @ high volumes....
  6. I can tell you from my own experaince that the Z-5500 is absolutly jaw-dropping!! I too have the Adulogy-Z card and its a match from audio heaven!
  7. Z-5500 wipes the floor with the competition :D
    They are pretty cheap as well.

    Btw, i have both the coaxial and 6 channel direct connected up. For normal music i found 6 channel direct best as my audigy 2 zs upmixed the signal to all speakers, which the coaxial doesn't unless you apply one of the effects on the control panel.

    The sound quality is exactly the same on analog(6 ch direct) and digital(coax).
  8. Z-5500. I've had mine for about two years now and I run everything through them. You shouldn't need anymore than 5.1 as it gets the same point across in gaming and there are no movies (that I know of) that are mixed for any more channels than that.

    I use the ol' audigy 2 plat and it works great for me. My room mates don't like it, but that's there prob :D !
  9. I was going to suggest the Logitech z-5300/5500, but other have betten me to it. If your going to put these in your room, I do suggest the 5300. Puts out less watts yes, but it will still have the power to make things go bump. (would probably make your parents happy too...) They are still THX certified, and still sound as great as the 5500. Less power, less imputs, and I believe a few other options disapear, but still a very good set. (not the best, but considering price/performance, probably the best.)
  10. I own a Logitech Z-5300 system and it is awesome. I've had it for about a year and bought it for $120 or so on newegg at the time. They are quality speakers and the bass is deep. As far as speakers go I think that they are the best bang for your buck. Anything in the Logitech Z-5XXX series I would recommend though.
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    I was going to suggest the Logitech z-5300/5500, but other have betten me to it. If your going to put these in your room, I do suggest the 5300. Puts out less watts yes, but it will still have the power to make things go bump. (would probably make your parents happy too...) They are still THX certified, and still sound as great as the 5500. Less power, less imputs, and I believe a few other options disapear, but still a very good set. (not the best, but considering price/performance, probably the best.)


    I have personally used the Z-5300s and the Z-5500s.... The 5300s are not comparable to the 5500s in any way. And I strongly believe the 5500s are the better buy.
  12. My Z5500's come tomorrow. Im exited about these :D More so than ive been about any other piece of hardware. I been all over the internet looking for a negative review or some negative opinions about these speakers... have found none. Some people said "theyre too loud" or "my house fell down"... i didnt really consider these good reasons to not like a speaker :)

    You guys all seem to have a high opinion of them, which is always a good thing. Ill post back tommorrow on how they work out.
  13. I can think of a few logical cons... the sub is big and heavy... The back of the control thingy gets quite warm, hot even while playing at loud volumns for a long period of time... My centre speaker keeps falling off my monitor from the vibrations from the sub, =D... Enjoy your new speakers man!
  14. Ive been looking for a good 5.1 speaker sets for the past 1 month. I couldnt decide which ones to get. Reading from the various post, everyone has either mentioned about the Z5500 and Z5300. How about the Z5400? Anyone has any experiences with those speaker?
    I'm from Melbourne, Aust. I have the option of spending about A$320 for the Z5400 or add extra $120 for the Z5500.

    Also, was considering the Megaworks 550. I know its as powerful as the Z5500 but unfortunately it doesnt have digital playback. Any feedback on the megaworks?
    Would appreciate if someone could help me out here.
    THanks.
  15. The Z-5450 are basically the Z-5300s with 2 'wireless' speakers (still need to be pluged in)... Not a good deal.
  16. Wow SWEET! The piss off the parents factor of these things is pretty high, only had them up at 1/3 volume and one of emm came and complained "oo thats a bit loud isnt it?" Damn a cant wait till i get my own flat, or they leave the house, then im REALLY gonna test the picture fall off the wall factor!!

    Sounds awsome so far, bass is excellent, the sub is 6x the size of my old one and about 8-10x the power, not as heavy as i anticipated but yea for a sub it was pretty heavy. I got the new Z-5500D revision, with the replaceable cables. I dunno if the back panel getting hot is solved in this version, theres a little vent there... dunno if the older ones had that, its not a problem anyways so who cares :D

    Testimonial ---> Tiffany sounds great on Z5500's!! :D :D :D
  17. I have the same version as you.. Z-5500D.. there are vents behind the control pod and it does get warm... as soon as you get a chance to crank them full blast, just make sure the amp on the back of the sub is away from surface so it has good airflow to keep it cool, that thing only gets dangerousy hot if you run it beyond max volumn... "boost 11.... =o"

    (If you didn't know, keep turning the volumn knob up and you have up to boost 11.... try running winamp at 1% volumn and crank it =D)
  18. this is what ive done- took a home theater reciever- hooked up some big floor speakers and BAM top sound

    mab u have a receiver or speakers lying around, reallyl worth it

    i had a logitech 5.1 setup which gets put to shame by a good ole reciever and speakers (cost me 0 dollars)
  19. I'm using an old 5.1 receiver, Polk Satellites and a Velodyne sub. Sounds good to me, I wonder how the Logitech 5500's would compare. I mean they cost a lot less, and my satts only cost $250. I just wasn't too impressed by the musicality of the 5500's, but I guess that's not what they're made for.
  20. You should take a look at the Klipsch ProMedia 5.1 Ultra, I've heard good things about them.
  21. Yeah, I've got until 7/16 to take the BC3's back, so I'm trying to weigh the pros and cons of doing that. I could send them back and get a higher-end headphone DAC & amp...and replace the HK Soundsticks later... I'm babbling...
  22. Logitech Z-550>Klipsch Promedia ultra 5.1

    Z-5500 costs about 250$ give or take. The Promedia Ultras cost 350$, give or take, and are inferior to the Z-5500s.
  23. A pretty reliable rule-of-thumb when buying computer speakers? Weight.

    I've never, ever heard good sound reproduction coming from your average featherweight PC speaker, no matter the cost.

    Also, absolutely avoid any speakers that have paper cones, which = cheap construction. Polymer woofers/ mylar mids and tweeters.
  24. Oi, A grate combo for your need would be to get a X-Fi Fatal1ty sound card cuz its gor the onboard 64mb of X-ram and the logitec z-5500, Tust me, I have these two items, and when I play games in my basement, I can go outside, I hear the sound clearly and it rocks all of my windows. I had the Police called on me several times for noise ordinance and disturbing "The Piece". So yea great deal.
  25. Interesting notion. For some reason part of brain is having trouble accepting speakers from a company that makes mice, keyboards, webcams, etc. ...as being the very best PC speakers. I'm inclined to consider the Klipsch set but read a lot of reviews speaking about the sub breaking down and poor satellite connections.

    With that said, what good PC speakers are to be had that are made by a, forgive me for saying, loud speaker company that are not using cheap paper cones and don't cost more than...say...$400? Even 2.1's? Otherwise you're into buying a monitors and a seperate sub...and can you do that and get a good set for $400? For just musical enjoyment @ my PC more than $400 for speakers is hard for me. I don't have as much $$ to spend as some of you. :oops:
  26. Right, I agree. As a loudspeaker, the Klipsch Promedia series are more competent then the Logitechs--something so simple as a 2-way design with a 1" tweet and a 3" midrange, and a subwoofer that doesn't have to extend well above 120hz (with the bass becoming extremely directoinal) to meet up with the satellites.

    Logitech is priced at a region where they *have* no competition--$200-250 for a 5.1 setup. To say that it trounces the competition is at once both true and redundant. The only actual competition at this price range is the Creative G500, which, even assuming its acoustically superior, lacks the connectivity and the liquid looks of the Z-5500s.

    Logitech is such a "look" brand with their mice and keyboards, I think its fair to say a good portion of first timers buy speakers under the same premises. It's only later on, years later, when they start buying speakers for their sound.
  27. Quote:
    Right, I agree. As a loudspeaker, the Klipsch Promedia series are more competent then the Logitechs--something so simple as a 2-way design with a 1" tweet and a 3" midrange, and a subwoofer that doesn't have to extend well above 120hz (with the bass becoming extremely directoinal) to meet up with the satellites.

    Logitech is priced at a region where they *have* no competition--$200-250 for a 5.1 setup. To say that it trounces the competition is at once both true and redundant. The only actual competition at this price range is the Creative G500, which, even assuming its acoustically superior, lacks the connectivity and the liquid looks of the Z-5500s.

    Logitech is such a "look" brand with their mice and keyboards, I think its fair to say a good portion of first timers buy speakers under the same premises. It's only later on, years later, when they start buying speakers for their sound.


    Amen. Unfortunately, I myself have bought on looks as well. Now I just feel stupid for doing so. 8O
  28. personaly I would go for the Klipsch 5.1 ultra I have been using them for a while now and they sound way better than the logitech 5500. (which my dad has) you basicly have two options Klipsch for sound or Logitech for price. But if you go for the klipsch make sound sure you have a good sound card that provides a clear signal to the amp (sound blaster X-fi) or they may blow at high volume. (and I mean HIGH!)
  29. Quote:
    Interesting notion. For some reason part of brain is having trouble accepting speakers from a company that makes mice, keyboards, webcams, etc. ...as being the very best PC speakers. I'm inclined to consider the Klipsch set but read a lot of reviews speaking about the sub breaking down and poor satellite connections.

    With that said, what good PC speakers are to be had that are made by a, forgive me for saying, loud speaker company that are not using cheap paper cones and don't cost more than...say...$400? Even 2.1's? Otherwise you're into buying a monitors and a seperate sub...and can you do that and get a good set for $400? For just musical enjoyment @ my PC more than $400 for speakers is hard for me. I don't have as much $$ to spend as some of you. :oops:
    You could do like me and use an AV Reciever plugged using your digital output, then hook up a pair of nice speakers. Take a look at Axiom, they make good entry-audiophile-level speakers. It'll blow out of the water any 5.1 if you build yourself your own sound system.

    As for Logitech fanboyism, that means you don't know much about sound quality. Guys who like Logitech should take a look at Bose.
  30. That's not fair, because Logitech's flagship costs $250, and Bose's costs $5000 with no appreciable gains.
  31. I'm in the same boat got a nice set of Logitech Z640, they where a nice companion for a while but I have a nicer job it's time to move on had them for 3 years. Klipsch sound great until they die so I'm gonna pass. Next is where I'm stuck Logitech 5500 $250 shipped Creative Labs (cambridge soundworks) S750 $320 after $100 mail in rebate. I got a 24in sony crt FW900, I wan't the best possible sound from a speaker set but don't wanna mess with receivers and reference speakers because anytime you strap a receiver to your sound card you loose 5.1 or 7.1 and what you really get is 2.1 emulated through 5 speakers. I play a lot of FPS games like CSS, half life 2, Doom 3, I play other type of games NFSP most wanted, guild wars ect, I enjoy playing movies on my pc too. I recently purchased a new sound card, has an audigy zs2 upgraded to a x-fi Plat mostly because I get the front deck and comes with a nice remote, also updates EAX version and adds a few features specially when you use headphones. Half the ppl that prefer the 5500 is because it has the codecs built in, I will not need them at all because I am gonna use it directly through my sound card, don't wanna loose my real 5.1 buy using digital, new sound card should have newer codecs besides dolby wich creative cards don't really do. Technically the question is wich has best sound straight from the soundcard 5500 or S750?
  32. Quote:
    That's not fair, because Logitech's flagship costs $250, and Bose's costs $5000 with no appreciable gains.


    You gentlemen are...brutal. LOL, makes me glad I found this forum.
  33. 300$ multimedia speakers are WAY better than 300$ home theatre speakers. One good point Maximum PC brought up awhile ago. 300$ is top of the line for computer speakers while 300$ is still bottom end for home theatre systems. And my family has a nice setup for movies in the living room, but it is inferior to my speakers, and the setup I have is at least 800$. That being said, yes, home theatre speakers are superior to multimedia speakers. But the cost is completely uncomparative. And a good soundcard+Z5500s vs 300$ reciever and a nice 5.1 system by, for example, polk audio, or klipsch, costing at least 1000$ for the speakers alone, will not yield you any true benefits. I would say most people have there computers in a smaller room, then say, a living room, and don't need to fill up a large space.

    In simple conclusion, and I think most people can agree with me on this. If you computer is used in a smaller room, and you just watch occasional movies, play games, music. Then computer speakers are probably just what your looking for.

    However, if your computer is, for example, a multimedia system in a living room with a 42" plasma display and you have the cash to throw around, go for it and get yourself some 2000$ speakers. But I promise you that The Z5500s will do the same thing. (Z5500s can get to ear damaging levels with almost no audible distortion. The sub is enough to remove items from shelves and off the walls. And for anyone who thinks different, have you personally listened to Z5500s and equivalent in price home theatre speakers?)

    Anyways, I'm going to stop rambling. I will go as far to say as I am an audiophile and I am extremely picky with my audio equipment. And I see no need to spend any more money on speakers because the performance gain would be minimal.
  34. I understand your point, at least, I believe I do. ...but make no mistake. ...it's not about how loud your speakers can get. It's about what sound quality they're putting out at that loud volume. It's about how faithful they are to the source...at...that loud volume.

    Logitech, makes solidly built products...mice, keyboards...webcams...and...speakers, I guess. I don't think their top of the line 5.1 system is really a competitor for Polk, Infinity, and those lower end brands. You can't even say Logitech and Martin-Logan in the same sentence without asking for forgiveness...but we know this. Different markets. So yes, for PC speakers they may be competitive. As long as one qualifies it with *for PC speakers*. I may be misguided, but what I've seen and read leads me to believe that the PC speakers market is not looking for accuracy at all, they're seeking volume and the sound that many associate with bass. ...and if that volume means distortion and noise...well, that's fine too. ...just bear that in mind. Mid-Fi+ Home Theatre speaker systems have a different goal in mind: Accurately reproducing a movie's soundtrack. Different purposes. Different markets. ...and that's just fine.
  35. True, the argument does sound like some Intel guy trying to convince people that their high clockrate = true superiority, without looking at the benchmarks.
  36. I have listened to the 5500 but it was a limited play, about 1yr ago when the compusa in the area carried them, ( now they have the new ones with the wireless rear speakers ) and they were fed through a source so testing was limited wich as some hip hop music. My boss own the S750 I played some movies on it it sounded amazing, I have not been able to found a retail store that has a set of 5500 that I can play with. I just want to now wich will sound better of the two. I know home theather speakers are expensive because I was looking at a few speakers, just a good sub will run you a nice $300, Speakers about $300-500 a pair, If you get book shefs you have to lay some more dough, I might invest for my home audio, for pc I just wan't to keep it at a necessary level. I do agree the 5500 is a grat set of speakers, my question is will the S750 sound better or inferior to them, I ask this because I have owned logitech products they are great, but I had little playtime witht the 5500 and had good opportunity to mess with the S750. I value sound quality/fidelity. And you do make a great point about how intel tries to seduce ppl by telling them that higher clock rates = performance.
  37. Quote:
    True, the argument does sound like some Intel guy trying to convince people that their high clockrate = true superiority, without looking at the benchmarks.


    Ouch.
  38. I digged around a bit, the S750 suffers from the noctorious problem that the set decides to die on you, it is due because they use the same amp as the Klipsch system the B A S H amps, I cannot say 100% that it's a big problem with the S750 so has anyoned owned them and had the go bad? So I definitely think I'm gonna stick with logitech, question is 5500 or take chances with the S750? I think I know what you guys are gonna say and will probably lean towards the 5500.

    Edit: Went to logitech site, even some ppl are having subwoofers die and satelites die, not as bad as other brands. Lesson don't go to priduc threads because most ppl there are ppl with problems. Good thing logitech has a robust 2yr warantee. Gonna call logitech and ask if they are releasing any new sets anytime soon, looks like theyre due to be replaced.
  39. Quote:
    I digged around a bit, the S750 suffers from the noctorious problem that the set decides to die on you, it is due because they use the same amp as the Klipsch system the B A S H amps, I cannot say 100% that it's a big problem with the S750 so has anyoned owned them and had the go bad? So I definitely think I'm gonna stick with logitech, question is 5500 or take chances with the S750? I think I know what you guys are gonna say and will probably lean towards the 5500.

    Edit: Went to logitech site, even some ppl are having subwoofers die and satelites die, not as bad as other brands. Lesson don't go to priduc threads because most ppl there are ppl with problems. Good thing logitech has a robust 2yr warantee. Gonna call logitech and ask if they are releasing any new sets anytime soon, looks like theyre due to be replaced.


    I am dissappointed to hear about the quality issues in the Logitechs. Most of their other products seem to be reasonably well built. Some small upstart Co. might do well to start producing high quality 2.1 and HT PC speaker sets that are at-least reasonably accurate and built to last.
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