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Radeon X1600 Pro: Prolonging the Graphics Life of Your AGP Machine

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June 14, 2006 10:46:19 AM

ATI's X1600 series is meant to offer modern-graphics power for AGP systems. But does the upgrade really make sense or should you save your money and invest in a new rig later?
June 14, 2006 11:17:37 AM

If I were still on AGP, I would most-likely buy a 6800GS, which I consider to be the best value for money.

But personally, I didn't see a point in wasting any amount on a graphics card I wouldn't be able to use in my transition to PCIe, so opted to save for a complete upgrade instead.
The 7800 GT I own now trumps all AGP graphics solutions, and I couldn't be happier with my decision to patiently wait and save.

My opinion is to wait and tackle a complete upgrade rather than buying a card now and regretting it once that system upgrade does come within financial grasp.
June 14, 2006 11:36:37 AM

id get a 6800 or x850, but if u hav the moeny for 7800gs, u should be thinking about pcie system
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June 14, 2006 12:33:25 PM

so how does it compare to a 800XL or 850? People you categorize as having built a high end machine several years back would not have stuffed a moldy 9600 in their boxes or would have upgraded since then.

If there is no advantage over the last fastest AGP release....than it is of no value to the crowd they look to woo. Same thing goes for the 7800 AGP, I looked at comparisons and other than a few frames per second here and there....., it was not worth it. I don't believe 12pipes on a 1600 class card is any faster and maybe slower than an 800 series AGP.
June 14, 2006 12:48:32 PM

I bought an AGP 6800le in august (in fact I upgraded from a 9600xt) for $130 and it gets 3734 in 3dmark05... I would imagine most people with AGP have upgraded to something similar by this time if they want to be able to play FEAR or BF2 or any new games at acceptable frame rates. Maybe this card will be a good buy for people who are still chugging along on a 9x00 card, but those people should've upgraded a long time ago. You're much better off at this point just waiting until you can build a whole new system, prices should be fairly reasonable once Conroe comse out in July.
June 14, 2006 12:54:53 PM

Exactly what you said,

I had a pretty decent Geforce 5950 but went ahead and upgraded to 800XL, hate the drivers but the card is fast, pretty cheap on ebay.
June 14, 2006 1:22:23 PM

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Exactly what you said,

I had a pretty decent Geforce 5950 but went ahead and upgraded to 800XL, hate the drivers but the card is fast, pretty cheap on ebay.


What do you mean when you say you hate the drivers?
June 14, 2006 3:06:50 PM

I am in exactly this position.

I have waited and waited, but now my P2.4G AGP and 9600Pro is limping along with older games.

I have about $1000 to spend, and need to do so before August (or I miss out on a big rebate from work).

What do I do????
The dilemma! The horror! The thrill (I'M FINALLY UPGRADING!!!)...

Conroe will shake up the pricing. TG just posted a cheap 4GHz solution. I could just throw down ~$300 on another AGP card and sit on my machine for another year or so... options, options.

Any advice is welcomed...
June 14, 2006 3:48:15 PM

Greets,

I have been quite interested in a potential budget-ish update to my old system, but was a little dismayed to see this benched against the 9600.

Does ANYONE out there know this would perform against a 9800 Pro?

Any help is appreciated!

Thanks
a b } Memory
June 14, 2006 3:53:01 PM

If you care to look at the old article AGP Charts Part III you'll see the performance differences between the 9600 Pro and 9800 Pro. Then you can see the performance differences between the 9600 Pro and X1600 Pro, and draw a good conclusion.
June 14, 2006 4:06:37 PM

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I am in exactly this position.

I have waited and waited, but now my P2.4G AGP and 9600Pro is limping along with older games.

I have about $1000 to spend, and need to do so before August (or I miss out on a big rebate from work).

What do I do????
The dilemma! The horror! The thrill (I'M FINALLY UPGRADING!!!)...

Conroe will shake up the pricing. TG just posted a cheap 4GHz solution. I could just throw down ~$300 on another AGP card and sit on my machine for another year or so... options, options.

Any advice is welcomed...


If you really can't wait until conroe comes out to upgrade, my advice would be to buy a 6600gt on ebay. You can probably get one for around $75. That will let you play games fine on your current system, at least good enough to hold you over until you can get a more serious upgrade. Then when Conroe comes out, resell the 6600gt and get your money back, then build a new system.
June 14, 2006 4:20:03 PM

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If you really can't wait until conroe comes out to upgrade, my advice would be to buy a 6600gt on ebay. You can probably get one for around $75. That will let you play games fine on your current system, at least good enough to hold you over until you can get a more serious upgrade. Then when Conroe comes out, resell the 6600gt and get your money back, then build a new system.

So you think a mid-range system (the $1000 range including vid card) will be effected significantly by Conroe? Do you see Conroe being an option itself, or just the backlash in pricing of all the current hw? An example: pricing of X2 cpus and mbs...?
June 14, 2006 4:28:21 PM

I was disappointd to see the 6800GS omitted from the testbed. :( 
The 1600Pro is hampered by a 128 bit interface. The 512MB is wasted. I would guess a 9800 Pro would give the Viper a good run in most games and lower resolutions.

Still, I was happy to see Tom's reviewing an AGP card and still pondering the "advantage" of PCIe. The comparriso of two 1600Pros was proof that only the dual card setup is the only advantage of the PCIe interface.
June 14, 2006 4:30:09 PM

I was disappointed to see the 6800GS omitted from the testbed. :( 
The 1600Pro is hampered by a 128 bit interface. The 512MB is wasted. I would guess a 9800 Pro would give the Viper a good run in most games and lower resolutions.

Still, I was happy to see Tom's reviewing an AGP card and still pondering the "advantage" of PCIe. The comparrison of two 1600Pros was proof that only the dual card setup is the only real advantage of the PCIe interface.
June 14, 2006 4:30:49 PM

I'm in your position too...and for the money, i think i'm gonna go w/ a Pentium D 805 and OC it. I've seen way too many success stories about it.

On TigerDirect I priced a new mobo, 805 D, 1 GB RAM, GeForce 7900GT 256, CPU Cooler, and Power Supply (550 watt) for just over $830. That would be a screamer for under a grand. Might be something to consider. I think i'm gonna do it... just gotta come up w/ the funds.
June 14, 2006 4:31:28 PM

Quote:

So you think a mid-range system (the $1000 range including vid card) will be effected significantly by Conroe? Do you see Conroe being an option itself, or just the backlash in pricing of all the current hw? An example: pricing of X2 cpus and mbs...?


Right, I'd say any CPU you buy today you'll be able to get for 40-50% cheaper come the end of July. check out this article:
http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=2800

As far as conroe itself being an option, I wouldn't rule it out completely. The cheapest Conroe is supposed to be around $250, which may fit into a budget of $1000. But then, it may not. Either way, I think the best option is to wait and see.
June 14, 2006 4:35:55 PM

I was in this sitution a month ago. I had a P4 2.6c w a 9600. I pretty much only play BF2 on MEd settings. Its was pretty decent. However, the Special Forces expansion chugged along.

I was able to get an x800xl AIW for $179 (CAN) which is a pretty good price up here. I now have excellent frame rates in both BF and SF, but still at MEd settings. High settings still get very choppy at times, even after adding a 2nd GB of ram.

A full upgrade was not a priority for me financially, and I felt that this would be a decent compromise which would enable me to get another year out of my existing system. I may upgrade to an AMD 3500+ system in 6 mnths and just carry the x800xl over to that system and see how much of a further performance gain I get.
June 14, 2006 4:36:10 PM

Still, the question remains - which is the best AGP card for those of us in the $200 or so range?

It needs to be fast, and it needs to have all the goodies, of course, but part of me is thinking that I should suffer until DX10 comes out.

But I can't play several of my newest games - jut way too slow for no apparent reason(Hitman Blood Money, for instance - ghastly slow despite its crude graphics.
June 14, 2006 4:37:01 PM

So staying on topic, I am in a situation where I have a media center PC and AGP + Socket 478 P4.

You mentioned at the conclusion of the article this might be a good solution for HTPC owners for the latest decoding and HDR features etc... and Avivo. I am trying to get better image quality from my TV signal and I think this might be a solution for me. I currently have a BFG 6800GT OC that I bought in July 2004 and an EVGA tv tuner for Media center 2005 and I have to say DVD's look great but the tv signal is something to be desired. also I can't play many of the newer movie trailers well because my vid card doesnt support H.264 acceleration.

I dont really play games on this PC but I want the option if something needs RMA'd on my gaming PC or it melts or something like that. LOL.

Now I just need to find a good TV tuner card to pair this with.
a b } Memory
June 14, 2006 5:03:49 PM

If I were using an X1600 for HTPC, I'd also use the ATI TV Wonder Elite, or one of the cheaper clones from Sapphire/Powercolor.

Of course I'd also use ATI MultiMedia Center rather than MCE, since it seems to have a bit less overhead and I have a couple XP Pro licenses.

But regardless of MCE or MMC, the TV-Wonder Elite and its clones are top candidates for standard TV quality.
June 14, 2006 5:09:36 PM

my opinion of current AGP options would be the Sapphire X800GTO (I bought one earlier this year). You won't have pixel shader 3 capability, but as a result you save the extra workload it would otherwise need to process for it. It has GDDR3 memory (why is the x1600 only ddr2 when it's newer???), and can be significantly overclocked even with the STOCK cooler! Why Sapphire's x8xx series coolers are better than ATI's is beyond me! I switched to a zalman cooler and only gained marginal increase in max overclock, with about a 10 degree decrease (does'nt hurt).

looking at the VGA charts it is roughly equivalent in performance to the 6800, depending on what game you are playing (although hard to know for sure since it was not reviewed for some reason), but does not have pixelshader 3. The difference in these technologies is marginal right now, and you would likely not miss it (I don't).

With 1gb of RAM and an A643200+, I can play BF2 on all high settings, but no AA/AF. If you really want AA/AF in an FPS, save up and get a PCIE 7800+ card. Personally, I have seen them side by side at LAN parties, and I am SO glad I saved the money and stuck with AGP for now. I can't see the difference.
June 14, 2006 5:14:46 PM

Looking at some benchmarks on Toms the 6600GT agp seems to be better than the X1600 pro agp and the 6600GT is still a fairly cheap upgrade. But I agree if you need to build a new system go with PCI express. Ashame the AGP cards left now come at such preimum prices. Also to the guy wanting to get that Pentium D 805 that sounds great and all but just pay a little more and get a better chip and don't over clock. If you look at the benchmarks for the 805 before it is over clocked and after it only gives you about 10 frames. I mean it has one chart that shows 80 some FPS then overclocked to the max it gives you like 10 extra FPS. That will make no difference in your game play. Plus look at the AMD chips they have dropped in price a lot and are great for gaming. My Athlon 64 3200+ still runs with the big boys. I liked the fact that they used the Asus Rock Uli board to test. I used this board to build a new system last Xmas and have no regrets. It is a great board because it has a full speed AGP slot and a PCI express slot. Sorry no SLI but I will probably never have an SLI system unless I get rich! Or maybe in 2 years when they are the standard thing. My 6800 vanilla is still going strong and I probably wont go PCI express until this xmas. I liked the article but yes I agree they went back too far by pulling out a 9600 pro. There were other agp cards they could have used. Would have been neat to see how the fastest older AGP cards do in the modern new games like Fear and Oblivion. I try to stay about a year behind the technology curve that way I always have a pretty decent gaming system and it does not cost me too much. So in other words I will probably not get fear or oblivion for another year and by then my system will be good enough to play them at resolutions that I will enjoy. Just do what works for you and you can't go wrong. :D 
June 14, 2006 5:37:35 PM

>>Also to the guy wanting to get that Pentium D 805 that sounds great and all but just pay a little more and get a better chip and don't over clock. If you look at the benchmarks for the 805 before it is over clocked and after it only gives you about 10 frames. I mean it has one chart that shows 80 some FPS then overclocked to the max it gives you like 10 extra FPS. That will make no difference in your game play. <<

I can getting an 805 for $125 or I can get an 840 EE for $900...and both perform the same. So I can get all my components for <$900 or get the one 840 EE processor and spend almost a grand on one part. I realize that the 805 might not outperform by a large margin some of the faster pocessors, but the fact that it can compete with an EE proc. and i can get it for a fraction of the cost speaks volumes to me. Besides, all i have is an Athlon64 2800+, 1gb ram, and a Geforce4 MX-460. So i'm due a big upgrade. (i'm stuck w/ the AGP problem on this thread...and i think i'm gonna go with the system upgrade, not the vid card upgrade)

For the record, i've always been an AMD guy, but this OC'ing ability on this 805 makes it worth going to intel....just this once :) 
June 14, 2006 5:57:17 PM

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Still, the question remains - which is the best AGP card for those of us in the $200 or so range?

It needs to be fast, and it needs to have all the goodies, of course, but part of me is thinking that I should suffer until DX10 comes out.

But I can't play several of my newest games - jut way too slow for no apparent reason(Hitman Blood Money, for instance - ghastly slow despite its crude graphics.


At under $200 I would get the 6800GS. I picked mine up for $189 at Fry's. However, its disappeared from the market in the last two months. 8O Something at the level of at least ATi x800 or 6600GT/6800XT would do you well too.

Worrying about DX10 compliant cards isn't a big deal imho. Most games haven't even exploited DX9 features. (besides, think of all the ubergamers spending $$$$ on those x1800/1900 and 7800/7900 cards) :lol: 
June 14, 2006 6:22:01 PM

One of the posters on Sharky forum noticed this good buy on a x800GTO


X800GTO *AGP* $100 AR @ Newegg, ends today 5pm PST!

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http://slickdeals.net/?sduid=59758&...N82E16814102609

$159.99
-$30 promo code: sapphire8hr
$129.99
-$30 rebate
http://slickdeals.net/?sduid=59758&...Jun2006gc13.pdf

Apparently you can easily unlock all 16 pipes as well.

Jump on it if you still have AGP.
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June 14, 2006 7:03:29 PM

It seems like an expensive upgrade to me. It could be cost effective to go with amd, with an nvidia chipset board, still use the ddr 400 memory, harddrives, and a economical pci-e graphics card and get a couple of more years use of some of the older components.
June 14, 2006 7:16:20 PM

I wouldn't throw away my money on an X1600.
June 14, 2006 7:22:30 PM

:D  It worked! Just picked one up baby! nice deal $100.00 bucks after promo and rebate.



X800GTO *AGP* $100 AR @ Newegg, ends today 5pm PST!

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http://slickdeals.net/?sduid=59758&...N82E16814102609

$159.99
-$30 promo code: sapphire8hr
$129.99
-$30 rebate
http://slickdeals.net/?sduid=59758&...Jun2006gc13.pdf

Apparently you can easily unlock all 16 pipes as well.

Jump on it if you still have AGP.
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June 14, 2006 7:52:34 PM

this is an excellent price, I would encourage anyone to take advantage. HOWEVER....

please note the following comment is incorrect in relation to the AGP version of the sapphire x800gto video card:

"Apparently you can easily unlock all 16 pipes as well. "

This was only true with SOME PCIx versions of the card, I believe those from Powercolor? I scoured the internet ensuring this was the case before making my purchase decision. There was some (incorrect) conjecture in some places that ALL x800GTO's could be "unlocked" in this way, but I could only find ONE instance of anyone actually trying it with an AGP Sapphire card. Shortly afterward, that person was frantically seeking out a stock video BIOS which he had not backed up, because the unlock did not work.

The card must be a specific GPU chip, and not all x800GTO's have the same one. therefore, do not count on this ability.
June 14, 2006 8:13:51 PM

It's a very good card for what it is. I made this exact transition myself just 6 weeks ago. Extends the life of my Athlon 2800+, and when it gets handed down to my 8 yr old it will last for several more years. At mid-2006 it gets me SM3.0 and lets me play FEAR at reasonable settings, Half-Life2, BF2 online, etc. for only $135. Now I won't be frustrated while I wait for my next rebuild in early 2007 when DX10 cards come out with Vista. It was a perfect solution for me. However my son has almost the same system as I do and I got him a 6800GS because he has to wait longer for his next PC.
June 14, 2006 8:33:32 PM

Quote:
this is an excellent price, I would encourage anyone to take advantage. HOWEVER....

please note the following comment is incorrect in relation to the AGP version of the sapphire x800gto video card:

"Apparently you can easily unlock all 16 pipes as well. "

This was only true with SOME PCIx versions of the card, I believe those from Powercolor? I scoured the internet ensuring this was the case before making my purchase decision. There was some (incorrect) conjecture in some places that ALL x800GTO's could be "unlocked" in this way, but I could only find ONE instance of anyone actually trying it with an AGP Sapphire card. Shortly afterward, that person was frantically seeking out a stock video BIOS which he had not backed up, because the unlock did not work.

The card must be a specific GPU chip, and not all x800GTO's have the same one. therefore, do not count on this ability.


I would say your success would be similar to unlocking the pipes on the 6800GS...your results may be different. I just copied over the entire post reporting on the newegg deal.
June 14, 2006 11:49:35 PM

I see several people asking how this card compares to an 9800Pro or X800XL. Luckily for your guys I have a system similar to the one they used for those benchmarks, and I have run both of those cards in it, and I saved all my 3DMark05 spreadsheet outputs.

The test system that they used for the review was a P4 2.6GHz with 2GB of PC3200, and my system is an Athlon XP2800+ with 1GB of PC2700. The 3DMark05 score they posted with the X1600Pro for 1024x768, no AA, no AF, is 3993.

I ran 3DMark05 with the same default settings, and here are my scores:

9800Pro and stock speeds:
CPU @ 2088MHz
RAM @ 166MHz
GPU @ 378MHz
Vid RAM @ 338MHz
Score = 1953

9800Pro and everything overclocked:
CPU @ 2257MHz
RAM @ 180MHz
GPU @ 381MHz
Vid RAM @ 370MHz
Score = 2315

X800XL and stock speeds:
CPU @ 2088MHz
RAM @ 166MHz
GPU @ 398MHz
Vid RAM @ 493MHz
Score = 4730

X800XL and everything overclocked:
CPU @ 2231MHz
RAM @ 178MHz
GPU @ 410MHz
Vid RAM @ 533MHz
Score = 4992

So, while this obviously isn't precise because my system has less RAM and a more powerful CPU, it can give some comparison between two aged systems with upgraded video cards. Hope that helps.
a b } Memory
June 15, 2006 12:49:23 AM

That would be a far better deal, I'd expect the stock X800GTO to provide similar performance to the X1600 Pro.
June 15, 2006 2:34:37 AM

The x1600 seems quite worthless to me, there are better routs to upgrade if you want to stay on agp like previous posters have stated.
June 15, 2006 2:34:53 AM

The x1600 seems quite worthless to me, there are better routs to upgrade if you want to stay on agp like previous posters have stated.
June 15, 2006 6:29:27 AM

NewEgg to the rescue again! :) 

The X800GTO looks to be a decent card. But the price jumped up to $159 again(I have no faith in rebates, being burnt too many times, sorry)

My current system gets a so-so 2500 score. It's the best P4 motherboard from three years ago, and still does quite well, but the video card I have, a NVidia 5700(non-LE) with the TV tuner and all the goodies - it's just dreadfully slow. It says DX9 capable. It isn't - not without serious crashes and problems. If a game doesn't have a DX8 override setting on it, the thing goes into DX9 *software* mode by default. (OMG!)

It only has 128MB on it. And of course, it for some reason only is able to run at AGP 4x, since the idiots at NVidia stopped supporting video cards with individual drivers and the options left to me are either: stock, original drivers(AGP4x), or run their ForceWare utility and have the new drivers hard-crash my machine right after POST.
(loose-loose situation, ZERO other options)

So an ATI chipset card looks attractive, since I can at least get updated drivers and/or tweak with it as neeed.

Besides the X800GTO, what oter options that are the same speed or faster are there from ATI?
June 15, 2006 7:07:10 AM

While I think its great that you can tweak an x800 to get more speed out of it than an x1600 , I think the point of this whole article got lost somewhere I posted earlier that I think this would be a great $100 dollar solution to an AGP system that is still very much useable.

I in fact bought one of these x1600 pro 512 mb cards off of newegg for 138.00 usd to replace a 6800gt oc, the 6800gt may even be faster than the x1600 for gaming but for what it will be used for and what you have to keep in mind is that the 6800 series has no h.264 acceleration and either does the x800 series and lower. so if you are wondering why the latest movie trailers and downloaded movies that use this HD acceleration are choppy to you , now you know.

the 138.00 usd bought me at least 1 or 2 more years with my current media pc situation. seems like a good deal vs. cpu,mobo,ram possibly, not to mention the file transfers and reformatting and headaches installing everything and the time involved.

so in a year or 2 when I upgrade my HTPC, hell I can chuck that 100.00 usd brick of worthless AGP garbage away and not feel like I just sold a kidney to support a SLI addiction.
June 15, 2006 11:49:33 AM

odd, i have never seen any 2d movie play choppy on my pc. It's not like 2d video is challenging for any modern video card. Perhaps you're playing them at a very high resolution? Not really something to be concerned about for most users, but a valid point if anyone else reading this post intends to run very high resolutions.
a b } Memory
June 15, 2006 12:56:11 PM

The article specifically looks at the Diamond Viper X1600 Pro AGP 512MB, a $176 card, similar in price to 7600GT and X1600XT PCI-Express cards. As such, many buyers might consider spending the extra money on a PCI-Express board during their upgrade, rather than buying a card that cost 50% more than its relative performance would indicate.
June 15, 2006 2:41:23 PM

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odd, i have never seen any 2d movie play choppy on my pc. It's not like 2d video is challenging for any modern video card. Perhaps you're playing them at a very high resolution? Not really something to be concerned about for most users, but a valid point if anyone else reading this post intends to run very high resolutions.


example, download the superman trailers from apple.com or some of the latest HD game trailers like crysis if you have a 6800 series vid card or an older radeon. no they are not challenging harware wise but they dont "support" that type of video acceleration. they should but they dont its quite puzzling actually.
June 15, 2006 2:56:33 PM

Ok since I must have a kick me sign taped to my back , I would rather "at the moment" buy a 176 dollar card then throw it away in a year then buy an entire new system for more $$$ obviously. I was merely stating an application that was mentioned at the end of the article and wanted to post some maybe helpful "opinions" or have a different approach , also I think I may be able to OC this card a little better with my VF900-Cu from zalman and should run just fine at those clocks considering its going to be used for HTPC only , watching movies, TV etc...
June 15, 2006 3:19:56 PM

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I in fact bought one of these x1600 pro 512 mb cards off of newegg for 138.00 usd to replace a 6800gt oc

I also just bought one from newegg for $138 w/ $15 Rebate = $123. Specs are same as the Diamond card in this review (500MHz clock, 800MHz Memory @ DDR2), it arrived yesterday. Until then I'd seen no real benchmarks of this card but figured it was close to x1600 256MB cards.

I put this into a S754 Venice combo running at 2.5GHz and Saphire is at default settings and I got 4176 in 3dMark05 (free version). Not a bad card for the price and not a lot of options in that range. Wasn't sure if I should go with x800 but the avivo sold me on the x1600. At $123 it's a much easier decision to go AGP than the $175 price of the diamond card.
June 15, 2006 3:54:44 PM

A not quit documented problem with the X1600 Pro cards;

1. they DO NOT work on the ASRock 775Dual 880Pro.
2. they will KILL the AGP versions of the DFI LanParty mobo. (known to DFI) twice this week alone.

there are also NO know fixes in the works.
a b } Memory
June 15, 2006 4:03:12 PM

The review probably had to consider the specific value on Diamond's card, since Diamond supplied the card. Certain you're right that a Sapphire card, being less expensive, would tip the scales toward the X1600 Pro's favor.
June 15, 2006 4:49:08 PM

The shame of ATi is making the x1600 only 128bit. Putting 512MB of DDR2 won't make it any better against a vanilla 6800. I would even bet that the XFX 6800XT with 256MB DDR3 will out perform an x1600Pro. Too bad Tom didn't compare these two cards. By abandoning the entire x800 series, ATi really conceded the upper end of the AGP market (whatever the number of users) to Nvidia.

Checking the messagebaord posting last year at this time, it was thought that no one would be supplying new AGP cards, or even testing/reviewing AGP cards today. hah
June 15, 2006 10:00:38 PM

Shouldn't this thread be in the graphics forum?

Is there a reason article discussion topics keep getting posted in wierd places?
June 15, 2006 11:09:18 PM

This card did not work with me and my motherboard.

I have an Asus A7M266-D motherboard with dual 2800+ Mp cpus and 3.5gb of ECC Registered ram.

The specs on the motherboard state that it is AGP 2.0 Spec compliant but trying to boot it fails and gets missing Video bios beep code.

I tried 3 other new AGP cards. An ATI x800 and Nvidia fx5200 and Fx6600

the fx 5200 sort of worked but crashed my system al the time and none of my games ran.

I have the latest BIOS. also tried setting all to defaults. and removed all other PCI cards and still no success.

I called ATI and the card makers.

I have only found that the AMD Chipset that the motherboard uses has issues the 760, 761 and 762 gernerations.
a b } Memory
June 16, 2006 12:29:17 AM

Did you make sure to connect the floppy style power connector to the power supply?
June 16, 2006 7:00:42 PM

Quote:
Did you make sure to connect the floppy style power connector to the power supply?


my qustion, if this was the case, why the fuk did you not notice the awful beeping that ATI cards give out? LOL!
a b } Memory
June 16, 2006 10:29:04 PM

That's what he said, he plugs the card in and hears an awefull beeping!
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