voip in Europe - ch, de, at numbers

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Hello,

Anyone knows how to have a zurich, wien, or frankfurt
voip number?

sipgate.at and .de don't offer numbers anymore, do you
know other voip providers?

No iconnetchere please, 50% of calls are lost with them,

thanks

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Robert Spielmann wrote:
> On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 13:46:43 +0100
> "brix" <nia@nia.de> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> Anyone knows how to have a zurich, wien, or frankfurt
>> voip number?
>>
>> sipgate.at and .de don't offer numbers anymore, do you
>> know other voip providers?
>
> We (in .de) have a RegTP regulation rule enforcing that a
> "geographic" phone number may only be given out to a resident of
> the corresponding area, hence people from Hamburg, Rio de Janeiro
> or Planet Mars cannot get a phone number in FFM (for example) ;-)

I know that Sipgate require that you register using a UK based IP address
to get a UK geographic number, maybe it's the same in Germany..? If so,
find someone in the area you want the number for to register an account
using your name. If they do so from a computer with a "local" IP address
it should work ok.

Ivor

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Tor-Einar Jarnbjo <bjo@pobox.com> wrote:
> Ivor Jones wrote:
>> I know that Sipgate require that you register using a UK based IP address
>> to get a UK geographic number, maybe it's the same in Germany..?
>
> No, it's not. During the registration on sipgate.de, Sipgate verifies
> that your personal information (name, address) is correct.

How? In Germany is there a failsafe process for private companies to find
out where people live?

miguel
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Miguel Cruz wrote:

> How? In Germany is there a failsafe process for private companies to find
> out where people live?

Well, it depends, but for most people, it is possible to check if the
information they provide is valid. There is a German company called
SCHUFA, which was originally founded to provide credit evaluation and a
vast majority of the people living in Germany are somehow present in
their register. Since recently, they are also providing a simple "do
this person exist" service, which is used by e.g. Sipgate and eBay to
validate the registration data. I'm not sure how Sipgate is handling the
case that the data could not be validated. eBay will send you a
validation code by mail if SCHUFA is not able to verify your address.

Tor

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"Miguel Cruz" <mnc@admin.u.nu> wrote in message
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> How? In Germany is there a failsafe process for private companies to find
> out where people live?

In Germany (like in Finland) most financial transactions (paying your bills)
are done by direct wire transfer (Überweisung). The receiver of the payment
gets verified information of the name of the account holder.

In Finland most banking is done on-line over the Interent. Banks also
provide a (free) on-line authentication service. You type in your banking
PIN and codes on an authentication web page, the organization requiring
authentication will receive your name an social security number.

(This prosess alone will not give your address though...)


--
Petri Krohn
Helsinki Neighborhood Networking Association
HelsinkiOpen -- http://www.helsinkiopen.net

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> One of the points on the UK site specifically states
> that you do not need
> to live in the UK to get a UK number, all they
> require is the initial
> registration is done from a UK-based IP address.

Only if you don't want a regional number.
If you are not a resident then you can only
get a 0845 or 0870 number.

I quote from sipgate.co.uk:

"Important: Customers who sign up with sipgate for
"geographic phone numbers in the UK, must reside
within the UK."

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Miguel Cruz wrote:
> supreme voip <supremevoip@gmail.com> wrote:
>> This Company, which implements VoIP and WiFI technology, offers
>> you the latest technology in communications and saves you money on
>> domestic and international calls. The only thing you need is your
>> broadband Internet connection and you're ready TO SAVE money! (you
>> don't need a computer).
>
> That'll be very handy for all those people who have broadband
> internet but no computer.

Some people don't like leaving computers on all the time. You don't want
your phone to stop working just because you've switched your computer off,
do you..?

Ivor

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"Ivor Jones" <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote in message
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> Robert Spielmann wrote:
>> On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 13:46:43 +0100
>> "brix" <nia@nia.de> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> Anyone knows how to have a zurich, wien, or frankfurt
>>> voip number?
>>>
>>> sipgate.at and .de don't offer numbers anymore, do you
>>> know other voip providers?
>>
>> We (in .de) have a RegTP regulation rule enforcing that a
>> "geographic" phone number may only be given out to a resident of
>> the corresponding area, hence people from Hamburg, Rio de Janeiro
>> or Planet Mars cannot get a phone number in FFM (for example) ;-)
>
> I know that Sipgate require that you register using a UK based IP address
> to get a UK geographic number, maybe it's the same in Germany..? If so,
> find someone in the area you want the number for to register an account
> using your name. If they do so from a computer with a "local" IP address
> it should work ok.
>
> Ivor
>
>

If all you need is a "local" IP address, check this site for a list of
proxies all over the world!

Most of them are free--just change your browser settings to route your
Internet use through the foreigh proxy, and you're on.

http://www.stayinvisible.com/index.pl/proxy_list