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Anonymous
March 29, 2005 8:47:41 PM

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In order to make it easier to switch directly to POTS in case of a pbx
failure, I need a hardware switch to connect one phone to two different
sockets. Anyone have any experience with thiese?

thx
Anonymous
March 29, 2005 8:47:42 PM

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BlueRinse wrote:
> In order to make it easier to switch directly to POTS in case of a pbx
> failure, I need a hardware switch to connect one phone to two different
> sockets. Anyone have any experience with thiese?
>
> thx

Can't you just move the plug from one socket to the other?
Anonymous
March 29, 2005 8:47:42 PM

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BlueRinse <brinseM-newminuitLoseThis@sneakemail.com> wrote:
> In order to make it easier to switch directly to POTS in case of a pbx
> failure, I need a hardware switch to connect one phone to two different
> sockets. Anyone have any experience with thiese?

If you buy a DPDT switch at Radio Shack and wire it yourself, it should cost
$2 or so.

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Anonymous
March 29, 2005 8:47:42 PM

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> > BlueRinse wrote:
> > In order to make it easier to switch directly to
> > POTS in case of a pbx failure, I need a hardware
> > switch to connect one phone to two different
> > sockets. Anyone have any experience with thiese?

> Miguel Cruz wrote:
> If you buy a DPDT switch at Radio Shack and wire it
> yourself, it should cost $2 or so.

RS's #43-433 is $18.49 if BlueRinse isn't that handy.

http://tinyurl.com/3fool

The TinyURL is auto-generated, I'm not implying anything.
--
Roger Elmore
UTM Telecommunications
Anonymous
March 30, 2005 2:24:15 PM

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> > Roger Elmore wrote:
> > RS's #43-433 is $18.49 if BlueRinse isn't that handy.

> BlueRinse wrote:
> Perfect, thanks. It happens that I didn't look there because we don't
have
> any RS in Europe, but now that I know they have these, I'll check
into it
> next time I'm somewhere where there is a store.

Since you are wanting to switch between a PBX line and a POTS, I assume
the PBX line is analog also. Why not just use a readily available
2-line analog phone? If the PBX goes out, press line 2...

Since you are making the switch accessable to the person using the
phone, there's really no difference, and you save having a gadget
taking up desk space.
--
Roger Elmore
UTM Telecommunications
Anonymous
March 30, 2005 8:25:03 PM

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On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 09:54:06 -0500, Rick Merrill wrote:

> BlueRinse wrote:
>> [quoted text muted]
>
> Can't you just move the plug from one socket to the other?

Yes I can, but the person who is alone in the office may not be able to.
Anonymous
March 30, 2005 8:26:38 PM

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> RS's #43-433 is $18.49 if BlueRinse isn't that handy.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/3fool

Perfect, thanks. It happens that I didn't look there because we don't have
any RS in Europe, but now that I know they have these, I'll check into it
next time I'm somewhere where there is a store.
Anonymous
April 2, 2005 7:10:00 PM

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Try to put yopurself in the position of the user, not the maintainer.

> Since you are wanting to switch between a PBX line and a POTS, I assume
> the PBX line is analog also. Why not just use a readily available
> 2-line analog phone? If the PBX goes out, press line 2...

Because no one is asking me to replace a phone they like. If they *had* a
two-line phone, it would be able to use the two lines, since 99% of the
time the pbx is up. (For the last year, 100% actually, except for a power
failure.)

> Since you are making the switch accessable to the person using the
> phone, there's really no difference, and you save having a gadget taking
> up desk space.

Making it easier for a person to accomplish things is not necessarily
facilitated by forcing a new phone on them. It was hard enough getting
them to like the pbx! The switch can be on the floor or under the desk.

The point of the switch is simple: if the phone goes dead, try hitting the
switch. The existing phone also has a callerid box on it, which is why
changing the cable from one to the other is overly complicated. I had to
go back to the office once to do it myself.
Anonymous
April 2, 2005 7:10:01 PM

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In article <pan.2005.04.02.13.10.00.187000@sneakemail.com> BlueRinse
<brinseM-newminuitLoseThis@sneakemail.com> writes:

>Try to put yopurself in the position of the user, not the maintainer.

Couldn't agree more.
To someone who is even the least bit technically orientated it can be
mind-boggling to try to understand how an ordinarily otherwise intelligent
human being can be *SO UTTERLY HELPLESS* when it comes to even the most
simple of "technical" tasks, like plugging in the phone.

>> Since you are wanting to switch between a PBX line and a POTS, I assume
>> the PBX line is analog also. Why not just use a readily available
>> 2-line analog phone? If the PBX goes out, press line 2...

>Because no one is asking me to replace a phone they like. If they *had* a
>two-line phone, it would be able to use the two lines, since 99% of the
>time the pbx is up. (For the last year, 100% actually, except for a power
>failure.)

Correct again. Unless the PBX had developed a history of routine failures
such that the user had, through multiple prior experiences become
accustomed to switching over, this plan wouldn't work.

>> Since you are making the switch accessable to the person using the
>> phone, there's really no difference, and you save having a gadget taking
>> up desk space.

>Making it easier for a person to accomplish things is not necessarily
>facilitated by forcing a new phone on them. It was hard enough getting
>them to like the pbx! The switch can be on the floor or under the desk.

>The point of the switch is simple: if the phone goes dead, try hitting the
>switch. The existing phone also has a callerid box on it, which is why
>changing the cable from one to the other is overly complicated. I had to
>go back to the office once to do it myself.

One of the great disasters of the voice cabling infrastructure in our
office was the ill-fated decision by someone back in the late 1990s to
install ***TWO*** voice jacks in a common faceplace at every (3000+)
workstation. The idea at the time was to have every faceplace "equipped
for" the chance possibility of the user wanting a modem line, even though
fewer than 10% of the employees ever had one.

Gauwd-d-d-d-d-d-d almighty, I cannot begin to tell you the number of
service calls that has spawned. Having some technical skills, I also do
not understand why someone would unplug their phone and then not be able
to get it back into the same jack as before, but Jesus Mary and Joseph, it
happens over and over, at least once a week. Further confusing the
technical mind is why, if one jack doesn't work the mental midgets don't
think to try the other one.

You have to understand, the users are the same folks who today, even if
their life depended on it, would have no earthly clue how to use their
computer if someone stole their mouse.
Anonymous
April 2, 2005 7:10:02 PM

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> To someone who is even the least bit technically orientated it can be
> mind-boggling to try to understand how an ordinarily otherwise intelligent
> human being can be *SO UTTERLY HELPLESS* when it comes to even the most
> simple of "technical" tasks, like plugging in the phone.

That's out of line.

The likely place a set of telco plugs would need to exist is in the wiring
closet. This is a place most normal people are "not supposed to go".
Asking them to wander in there and make sense of rats nest of wires is
unrealistic. Granted, this could be wired up such that it was in an
easier-to-access location with user-friendly labels attached but it's still
be something most normal people would have trouble handling properly. So
while you may feel a certain sense of superiority about it most of the
regular people doing the work don't, and shouldn't, care about it. Besides
it's them doing their jobs that justifies all this infrastructure being
there in the first place. Without them, well, admins aren't very
necessary....

> One of the great disasters of the voice cabling infrastructure in our
> office was the ill-fated decision by someone back in the late 1990s to
> install ***TWO*** voice jacks in a common faceplace at every (3000+)
> workstation. The idea at the time was to have every faceplace "equipped
> for" the chance possibility of the user wanting a modem line, even though
> fewer than 10% of the employees ever had one.

Damned if do, damned if you don't. One trick that helps avoid trouble is to
use color-coded sockets. That and LABELLING the faceplaces. Users are
always going to screw things up. You can only hope to mitigate the
frequency of their screwups and the amount of blame they'll try to put on
you.

> You have to understand, the users are the same folks who today, even if
> their life depended on it, would have no earthly clue how to use their
> computer if someone stole their mouse.

Which has nothing to do with telco wiring.
Anonymous
April 2, 2005 7:10:02 PM

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Mitel Lurker wrote:
....
> One of the great disasters of the voice cabling infrastructure in our
> office was the ill-fated decision by someone back in the late 1990s to
> install ***TWO*** voice jacks in a common faceplace at every (3000+)
> workstation. ...

The user has the mental model that the two jacks are the same
sort-of-thing as the two AC power jacks: he/she thinks that they are
parallel or the same thing. You have to lable the jacks.
Anonymous
April 2, 2005 10:05:51 PM

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> >> Roger Elmore wrote:
> >> Why not just use a readily available 2-line analog
> >> phone? If the PBX goes out, press line 2...

> >BlueRinse wrote:
> >Because no one is asking me to replace a phone they
> >like. If they *had* a two-line phone, it would be
> >able to use the two lines, since 99% of the time the
> >pbx is up. (For the last year, 100% actually, except
> >for a power failure.)

> Mitel Lurker wrote:
> Correct again. Unless the PBX had developed a history
> of routine failures such that the user had, through
> multiple prior experiences become accustomed to switching
> over, this plan wouldn't work.

Yeah, I should know better. I've chased more than a couple of trouble
calls for people who have their two-line's "conference" button pressed
in and didn't realize it. They call someone, get them *and* their
voicemail since it's set to forward busy...

> One of the great disasters of the voice cabling
> infrastructure in our office was the ill-fated decision
> by someone back in the late 1990s to install ***TWO***
> voice jacks in a common faceplace at every (3000+)
> workstation. The idea at the time was to have every
> faceplace "equipped for" the chance possibility of the
> user wanting a modem line, even though fewer than 10% of
> the employees ever had one.

3000+ extensions on my campus also. Around half are students. The
dorms were wired for telephone (either wallplates or c-blocks) long
before contractors put in CATV and ethernet in a common surface mount
Panduit box. Every semester when the kids move in they find the CATV,
then plug their phone into the data jack, and call the Help Desk on
their cell complaining of no dial tone. What gets me is that while the
tech has them on the line, why not talk them through finding the jack,
rather than logging a work order to me. Now I have to go to the dorm
and plug their phone in for them since I can't talk to them...

CATV is another good one. When they unplug their TV from home it
reverts back to antenna in the setup. They plug into the campus cable
and call complaining they only get the first 13 channels so there
*must* be something wrong with the cable...
--
Roger Elmore
UTM Telecommunications
Anonymous
April 3, 2005 12:30:27 AM

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In article <1112493951.344578.124780@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> "Roger
Elmore" <rrelmore@usa.net> writes:


>3000+ extensions on my campus also. Around half are students. The
>dorms were wired for telephone (either wallplates or c-blocks) long
>before contractors put in CATV and ethernet in a common surface mount
>Panduit box. Every semester when the kids move in they find the CATV,
>then plug their phone into the data jack, and call the Help Desk on
>their cell complaining of no dial tone. What gets me is that while the
>tech has them on the line, why not talk them through finding the jack,
>rather than logging a work order to me. Now I have to go to the dorm
>and plug their phone in for them since I can't talk to them...

>CATV is another good one. When they unplug their TV from home it
>reverts back to antenna in the setup. They plug into the campus cable
>and call complaining they only get the first 13 channels so there
>*must* be something wrong with the cable...

We used panduit as well (minicom) and had the opportunity (and even
recommended) that we use different colored jacks to designate the various
services (voice/modem/Lan/DSL) with color-coordinated matching pigtail
cables but the all-knowing architect felt that it wasn't aesthetically
correct, so everything is standard EI. So much for trying to idiot-proof
the infrastructure.

Something else that *REALLY* grindles me... When we were pulling in the
horizontal distribution it was made clear to everyone that voice & data
cables had to be fully supported and could *NOT* lay on the ceiling grid
or lighting fixtures. Then some low-bidder comes in behind us to put in
the fire detection and security system and guess where their cables are?
Pretty obvious too they've never had to deal with a splined ceiling grid
system before either. (That part was almost comical)
Anonymous
April 3, 2005 9:20:17 AM

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> Mitel Lurker wrote:
> We used panduit as well (minicom) and had the opportunity
> (and even recommended) that we use different colored jacks
> to designate the various services (voice/modem/Lan/DSL) with
> color-coordinated matching pigtail cables but the all-knowing
> architect felt that it wasn't aesthetically correct, so
> everything is standard EI. So much for trying to idiot-proof
> the infrastructure.

We were using Panduit prior to this, but this was the early Cat5 days
and ModCom. Back then all Cat5 jacks were orange around the insert so
you had a chance to tell folks to look for the orange jack for data and
white for phone (Cat3 8X8s were white too, though). The dorms were
wired with the early jacks that had the same config as a "normal" 568B
plug. Then Panduit came out with the config that reversed everything
but 3&6. With the old jack obsolete, you couldn't use the existing cap
on a new jack if the student had screwed the contact fingers up (how
they did that I don't know...). Panduit kept the orange insert portion
for a while on the MiniCom 8X8 flat cap and the GigaJack that takes the
hinged tool to terminate. The last few rounds of GigaJacks I've got
in have all been white on the inside like the 6X6 flat cap MiniComs.
My guess is they weren't selling enough purple jacks. <g>

> Something else that *REALLY* grindles me... When we were
> pulling in the horizontal distribution it was made clear to
> everyone that voice & data cables had to be fully supported
> and could *NOT* lay on the ceiling grid or lighting fixtures.
> Then some low-bidder comes in behind us to put in the fire
> detection and security system and guess where their cables
> are? Pretty obvious too they've never had to deal with a
> splined ceiling grid system before either. (That part was
> almost comical)

Seems the Fire Marshall would have caught that and had them repull.

Speaking of security, the access control contracters came in after the
data/CATV was installed in the dorms, took over a third of the
backboards when we weren't looking, used our vertical conduits, and
then had the audacity to tell the head of Housing that the data cables
were causing interference and making their system flakey. Of course
our response was "we were here first, move *your* stuff". I guess it
wasn't *that* bad, they never moved anything... <g>
--
Roger Elmore
UTM Telecommunications
Anonymous
April 3, 2005 9:26:51 AM

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> BlueRinse wrote:
> Unfortunately true. And I'm married to the user
> I'm "supporting" !

Snap snap, grin grin, wink wink, nudge nudge, say no more...

--
Roger Elmore
UTM Telecommunications
Anonymous
April 3, 2005 1:42:09 PM

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In article <1112530817.491864.91760@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> "Roger
Elmore" <rrelmore@usa.net> writes:


>> Something else that *REALLY* grindles me... When we were
>> pulling in the horizontal distribution it was made clear to
>> everyone that voice & data cables had to be fully supported
>> and could *NOT* lay on the ceiling grid or lighting fixtures.
>> Then some low-bidder comes in behind us to put in the fire
>> detection and security system and guess where their cables
>> are? Pretty obvious too they've never had to deal with a
>> splined ceiling grid system before either. (That part was
>> almost comical)

>Seems the Fire Marshall would have caught that and had them repull.

That's one thing about a splined ceiling. Once closed up NOBODY ever wants
to re-open it ;-)
Anonymous
April 3, 2005 3:46:14 PM

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Great post, "Mitel", not just because you agree, either :) 

> You have to understand, the users are the same folks who today, even if
> their life depended on it, would have no earthly clue how to use their
> computer if someone stole their mouse.

Unfortunately true. And I'm married to the user I'm "supporting" !
Anonymous
April 6, 2005 5:04:51 AM

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"BlueRinse" <brinseM-newminuitLoseThis@sneakemail.com> wrote in message
news:p an.2005.03.29.14.47.41.94000@sneakemail.com...
> In order to make it easier to switch directly to POTS in case of a pbx
> failure, I need a hardware switch to connect one phone to two different
> sockets. Anyone have any experience with thiese?
>
> thx
Anonymous
April 16, 2005 9:28:23 PM

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"Marc H.Popek" <LVMarc@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:TAG4e.46245$cg1.38885@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> yes. the device you seek is right here
>
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5764...
> e=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&rd=1
>
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>
>
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> e=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&rd=1
>
> they move fast and provide the automatic switching you describe.
> 100% Ebay seller rating seller.
>
>
> "BlueRinse" <brinseM-newminuitLoseThis@sneakemail.com> wrote in message
> news:p an.2005.03.29.14.47.41.94000@sneakemail.com...
> > In order to make it easier to switch directly to POTS in case of a pbx
> > failure, I need a hardware switch to connect one phone to two different
> > sockets. Anyone have any experience with thiese?
> >
> > thx
>
>
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April 22, 2005 8:13:06 AM

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"Marc H.Popek" <LVMarc@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:XWb8e.82118$cg1.3100@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>
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> e=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&rd=1
> "Marc H.Popek" <LVMarc@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
> news:TAG4e.46245$cg1.38885@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> > yes. the device you seek is right here
> >
> >
>
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> > e=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&rd=1
> >
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> >
> >
>
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> > e=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&rd=1
> >
> > they move fast and provide the automatic switching you describe.
> > 100% Ebay seller rating seller.
> >
> >
> > "BlueRinse" <brinseM-newminuitLoseThis@sneakemail.com> wrote in message
> > news:p an.2005.03.29.14.47.41.94000@sneakemail.com...
> > > In order to make it easier to switch directly to POTS in case of a pbx
> > > failure, I need a hardware switch to connect one phone to two
different
> > > sockets. Anyone have any experience with thiese?
> > >
> > > thx
> >
> >
>
>
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April 26, 2005 6:51:42 PM

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"Marc H.Popek" <LVMarc@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:mR_9e.623279$w62.294640@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> COMBINE-A-LINE .. Imagine..1=2
>
>
> Ever wish you could use your favorite single-line telephone, answering
> machine, caller ID or PC Modem on TWO phone lines?.. Automatically?
>
> OR
>
> How about joining your VOIP port and the plain old (PSTN) telephone jack
> into a single handset?
>
> OR
>
> USE a CLT to join a card card acceptor and your single line telephone as
> well!
>
> OR
>
>
>
> see if anybody picks-up, on anotheer line trunk, after you are already in
a
> telco call???
>
> THEN...........................................
>
> Combine-A-Line (CLT) allows two separate calls from two different lines
to
> be directed to your single line telephone equipment or PC. Centralizing
and
> PROTECTING (SURGE PROTECTION INSIDE) your communication equipment for your
> home office or for the family.
>
> Combine-A-Line supports all services from your telephone company including
> Caller ID. It also has two line surge protectors to make sure that you are
> Protecting your equipment.
>
> Use combine-aline to automatically switch between VOIP and pots (rboc)
plain
> local line, hands free!.
>
> SECURITY of your calls are enhanced because the CLT displays if anybody
> picks -up the line after you are in a call! So, it has security features
> just in case someone is wire tapping or listens in after you are in a
call.
> The LED display will indicate any disruption to the line.
>
> Easy to use, No batteries or power supply, and no programming needed! Our
> re-sellers have reported that ..."elimination of the noisy and cumbersome
> power supply wires, reduces the Hum & Noise one hears then when connected
> to household power supplies"
>
> Automate and organize your telecommunications equipment and desktop wires
> with Combine-A-Line.
>
>
> USE BUY NOW and get FREE SHIPPING OPTION
>
> WOW FREE SHIPPING!
>
>
> Add a second CLT to your auction win for only 13.99.
>
> Reduced shipping on second unit... only $2.42 ... wow reduced shipping
>
> Link to instructional video
>
http://vincent.lemoine1.free.fr/tel2box/cut%20clt%206b%...
> ws%20media.wmv
>
> Answers from previous customers:
>
> A: this unit has many uses. it can combine two analog (regular plain
Jane
> telephone lines) into a common point. This allows you to create a dual
line
> telephone suite(telephone, answering. modem) etc for way less than the
cost
> of a two line phone and two line answering machines and modems don't
> commonly exist. Further, VOIP has become very popular and users gain
> tremendous long distance rates rates, however they don't have a "local
> presence" and often back up the voip with a single plain Jane telephone
> line. the clt will join voip and telco to a signal automatic port for the
> ultimate convience! Plus no power supply or batteries to clutter your
> desktop! Plus all port surge protected to protect you equipment! plus two
> additional universal (I/O) line 1 and line 2 dedicated ports... enabling
an
> even wider array of connection schemes.
>
> A: S&H outside CONUSA (48 USA states) costs more. The tariff diferene
> varies based on exact location. The range is about $1.00 to Canda and
> Mexico, and Hawaii. And is $3.00 to most of EU and Middle eastern
locations.
>
> A: In coming activity is automatically routed to the auto output port.
>
> A: Out bound activity is automatic. Users can mnaully re-direct any cal
and
> visually confirm which line is in use by observing the LED indication.
>
> A: The unit can be wired into a single telephone jack with the lines (four
> wire connectors) OR there are two additonal , inversal jacks that enable
> physical connnections to different phone access port. For example line 1
on
> a VOIP modem and line2 to your local Telco jack. The CLT can join any two
> lines and provide a single convient access point.
>
> A: The CLT does not require batteries or wall power supplies.
>
>
> "Marc H.Popek" <LVMarc@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
> news:XWb8e.82118$cg1.3100@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> >
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5768...
> > e=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&rd=1
> > "Marc H.Popek" <LVMarc@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
> > news:TAG4e.46245$cg1.38885@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> > > yes. the device you seek is right here
> > >
> > >
> >
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5764...
> > > e=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&rd=1
> > >
> > > and here
> > >
> > >
> >
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5765...
> > > e=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&rd=1
> > >
> > > they move fast and provide the automatic switching you describe.
> > > 100% Ebay seller rating seller.
> > >
> > >
> > > "BlueRinse" <brinseM-newminuitLoseThis@sneakemail.com> wrote in
message
> > > news:p an.2005.03.29.14.47.41.94000@sneakemail.com...
> > > > In order to make it easier to switch directly to POTS in case of a
pbx
> > > > failure, I need a hardware switch to connect one phone to two
> different
> > > > sockets. Anyone have any experience with thiese?
> > > >
> > > > thx
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
Anonymous
April 26, 2005 11:58:37 PM

Archived from groups: comp.dcom.voice-over-ip (More info?)

BlueRinse wrote:
> In order to make it easier to switch directly to POTS in case of a
> pbx failure, I need a hardware switch to connect one phone to two
> different sockets. Anyone have any experience with thiese?
>
> thx

What PBX are you using..? All the ones I've ever used switch each exchange
line directly to a designated extension in case of mains failure. My
current one has 4 lines and 12 extensions, the latter are numbered from
221 upwards. In the event of a power failure the first exchange line gets
connected to extension 221, the 2nd to 222 and so on.

Ivor
Anonymous
May 3, 2005 7:03:28 AM

Archived from groups: comp.dcom.voice-over-ip (More info?)

The CLT voip and POTS auto swith is right here!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5771...
e=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&rd=1

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5771...
e=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&rd=1




"Ivor Jones" <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote in message
news:3d7hb0F6tvgdgU1@individual.net...
> BlueRinse wrote:
> > In order to make it easier to switch directly to POTS in case of a
> > pbx failure, I need a hardware switch to connect one phone to two
> > different sockets. Anyone have any experience with thiese?
> >
> > thx
>
> What PBX are you using..? All the ones I've ever used switch each exchange
> line directly to a designated extension in case of mains failure. My
> current one has 4 lines and 12 extensions, the latter are numbered from
> 221 upwards. In the event of a power failure the first exchange line gets
> connected to extension 221, the 2nd to 222 and so on.
>
> Ivor
>
>
Anonymous
May 3, 2005 10:57:57 AM

Archived from groups: comp.dcom.voice-over-ip (More info?)

Marc H.Popek <LVMarc@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> The CLT voip and POTS auto swith is right here!
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5771...
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5771...

My friend tried to buy something from this guy and he cashed the check but
refused to deliver for 4 months. Finally he sent a box containing random
parts and cables but not anything like what was ordered. When my friend
wrote to him to complain, he received over 5000 copies of an obscene message
from Mark and finally had to close his email account because they kept
coming in.
Anonymous
May 3, 2005 5:11:26 PM

Archived from groups: comp.dcom.voice-over-ip (More info?)

"Miguel Cruz" <mnc@admin.u.nu> wrote in message
news:75CdnWcCqrPY-urfRVn-jw@speakeasy.net...
> Marc H.Popek <LVMarc@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> The CLT voip and POTS auto swith is right here!
>>
>> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5771...
>>
>> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5771...
>
> My friend tried to buy something from this guy and he cashed the check
> but
> refused to deliver for 4 months. Finally he sent a box containing random
> parts and cables but not anything like what was ordered. When my friend
> wrote to him to complain, he received over 5000 copies of an obscene
> message
> from Mark and finally had to close his email account because they kept
> coming in.

He's been in my killfile for months.

Ivor
Anonymous
May 23, 2005 8:36:51 AM

Archived from groups: comp.dcom.voice-over-ip (More info?)

These CLT units are back on ebay! New shippment has arrived!
They move fast.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5776...
e=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&rd=1

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5776...
e=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&rd=1



"Marc H.Popek" <LVMarc@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:4SBde.173889$cg1.111116@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> The CLT voip and POTS auto swith is right here!
>
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5771...
> e=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&rd=1
>
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5771...
> e=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&rd=1
>
>
>
>
> "Ivor Jones" <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote in message
> news:3d7hb0F6tvgdgU1@individual.net...
> > BlueRinse wrote:
> > > In order to make it easier to switch directly to POTS in case of a
> > > pbx failure, I need a hardware switch to connect one phone to two
> > > different sockets. Anyone have any experience with thiese?
> > >
> > > thx
> >
> > What PBX are you using..? All the ones I've ever used switch each
exchange
> > line directly to a designated extension in case of mains failure. My
> > current one has 4 lines and 12 extensions, the latter are numbered from
> > 221 upwards. In the event of a power failure the first exchange line
gets
> > connected to extension 221, the 2nd to 222 and so on.
> >
> > Ivor
> >
> >
>
>
!