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Trying to build a new computer, please give me advices

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June 17, 2006 10:10:12 AM

AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual-Core 3800+ 2.0GHz Socket 939

GeForce 7600 GT 256MB PCI-Express

512MB PC3200 DDR400 SDRAM X 2

XCLIO JR BLACK

LG GSA-H10A 16x Dual Layer

LANPARTY UT NF4 ULTRA-D

i want to know what kind of montior would suit my computer, what kind of ram i should buy and if you have any advices or any parts that will perform better at lower price please tell me
:D 
btw i live in nz and this is my first time building a computer, and i am a gamer and i play long hours say upto 12 to 15 hours every weekend?
my current graphics card got screwed and my computer is kind of old so im trying to get a new computer for myself and i am not intending to get sli
I am not quite sure if i can play nwn, rtw, oblivion or wow on this computer
cheers
June 17, 2006 1:13:15 PM

How much are you going to pay for the 3800+ X2?
its just that it seems its prices are like $285

I recommend one of either two things to you:

1) if you want Dual-Core, I highly recommend the Intel Pentium D 930
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=80851
930 D is only $177 on zipzoomfly.com and is about as fast or faster than 3800+ X2

2) as prozac says, go for a cheaper Athlon Single Core, like the 3500+ Venice
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=80717-5
at only $111, it's got great performance for its price

either choice, you save money and have more for graphics
i recommend in order most favored first:

eVGA 7900 GT KO
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814130016
ATi Radeon X1900 GT
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=321357
ATi 512MB Radeon X1800 XT
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=321969

if you want but a little cheaper get this version of eVGA 7900 GT KO
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814130015
June 17, 2006 10:09:20 PM

thanx guys

i take your advice and change my comp to

AMD Athlon 64 3500+ Socket AM2 2.2GHz 26
K9N NEO-F
XFX PV-T71G-UDER Geforce 7900GT 256MB Extreme PCI-E
TWINMOS DDR2 512MB PC2-5300 x 2

i should just leave the dvd out lol :lol: 

so anymore ideas about my computer? I am not quite sure if i chose the right motherboard
cheers
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June 17, 2006 10:39:25 PM

How many advices do you need?
June 18, 2006 4:26:35 AM

lol i just want to see if i have the right components thats all :D 
June 18, 2006 11:41:10 AM

According to MSI's site, K9N Neo-F N-Force550
works with AM2 3500+
Manufacturer's Site

• Supports 64-bit AMD® Sempron, Athlon™ 64 /Athlon 64 X2 processor (Socket AM2)
• Supports Sempron CPU: 3000+, 3200+, 3400+, 3500+, 3600+, 3800+
• Supports Athlon 64 CPU: 3500+, 3800+
• Supports Athlon 64 X2 CPU: 3800+, 4000+, 4200, 4400+, 4600+, 4800+, 5000+, 5200+[/url]

So, for hard drive, I'm assuming you're using an old one
June 18, 2006 12:43:54 PM

Now is the worst possible time to build a new computer.

Intel's Core 2 Duo will release soon, and will rock. I would strongly suggest that you wait for it.

Even if you hate Intel, there are other reasons to wait. There are reports of huge price cuts to the AMD Athlon 64 X2 processor line once Core 2 processors hit the market.

And, the prices of Pentium Ds are dropping like crazy, and I would expect them to somewhat stabilize by the end of July.

So, my advice would be to wait at least until the last week of July. Or you will find that new computers built for half your budget are better than yours...
June 18, 2006 1:32:13 PM

mjp1618, yes you are right

the prices of Pentium Ds ARE dropping like a mad man
almost at the rate of $1 a day!

pricings for Pentium D 930 right now is like $177 at quality resellers like newegg and zipzoomfly

i hear by around the time Conroe comes out, the 930 will stabilize pricing at around $155

however, there are some like me who can't wait and are getting a budget computer now, and will get a computer again at the time of Intel Yorkfield, a time of an unbugged polished Vista, the time where AMD will have their new architecture, the time of 8 cores and parallel processing (according to the roadmap)
June 18, 2006 2:12:14 PM

Hey guys i'm sort of confused even tough my question may sound crazy and i know that mobo and cpu socket must be the same



Can I put an AMD Athlon 64 x2 socket 939 on an Asus socket AM2?


Since AMD are expected to reduce it prices i'm willing to go for dual core instead for AMD Athlon 64


thanks
June 18, 2006 2:21:34 PM

Quote:
Hey guys i'm sort of confused even tough my question may sound crazy and i know that mobo and cpu socket must be the same



Can I put an AMD Athlon 64 x2 socket 939 on an Asus socket AM2?

No. 939 vs 940 pins, different layout. Wont work. I haven't heard of any hardmodding either so far.
For socket AM2 there are AM2 cpus. Should be the same price as s939
June 19, 2006 5:30:55 AM

okay guys thanks for helping me out :D 

i actually talked to a friend of mine who says wait until directx 10 comes out with all new generation of graphics cards.. im not quite sure when it is though
and i think i should wait for conroe to come out as well...
even though i am on athlon xp 1800 palomino with tnt graphics cards playing medieveal total war (laggy) :( 

cheers again
June 19, 2006 2:21:25 PM

Hey you're like me- I have a Pentium 1.6 Willamette system and I was gonna buy a new Pentium 930 D system yesterday but decided to wait until Conroe. My computer is a 4 year old OEM and so came with TNT2. I upgraded to Ti4600 and then eventually to Radeon 9800, I can play any game out there right now.
June 19, 2006 2:22:23 PM

Hey you're like me- I have a Pentium 1.6 Willamette system and I was gonna buy a new Pentium 930 D system yesterday but decided to wait until Conroe. My computer is a 4 year old OEM and so came with TNT2. I upgraded to Ti4600 and then eventually to Radeon 9800, I can play any game out there right now.
June 19, 2006 3:11:33 PM

I suggest you look at either an Asus, Gigabyte or MSI motherboard. I personally like Asus mobos and have never had any problems with them, and Asus packages everything you need. Just make sure it is compatible with the CPU and RAM you have selected.
June 20, 2006 1:26:47 AM

hey guys, i decided to wait lol

and until the time comes i might just stick with my computer

my main reason for thinking about a new computer is that it kinds of freezes in mid air sometimes and takes so long to start up

its like.. you start it up and then hangs and then says there was some problem with hardware and then after 30 seconds it restarts and then repeats the it over again i think it might be the motherboard ram or psu

i dunno, i might just switch rams while i wait or get some bigger psu which will be transferrable to my new computer when i buy it :D 

cheers
June 20, 2006 2:19:39 AM

going with the am2 is definately a better idea.
June 20, 2006 4:26:29 AM

yeah i think i should go for am2 but everything depends on conroe now, if it proves to be better than amd i i might go for it but i like amd nevertheless
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