Hi everyone,
I have a task from my boss, he wants me to quote a price of a computer used for weeks/months of computing. I heard thatn intel conroe is pretty fast. the budget should be somewhere around $2500. I am not an intel nor amd fan boy. I just need it for my work. Shold I go for intel conroe or amd2 FX62? And where I can get these cpus / are they out yet? Thanks.
Conroe E6600 outperforms FX-62 in everyting and costs 3 times less, generates half heat and spends half energy. FX-62 also requires more expencive RAM to give its best. There is no objective reason for buying FX-62.
There really is no question which chip is dominant. Anyone who tells you otherwise is a complete pathetic fanboy who is living in their own deluded world. Just look at the data and make the intelligent choice.
All tests performed with the same graphics cards, hard drives, memory, memory timings, and OS:
Thanks for the fast response. it seems conroe really is fast and recommended. Is it out yet? and where can I get it? On yahh one more thing, what are the chances this cpu catches on fire if I oc's it? Assuming the cooling system dies for no reason.....
This machine will be placed in my office. I dont think the system admin will let me to oc it but I will be persisten since this is not their PC. 2-3 days computation improvements, thats a huge benefit for my work. Thanks again for the super fast response.
Thanks for the info. I think I should have enought time until the released date. Once the proposal submitted and accepted, it will take some time for them to transfer the funds anyway. thanks for the patting/teasing....great response everyone.
Wise choice to wait... It has been a while since a CPU upgrade actually meant that you really will have enough performance to satisfy most for 2 to 3 years out... and not be starved for MHz...
Thanks for the info. I think I should have enought time until the released date. Once the proposal submitted and accepted, it will take some time for them to transfer the funds anyway. thanks for the patting/teasing....great response everyone.
Thanks for the info. I think I should have enought time until the released date. Once the proposal submitted and accepted, it will take some time for them to transfer the funds anyway. thanks for the patting/teasing....great response everyone.
Its not a good ideal to propose a yet unreleased technology. I would suggest waiting till the Core 2 Duo is out atleast 1 month and then do your own research. Your own research can then be used to justify your proposal and it should be research of a finished product.
At best your boss may ask for more research and at worst they go ahead with your proposal. Jobs have been lost for just this reason so back your self up with good research of a finished product.
By the way Apple will be comming out with its own Core 2 Duo system which, will run both Apple's OS and XP, giving your company more software choices.
Hi everyone,
I have a task from my boss, he wants me to quote a price of a computer used for weeks/months of computing. I heard thatn intel conroe is pretty fast. the budget should be somewhere around $2500. I am not an intel nor amd fan boy. I just need it for my work. Shold I go for intel conroe or amd2 FX62? And where I can get these cpus / are they out yet? Thanks.
The average "supposed authority" here would say that Core 2 is the way to go. I'm one of them for bragging rights. If you want a fast system, either one will work. The Core 2 IS faster but WHEN it's available maybe September for retail. PreBuilt systems will be available in the first week of July most likely. I'm sure Dell will outfit some of their models with it.
It's been awhile since ANYONE could recommend Intel over AMDs best but Core 2 changes that in benchmarks. My jury is till out on how it handles heavy use cases but for bragging rights as to the fastest benchmark perf, Core 2 is your best bet.
I'm on a 2-3 year upgrade schedule right now so I won't be buying AM2 or Core 2, but they are both ADEQUATE processors for modern workloads. The 5000+ looks much better though for the money since it has near-FX60 perf (some wins, some losses) and is $500 less.
Also, I just saw a Core 2 compat site (please don't ask for a link, I wouldn't lie) and it says that the Extreme 6800 isn't as compatible with existing mobos as the lower speed Core 2s. The Extreme is only supported by flashed 975X and 965 mobos.
I personally might opt for a 5000+ but that's because AMD was cheap when I needed them to be and their plaform is much more flexible than Intel's right now.
Conroe E6600 outperforms FX-62 in everyting and costs 3 times less, generates half heat and spends half energy. FX-62 also requires more expencive RAM to give its best. There is no objective reason for buying FX-62.
Especially when the 5000+ is right on it's heels for half the price and lower TDP. Believe me there are AMD choices vs. Conroe. Intel sold P4/PD for years being 1GHz inferior.
Conroe E6600 outperforms FX-62 in everyting and costs 3 times less, generates half heat and spends half energy. FX-62 also requires more expencive RAM to give its best. There is no objective reason for buying FX-62.
E6400 is performing better than 5000+. E6400 will cost $224 at same time when the 5000+ price will drop to $403 or the 5000+ costs 80% more than same performing or better, E6400. How is that competetive?
X2 4200+ will be 240$ and is outperformed by E6300, which will be $183.
The X2 4200+ will be outperformed by the Pentium D 945 too, and the D 945 will cost $163 only. Is this competetive?
Let's see, which one will be better Sempron 3000+ 1.6GHz 256kB L2 sAM2 or Precott 3.2GHz 256kB L2?
The Sempron 3000+ will costs 35% more than the CD346. Competition..huh?
Or maybe we should compare their overclocking abilities?
I consider to buy E6400 2.4GHz and overclock it at 3.2GHz or +33.3% using air cooling only. Do you think I can oveclock any K8 dualcore by +33.3% using air cooling?
Anyway the topic is about FX-62 compared to Conroe. E6400 matches FX-62 with SLI DDR2 performance. FX-62 is 3 times more expencive than the E6400. That is so uncompetetive!
Conroe E6600 outperforms FX-62 in everyting and costs 3 times less, generates half heat and spends half energy. FX-62 also requires more expencive RAM to give its best. There is no objective reason for buying FX-62.
E6400 is performing better than 5000+. E6400 will cost $224 at same time when the 5000+ price will drop to $403 or the 5000+ costs 80% more than same performing or better, E6400. How is that competetive?
X2 4200+ will be 240$ and is outperformed by E6300, which will be $183.
The X2 4200+ will be outperformed by the Pentium D 945 too, and the D 945 will cost $163 only. Is this competetive?
Let's see, which one will be better Sempron 3000+ 1.6GHz 256kB L2 sAM2 or Precott 3.2GHz 256kB L2?
The Sempron 3000+ will costs 35% more than the CD346. Competition..huh?
Or maybe we should compare their overclocking abilities?
I consider to buy E6400 2.4GHz and overclock it at 3.2GHz or +33.3% using air cooling only. Do you think I can oveclock any K8 dualcore by +33.3% using air cooling?
Anyway the topic is about FX-62 compared to Conroe. E6400 matches FX-62 with SLI DDR2 performance. FX-62 is 3 times more expencive than the E6400. That is so uncompetetive!
It's scary that you actually compiled this list, but...
I already admitted that the Extreme is better than the FX62 at the SAME PRICE POINT. I would compare the 6700 to the 5000+ and that's a win for Core 2 but not a total blowout. We'll have to see what the price of Core 2 systems is before we say there's a "changing of the guard." Before 65nm Intel was being dragged around like they wre Cyrix.
5000+ and 4800+ are going to be hard to pass up for people who don't know what 4 issue, single cycle SSE means. We're talking about people who are inBest Buy for a new college student system or XMas present. Retailers are responding to the sales of AMD systems and those stores are packed with them. I'll check out a couple next weekend to see if AM2 systems are popping up.
As far as the future, AMDs strategy could allow them to widen K8 to L, M, etc. as they shrink the process. 45nm would actually fit 4 FPUs wher 65nm is scheduled for 2.
Intel's next architecture is set for 2008 and keeping to that improvements in AM2/K8L would cause Intel tostart the clock speed war again - if these improvements translate to an estimated 40% over current Revs.
Pass the pumpernickel... 