Which AMD 64 CPU after Conroe Price Drop?

[deusex]

After the Conroe's out, (apparently on July 23/24), I ' m thinking of getting a new CPU, since the budget cuts are out that day , should I get a 3800+, 3800+X2, or a 4000+? (my former choice was a 3700+, like 3 months ago, SAND DIEGO core)

my future rig: (1500$)

CPU
7900 GT CO 256 MB eVGA (500/1500)
2 GB of 3-3-3-8 Corsair XMS Ram (should i go for 2-3-3-6?)
Asus A8N-E MOBO
Cooler MAster Cavalier 3 case
160 GB SATA 2 NCQ Seagate HD

open to any suggestions ! especially CPU ones

 

[theaxemaster]

Get the fastest one whose clock frequency is divisible by 400 MHz.

 

[gOJDO]

After the Conroe's out

just buy it. there would be no K8 performance/price competetive to Conroe.

 

[1Tanker]

Get the fastest one whose clock frequency is divisible by 400 MHz.

If you're referring to the uneven multiplier chips, that only pertains to AM2, because of the new DDR2 compatable IMC.

 

[mjp1618]

Maybe it is just a gift to Sharikou...

 

[BaronMatrix]

After the Conroe's out

just buy it. there would be no K8 performance/price competetive to Conroe.

Seems like a sad waste of money doesn't it .... to each their own.



You mean like every P4 for the last 3 years? :roll:

 

[TechnologyCoordinator]

Go dual core, that's the future for both hardware, and hopefully very soon software as well.

 

[deusex]

My Choices:

INTEL: CONROE (E6600?)



AMD: 3800+ Venice

3800+X2 Manchester

4000+ San Diego


WHICH ONE?

 

[BaronMatrix]

My Choices:

INTEL: CONROE (E6600?)



AMD: 3800+ Venice

3800+X2 Manchester

4000+ San Diego


WHICH ONE?

if you're jsut upgrading I would go for the X2 3800+. The core 2 is faster, but requires new EVERYTHING if comign from 939.

 

[MG37221]

Tough call. Will you be looking at AM2 or 939 processors? I realize you've specified a 939 MB but things can change.

If 939, I'd recommend at least a 4200 for gaming and quite possibly the 4600. These since the 4400 and 4800 won't be among the price drops. The extra cache really does help most games if in few other applications.

The X2 3800 is a sweet CPU but at 2GHz, it isn't too quick. But I still recommend dual core exclusively. You will see a nice difference as it's all about smooth computing.

The 4200 should be quick enough for any current game you throw at it, whereas the 4600, at 2.4GHz will be remarkably quicker. Possibly overkill speed-wise but once you have it, you won't be thinking that at all. You'll be thinking "Sweet!!"

If socket AM2, go for the 5000. With the high latencies in DDR2, it can almost keep up with the 939 4800 in most things though memory reads/writes are too inconsistent to really judge. DDR2 needs lots of CPU cycles before it really benefits the user over DDR.

 

[deusex]

Soooooooooo, should I go dual core?

if yes, then conroe and X2s

if not, then 4000+'s in

 

[deusex]

And i dont think i'll actually go for am2, if i want ddr2, then proabably conroe, if not, then 939...

 

[deusex]

Wait, is am2 really better than 939? - it's slower, but ddr2 is the only advantage...

 

[-Dctrprks-]

Tough call. Will you be looking at AM2 or 939 processors? I realize you've specified a 939 MB but things can change.

If 939, I'd recommend at least a 4200 for gaming and quite possibly the 4600. These since the 4400 and 4800 won't be among the price drops. The extra cache really does help most games if in few other applications.
Hey MG, man that sounds interesting....how'd you know that the 4800-4400's wont be among the costcutter's????? How bout the fx60? Hummm. Can't wait to hear from ya. I been waitin on the 4800 to drop, is it in vain?

The X2 3800 is a sweet CPU but at 2GHz, it isn't too quick. But I still recommend dual core exclusively. You will see a nice difference as it's all about smooth computing.

The 4200 should be quick enough for any current game you throw at it, whereas the 4600, at 2.4GHz will be remarkably quicker. Possibly overkill speed-wise but once you have it, you won't be thinking that at all. You'll be thinking "Sweet!!"

If socket AM2, go for the 5000. With the high latencies in DDR2, it can almost keep up with the 939 4800 in most things though memory reads/writes are too inconsistent to really judge. DDR2 needs lots of CPU cycles before it really benefits the user over DDR.

 

[-Dctrprks-]

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Tough call. Will you be looking at AM2 or 939 processors? I realize you've specified a 939 MB but things can change.

If 939, I'd recommend at least a 4200 for gaming and quite possibly the 4600. These since the 4400 and 4800 won't be among the price drops. The extra cache really does help most games if in few other applications.
Hey MG, man that sounds interesting....how'd you know that the 4800-4400's wont be among the costcutter's????? How bout the fx60? Hummm. Can't wait to hear from ya. I been waitin on the 4800 to drop, is it in vain?

The X2 3800 is a sweet CPU but at 2GHz, it isn't too quick. But I still recommend dual core exclusively. You will see a nice difference as it's all about smooth computing.

The 4200 should be quick enough for any current game you throw at it, whereas the 4600, at 2.4GHz will be remarkably quicker. Possibly overkill speed-wise but once you have it, you won't be thinking that at all. You'll be thinking "Sweet!!"

If socket AM2, go for the 5000. With the high latencies in DDR2, it can almost keep up with the 939 4800 in most things though memory reads/writes are too inconsistent to really judge. DDR2 needs lots of CPU cycles before it really benefits the user over DDR. Ewwh... hay MG, how'd ya know that the 4800 and 4400's wont be among the costcutters? I'd be interested in knowing myself, since I'm holding up my build for the 4800 to drop.....Hmmmmmmmmhow bout the FX60? TY

 

[Ycon]

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[MG37221]

Tough call. Will you be looking at AM2 or 939 processors? I realize you've specified a 939 MB but things can change.

If 939, I'd recommend at least a 4200 for gaming and quite possibly the 4600. These since the 4400 and 4800 won't be among the price drops. The extra cache really does help most games if in few other applications.
Hey MG, man that sounds interesting....how'd you know that the 4800-4400's wont be among the costcutter's????? How bout the fx60? Hummm. Can't wait to hear from ya. I been waitin on the 4800 to drop, is it in vain?

The X2 3800 is a sweet CPU but at 2GHz, it isn't too quick. But I still recommend dual core exclusively. You will see a nice difference as it's all about smooth computing.

The 4200 should be quick enough for any current game you throw at it, whereas the 4600, at 2.4GHz will be remarkably quicker. Possibly overkill speed-wise but once you have it, you won't be thinking that at all. You'll be thinking "Sweet!!"

If socket AM2, go for the 5000. With the high latencies in DDR2, it can almost keep up with the 939 4800 in most things though memory reads/writes are too inconsistent to really judge. DDR2 needs lots of CPU cycles before it really benefits the user over DDR. Ewwh... hay MG, how'd ya know that the 4800 and 4400's wont be among the costcutters? I'd be interested in knowing myself, since I'm holding up my build for the 4800 to drop.....Hmmmmmmmmhow bout the FX60? TY

No Toledo Cores were on their price cut list. Toledo's are going to be phased out. There won't be any AM2s with 1MB cache per core either. They're no longer on any sites for purchase either. It's a cost saving plan for AMD. All fabs can concentrate on making chips from the same die and more procs per wafer.

I'm looking very seriously at the FX-60 myself. Prices have recently dropped around $300 though at $800 it's still extremely expensive. But read some reviews and... Oh so tempting!

 

[gOJDO]

After the Conroe's out

just buy it. there would be no K8 performance/price competetive to Conroe.

Seems like a sad waste of money doesn't it .... to each their own.



You mean like every P4 for the last 3 years? :roll:
exactly.
When Core2 comes, K8 will be money waste like P4 and Core2 will be money save like K8.

 

[Fagaru]

if u get an x2, wait, if u get a single core, go and get them, they have already gotten their price cuts, unless theres another one around the corner, an example is the 3800 venice, it was 300 a month ago, now its 150 on newegg.com

 

[MG37221]

if u get an x2, wait, if u get a single core, go and get them, they have already gotten their price cuts, unless theres another one around the corner, an example is the 3800 venice, it was 300 a month ago, now its 150 on newegg.com

By all means get what you want. I would recommend dual-core. I also will say that fast enough is just that, fast enough. Conroe will be new, expensive and possibly not able to live up to the hype. Maybe it will. Nobody knows until you can buy one. Until then, Conroe is a non-product.

The 4000+ is a really nice CPU. The 4800 is two 4000s. You do the math

 

[sektor]

I was just thinking about starting a similar thread.

I too was in the same boat and was going to buy new parts to build a new rig, mostly for gaming (70%) and the rest for the wife.

Then I heard about Conroe.
Then I started to think, what if the chips are delayed? I can't wait til September because my current computer is dying and will die soon.

Reading this thread has provided some insight as well as more questions:

Lets say I couldn't get a Conroe chip, for whatever reasons.

Is the concensus that it would be best to get a Dual Core CPU? I am hoping that AMD drops the price through the floor so I can get a really good deal on CPU and MOBO.

If one were to pick a current CPU they would put in a gaming rig, which would it be?

lastly, anyone have a link or idea on what the price cuts will be on AMD chips?

Great stuff.

Sektor

 

[deusex]

to sektor, thanks for empathizing - my laptop's going slow right now too.

the price cuts: http://dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=2800

boo yah - like by 50%!!!!!

 

[deusex]

Oh, and you guys helping me a lot out there? I'm still pretty young (cough what's High School?, never heard of it.. cough), so thanks for all the help, and keep them coming!!!

 

[deusex]

soooo, Is the 4000+ San Diego faster or slower than the 3800+ X2 manchester?

 

[sex_monkey]

depends what for mate,the 4000 is great for games at the moment,the x2 is brilliant for multitasking and work stuff,the x2 3800 overclocks well and i think it would be a bit silly to get a single core cpu. the difference between single and multi core in games is not a huge amount. ask yourself what your planning to do with this pc of yours i feel like saying dual core is more future proof