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Which is best PC speakers

Total: 22 votes

  • Klipsch promedia 5.1 ultra
  • 23 %
  • Logitech 5500
  • 50 %
  • Creative Labs S750
  • 28 %
June 22, 2006 3:32:21 AM

I currently have an Logitech Z640, not too long ago upgraded my pc monitor to a sony fw900 24in crt, I just got my new sound card a Sound Blaster X-FI platinum wich I have not installed yet, still in box waiting to get new speakers. The current speakers are not up to par with such a nice screen I just got. I got the video now I need the audio. I want better more clearer and powerfull sound. My options are.

Logitech 5500 $250
Klipsch Promedia 5.1 ultra 5.1 $300
Creative Labs (cambridge sound works) S750 $300 after $100 Mail In Rebate

I hear the klipsch have awesome sound, haven't jumped on one since there's so many stories about the subwoofer having a tendency of Dying. I have listened to the 5500 but the store didn't have neither of the other speakers I liked for testing. My boss has the S750, just tested a movie that I brought in, kung fu hustle it sounded really good, for some reason i felt the maximum volume would have been nice if they could have gone a bit louder. Building my own system would have been nice but it be really stretching the budget bacause just getting a good sub will run at least $200, and any decent receiver starts at $200, then you still need speakers.
My uses will be Mostly gaming, movies and small percentage to listening music. My thoughts on the speakers, I am not a big fan of the S750 control pad, a bit primitive using buttons instead of knobs, the subwoofer is powerfull, you could feel the lightining in the movie, in some fighting parts you could feel the air blowing out of the sub, the had it under the desk. Honestly I have not tried the klipsch promedia 5.1 ultra, only the 2.1 set wich sounded really good, liked the responsive sub. I listened to the 5500 and I cannot judge it well since it was only connected to hiphop music, I did noticed the sub and the center channel had a tendency of overpowering the satelites, the set did go loud. I am looking forward to your responses and thanks for posting.

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June 22, 2006 9:06:09 AM

I'd say go with either the Klipsch or the Logitechs. I've heard about the Klipsch subs dying and the connections to the satellites not being very durable.

With that in mind, if those 3 were my choices I'd likely go for the Logitech's (and get a descent extended warranty, if I could).
June 22, 2006 9:11:37 AM

Creative S750 if you want better sats.

Klipschs if you want a better sub.

Logitech if...you like the look.

As for the movie sounding weak, this is just simple physics. Small satellites have very low sensitivity and cannot produce good volume on a uncompressed/high dynamic range source. You can keep feeding more and more power but you hit a steep wall from power compression.

If you want something with good dispersion properties and can get loud and accurate with low distortion, you should look at bookshelves or floorstanders rather than computer speakers. For highly compressed sources with a very low range of output frequencies like mp3s or gaming sound, it's easier to hit higher volumes. For a small room, you can reinforce the volume of your computer satellites theoretically by 30% by putting them near corners or the wall if you find the volume weak.
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June 22, 2006 11:38:47 PM

Too bad you can't have the control pannel of the logitech, the sub of the klipsch and the sats of the S750, I don't wanna spends on a bookshelf/receiver combo because I'm also buying a new receiver for my house, the old ones junk, I am going for a denon 2807, and I'm going with my friend to the cambridge sound works outlet, they always have a clearance sale once a month. As for the logitech's they are on nice set of speakers but I am not a fan of the look of the single drive speaker that looks like a cone, Do you guys think is true that klipsch still has a design problems in the promedia ultra's 5.1? I just wanna invest in a really good set of speaker's so I can watch movies and play games. I am not worried about codecs wich is the logitech's 5500 strong point, I am gonna use the sound card and will not strap any of the speakers to x-box ps2, dvd ect, that's why I'm getting a receiver. I want the best quality audio without complications.
June 23, 2006 2:07:19 AM

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Do you guys think is true that klipsch still has a design problems in the promedia ultra's 5.1?


I'm sure Klipsch has fixed it (as well as they can). But you'd have to buy it directly from them. Anytime you buy retail or from a online storage, obviously the risk of getting old stock is high.

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Too bad you can't have the control pannel of the logitech, the sub of the klipsch and the sats of the S750


The control panel is just an input decoder. You can put together a klipsch/soundworks system off of parts from ebay and even throw in a decoder if you want. Then again, you could do much better than PC speakers aka "transistor radios" if you are willing to cobble something together.
June 23, 2006 2:47:30 AM

I wen't to klipsch site, they want $350 for em, zipzoomfly has em for $300 but are backordered means new stock. Anyways wich system would you get from the listed above?
June 23, 2006 5:05:55 AM

I would get the S750 probably as Klipsch satellites are a bit uneven upper response with their horn tweeters, though you do give up a little bit of the sub quality for a mix of games (7.1) and music (stereo). For movies I probably wouldn't get any of them.

The poll results are pretty funny, but not surprising.
June 23, 2006 10:10:38 PM

Gonna test my old receiver directly with the sound card, but I still wan't a stand alone setup because I'm already gonna inverst in a receiver for the tv. I like the sound control of the logitech but I think the S750 sounds a bit cleaner, I wish they would update the speaker line, we haven't seen anything new pc speaker-wise in years. By now they should have had reference speakers and close to 700watts.
June 23, 2006 10:43:53 PM

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well since i own them i say get the s750's. sure the control pod sucks but i get used to it. also note the settings get reset when you switch the power completely off and also resets when you you switch it on sometimes for no reason although they might have fixed that by now.

the bass could be better as it doesn't go as low or sound as clear as i would like but for games it rocks. just get the creative you know you want to.


Only thing that draws me away from the 5500 is that if you remove the face off the center speaker it looks like a metal boob in the center of the speaker, If there was two id feel better but one looks funny. So do you ever shut off your S750 I hear it sucks a lotta juice when it's idle.
June 23, 2006 10:47:21 PM

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i sometimes put them in standby when not using them. then again everything in my comp draws alot of power so whats a little more.


If you where to buy a new set all over again would you still have gotten the S750?
June 23, 2006 10:47:51 PM

id go for logitech ive got the z680's and i know thay are loud as they make my house shake
June 24, 2006 2:56:33 AM

Looks like nobody likes the klipsch'es Here's an interesting question when the 5500 are turned off does all the setting reset or stay same, and will unplugging it reset setting? Would the sub be better of the s750 or the 5500. Looks like S750 and 5500 are neck to neck.
June 24, 2006 10:59:50 PM

I think I'm leaning towards the S750 because they have the best sats, I live in a medium apartmend and don't wanna set up the sub too aggresively and piss off the neighborgs. My other idea was I am getting a new receiver for the tv, maybe also hook it up to the pc sound card and use it as zone 2
June 24, 2006 11:47:24 PM

I have Z-5450, very similar to 5500 but with wireless rear sats.

I'm very happy with them, the sub is cool and so is the control box. The sats are ok, but if you are really fussy you could buy a couple of higher end bookshelf speakers for the front left and right channels to add a bit more width to the stereo image.
June 25, 2006 12:03:38 AM

Looks like the tables are turning, 5500 is leaning on the heavy side. Klipsch gow owned big time. I might get the new receiver tomorrow gonna experiment. What makes it tougher is that the S750 used to cost $100 more now that theyre on sale for $300 and the Logitech for $260 (went up) shipped it puts them close enough in price range. Honestly technology is advancing but somehow speaker audio technology has slowed down. HeadPhone are the best option out there but with theyr high price just to get in the market, the hassle of having to be wired to the pc limits some of your mobility and that most ppl seem to like to play louder thus slowly deteriorating theyr hearing.
June 25, 2006 1:05:27 AM

I have the 5500's, I'd considered the klipsche and other alternatives and ended up with these. But I have to say I didn't regret it one bit... I've had people run into my room from across the house shouting "WHAT THE HELL WAS THAT??!".

Not only do these sound fantastic as far as I am concerned, but they are very connectable and the control panel/decoder box is great. They hook up via a 2m toslink optical cable to the front panel of my Audigy 2. My laptop uses coaxial digital. I can verify that the logitechs do store settings when off: volume levels for the whole system, sub, centre and rear satellites, the input and effects selected and their settings.

Wow, I'm really plugging these things... well I have to say my experience with the other systems is limited at best. I don't care! Swinging these into Boost and watching the sub's bass reflex port eat my trousers is fantastic. These have also made a member of my family feel sick after standing in the room when some heavy drum n' bass was playing.

The 'boobs' are polished aluminium phase plugs. Pretty much there for helping the sound ease out right and also for cooling the coils inside a little. If you ask me, they look nice. :) 
June 25, 2006 1:06:12 AM

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well since i own them i say get the s750's. sure the control pod sucks but i get used to it. also note the settings get reset when you switch the power completely off and also resets when you you switch it on sometimes for no reason although they might have fixed that by now.

the bass could be better as it doesn't go as low or sound as clear as i would like but for games it rocks. just get the creative you know you want to.


"the control pod sucks but i get used to it" --> Agree put as you said you get used to it

"the bass could be better as it doesn't go as low or sound as clear as i would like but for games it rocks" --> 8O That's the funniest thing i have ever heard :lol:  :lol: 

Go for the s750 they are awesome! I have them for more than 3 months and i am very happy.

p.s. With all that bass you get you will have to lower it from the settings or from the control pod :wink:
June 25, 2006 1:38:56 AM

Is that lowered for your own listening pleasure or for the comfort of those around you? :)  That control pod seems a little lax in features... the S750's are more powerful than the logitech 5500's by a margin but would you hear the difference? The amplifier in the 5500's is actually overrated for the speakers it connects to explaining the Boost function somewhat) and a peak output power of 1010 watts RMS. There is some serious sound to be enjoyed there! I shall be biased and recommend the 5500's...
June 25, 2006 1:39:59 AM

I bought Klipsch Promedia 4.1 maybe in like... 2002? 2001? maybe 2000

And boy are they great. I ended up taking apart the amp (easy) and removing the two subwoofers and just running monster cable out of the amp to a Bassworx ported box with a 12" Rockford Fosgate Punch 3 (2005) subwoofer. The system stays cool and doesn't give me any problems.

BUT

I did have one problem... after a year the control pod went a bit wonky and I hear static when i turn the volume up and down. But once the volume is at a loud as hell listening level I can go back to cranking up the bass boost and running around with a shotgun in CSS :) 

I would recommend Klipsch for sure!
June 25, 2006 1:47:58 AM

What was making me lean towards the S750 was the sats, and the 5500 the control pad, it feels like being at a candy store each one has a unique taste. Does the subwoofer of the S750 make the floor vibrate when in low use, I ask this because I noticed the it's aiming towards the floor and then has side port, Logitech has the intimidating side firing single drive that looks intimidating 10in drive with a 12in grill. Keep posting your comments, thank you.
June 25, 2006 4:29:41 AM

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id go for logitech ive got the z680's and i know thay are loud as they make my house shake


But...Bose is better.

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the S750's are more powerful than the logitech 5500's by a margin but would you hear the difference?


I'm fairly sure a pair of bookshelves will go louder and with less distortion using 10W of clean power. Power ratings mean nothing if you don't know the sensitivities of the speakers in question. Not to mention, I PC speaker wattage is highly overrated as most of it goes to the subwoofer, which is why max SPLs dont look very impressive.

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peak output power of 1010 watts RMS.


I think peak output RMS is an oxymoron.
June 25, 2006 8:48:05 AM

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Looks like the tables are turning, 5500 is leaning on the heavy side. Klipsch gow owned big time. I might get the new receiver tomorrow gonna experiment. What makes it tougher is that the S750 used to cost $100 more now that theyre on sale for $300 and the Logitech for $260 (went up) shipped it puts them close enough in price range. Honestly technology is advancing but somehow speaker audio technology has slowed down. HeadPhone are the best option out there but with theyr high price just to get in the market, the hassle of having to be wired to the pc limits some of your mobility and that most ppl seem to like to play louder thus slowly deteriorating theyr hearing.


Headphones can be nice and you don't have to spend too much to get really good sound. Using a descent pair of cans and a little headphone amp will totally take you there. I spent $400 on the set but its easy to catch upgrade-itis but I'm happy enough.

I understand that most people do listen to their cans too loudly that's a shame. Here's a tip. If you're listening and you can't hear yourself when speaking at a normal volume you're listening too loudly, and therefore risking hearing damage and Tinnitus.
June 25, 2006 11:58:51 AM

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the S750's are more powerful than the logitech 5500's by a margin but would you hear the difference?


I'm fairly sure a pair of bookshelves will go louder and with less distortion using 10W of clean power. Power ratings mean nothing if you don't know the sensitivities of the speakers in question. Not to mention, I PC speaker wattage is highly overrated as most of it goes to the subwoofer, which is why max SPLs dont look very impressive.


If that's the case, I've yet to see these bookshelves. A loudspeaker can only move so much air based on its surface area and throw distance. The drivers in the Logitechs are highly efficient, I know that much, the satellites housings are all ported for faster airflow and probably overall more pushing power. Max SPL for the thing as a whole is >115dB according to Logitech's website. The subwoofer in the Logitech's case is well balanced for wattage coming in at 188watts RMS, with the satellites totalling about 317watts or about 62ish per unit, 69 center. It's probably more likely to be a bad combination of frequency response or selected crossover frequency that would make such a combination sound bad, but that's not the case here either, as they sound fantastic and they sound fantastic incredibly, incredibly loud, and in my experience with zero distortion even when entering boost.

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Does the subwoofer of the S750 make the floor vibrate when in low use, I ask this because I noticed the it's aiming towards the floor and then has side port, Logitech has the intimidating side firing single drive that looks intimidating 10in drive with a 12in grill. Keep posting your comments, thank you.


Can't vouch for the S750, but I'd assume a definite yes! But it's the same case for the Logitechs as well, probably all these speakers. Perhaps it's less intense, but I'd say the vibrations in the room as a whole are what is more likely to be transmitted through floors than just the air the sub is firing initially. You could always stick the sub face-down and compare it ;)  or put the S750's sub on it's side... heheh.
June 25, 2006 1:50:36 PM

Logitech Speaker X-530 5.1 / 70 W RMS Retail

Technical Specifications

Total RMS power: 70 watts RMS
Satellites: 45 watts RMS (2 x 7.4 watts front, 15.5 watts center, 2 x 7.4 watts rear)
Subwoofer: 25 watts RMS
Total peak power: 140 watts
Frequency response: 40Hz - 20kHz


Logitech® Z-5500 Digital

Product Specifications

Total RMS power: 505 watts RMS
Satellites: 317 watts RMS (2 x 62 W front, 2 x 62 rear, 69 W center)
Subwoofer: 188 watts RMS
Total Peak power: 1010 watts
Maximum SPL: >115 dB
Frequency response: 33 Hz — 20 kHz
Amplifier: Ultra-linear, high-capacity analog
Signal to noise ratio: >93.5 dB, typical 100
Input impedance: 8,000 ohms


Don.t think so.... :?
June 25, 2006 2:38:51 PM

Those are the X-530's, the Z5300's are as follows:

100 watts subwoofer
180 watts from the satellites (2 x 35.25W front, 2 x 35.25W rear, 39W center) for a total of 280 watts.

It's still half the power though, but I know for a fact they sound nice too (perhaps a little boomy, like there could be more punch and less reverberation, but that could be an isolated case)
June 25, 2006 2:51:02 PM

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Bose isn't better. Bose is retarded. Nobody that knows anything about audio ever buys bose.

But, really, have you thought about the Z5300's? they're damn near as loud as the 5500's its just that they don't have the built in digital decoder. But since most of us have decent sound cards like the xfi, and audigy2, etc, those cards have the built in decoders anyways, so the one in the logitechs is kinda pointless and a waste of the extra money. the 5300's btw are also about half the cost of the 55's.


Price difference at this point is minimal between 5300, and 5500 and I like the big shiny knob of the 5500 with the clean cut lcd.

If it doesen't have Highs or Lows it must be Bose. LOL. Bose is a good system but not the best, it's overpriced. Those systems are designed for ppl who are too lazy to know what good sound so Bose basically says this is sound you lisen, you will like, YA, give me lots of money I tell you everything you wanna hear.
June 25, 2006 2:59:08 PM

I've got a set of Klipsch 5.1 THX speakers and I love them. The sound is superb. The only problem I've had is when the cat bit through a speaker lead.
June 25, 2006 3:20:30 PM

If you got a crt he probably hops on top of it an takes a nap. Did he get shocked?
June 25, 2006 4:19:29 PM

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make your own call,there are 3 factors,the fourth bieng cost.
1.durability/dependability.
2.frequency range.
3.flat response(the flatter the truer).speakers with response curves have a natural eq that can muddy the sound and be hard to eq out ,if not impossible.
the creative setup has a decent overall rating,and a dependability reputation that is very good.i have seen the specs on that setup and they arent too bad,considering flat response monitors can cost over one grand a piece.
fyi.20hz t0 20khz is considered full spectrum to many,the human ear cannot hear at those ends ,but we can sense overtones.
women repond to bass at 30- 35 hz,according to playboy magazine in 2001 june edition i think. :wink: the nature o fthat response i cannot type here;suffice it to say ,thats probably why women love to dance.


That means Klipsch is outta the picture, Logitech is the most dependable and S750 has more range in the spectrum. So this mean Logitech will last a good while but the S750 will get me all the girls, lol I was joking about last part. I wan't to use this mostly for gaming and movies, I wanna be able to have low volumes and be able to hear voices clearly, sometimes my job allows me to get late home and I have to play at nite. I don't want speakers because I would probably strain my ears more and have my hearing last less time due to the drivers blasting so close to ear. This is such a tough desition. I might pick up my new receiver for the tv gonna might experiment using it on the pc and 4 guetto sony speakers.
June 25, 2006 7:39:57 PM

How many of you have actually heard the Bose 901's? How many of you have heard the Bose Companion 3's? How can someone say the Logitech X-530's and Z5XXX sounds good but Bose is trash? Where are you guys when you're doing your listening sessions and making these comparisons? That's like saying a McDonald's Big Mac is bad for you while you're eating a Burger King Whopper.

Next you'll be saying Martin-Logan sux and Polk rocks. Of course, everyone is entitled to their opinion.
June 25, 2006 8:06:37 PM

I infer that you're directing that at the kids above? Bose is by no means the best or worse, but they're as cheap as everything else in the price range. If you're looking for serious sound you'll likely not be looking @ any PC speakers.

I like the BC3's for these reasons:

1) I like the sound, the set I have has plenty of bass, descent mids, and descent highs (a little too sharp on the highs, but these are cheap PC speakers so I won't complain

2) Visually, they're almost invisible. For its size it puts out great sound. No, the sub doesn't sound like it's 12"X12"X12", but for its size it does just fine. If that's distortion its putting out then they've found a way to make distortion sound like sub-bass radiation and I don't mind.

3) For 2.1's at its price the only thing that compares (PC speaker wise, not monitors) are the Klipsch ProMedia. ..and I read to many negative reviews on the build quality to consider that.

When I listen to my Senn's + TBH and I do realize that the Bose are exaggerating the bass a bit, but again, I've got the above reasons. Bose speakers are a different animal, but again, anyone serious about sound likely isn't looking to Bose or Logitech. I'm not knocking anyone's set, we'll each like what we like for the reasons we like.
June 25, 2006 8:19:40 PM

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have you checked out any of tomes reviews. i know they have one of the s750's. the toms ones are good as they do frequency response tests.

its abit old but it review them as well as the z5300'shttp://www.tomshardware.co.uk/2003/12/22/high/

i ain't sure if the other 2 have been reviewed.


I see you have the S750s. Where do u put all those speakers?
What's your layout - distance/position?

If I put them close together, it's such a waste.
June 25, 2006 8:20:22 PM

Specs are important. ...but I didn't buy the Bose because what the paper said they could do or what the paper said they'd sound like. I went listened to them, the ProMedia's, some Logitech's (X-530 and Z5500), Harmon Kardon's, and Altec Lansing's. When I connected my iPod to them and listened to my references, I preferred the way the Bose sounded to me.

I know my approach may have been...well...stupid, but I didn't look @ their specs, I just went with them based on how Wax Tailor, Led Zeppelin, and Orbital sounded as opposed to the others. Again, everyone's got their own approach. Since everyone offered their opinions I offered mine.
June 25, 2006 8:27:27 PM

I have a Bose system in my car I love it, came with the car but I think lexus Marks Levinson system is better. Bose is really good just a bit overhyped you are paying top dollar for something that you can get for less anywhere else. Overall I have listened to the Bose system the 2.1 sounds a bit better than then klipsch satelite wise but the sub of the kilpsch is superior. For the $$ is not a bad system, thats all.
June 25, 2006 8:37:45 PM

You're missing my point.

I like the BC3's because I like how they reproduce the music I like and their size.

I know they don't sound like high-end speakers. ...but for $200 I don't expect them to. They're a compromise that I like. If I didn't want a compromise I'd have paid more for the Klipsch iFi's (highly recommended for 2.1s).

Bose doesn't release numbers because they believe in smoke+mirrors to achieve sound that some may think is pleasing. We all know that. Kinda like the X-Fi's 24bit crystalizer (which is not terrible as long as you realize what it is and what its not).

I auditioned the Bose TriPort headphones...and that made me realize that I was going to have to spend $$ for a descent set of headphones...that were not the TriPorts. ...but I still like the way the BC3's sound and since they're inexpensive and small, they're keepers for me.

I'm quite sure I could find a positive review of them, if that's what it were about for me, but its not. I just like how they sound+look for the price.

I like Kendall Jackson, you may prefer Meridian, or Sutter Home. Are you going to read the specs on the bottles and buy based on them? Not always, I hope.
June 25, 2006 8:46:51 PM

You're right, we could go back and forth...but how's this: you win, I lose. Bose sux. People, stay away from Bose, you're money is bettey spent elsewhere. I want a pair of Martin Logan's and a Krell amp too (and, good Lord willing, I will have them one day)... I know that's stupid, but I like the way they sound...can't tell you what the specs are though.
June 25, 2006 8:54:08 PM

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i appreciate your affinity for bose ,thats great,i am sure they appreciate it too.
and you are missing my point,but thats ok.
i will look for the benches when i have time,never mind the favor. :roll:
bose creates speakers in some things to have a natural eq ,they purposefully do this for a signature sound on low end stuff.
in recording studios you dont see alot of bose speakers,at least i havent.


Good luck finding some specs on Bose, they usually market it as real time listening so they don't belief in benchmarchs or specs too much.
June 25, 2006 9:09:19 PM

I'm glad I only bought their cheap PC speakers. I'd better get back to the doctor about my ears...and get that money I paid him back! 8)
June 25, 2006 9:10:51 PM

I say get the s750 I have them and they sound really good when paired with an audigy 2ZS or an X-FI card.
June 25, 2006 9:12:34 PM

I have both the audigy 2zs and the x-fi plat (in box waiting for new speakers). Who could have thought getting a new set of speakers could b so dificult.
June 25, 2006 9:58:31 PM

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I have both the audigy 2zs and the x-fi plat (in box waiting for new speakers). Who could have thought getting a new set of speakers could b so dificult.


the solution is called s750 :wink:
June 25, 2006 10:04:35 PM

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I have both the audigy 2zs and the x-fi plat (in box waiting for new speakers). Who could have thought getting a new set of speakers could b so dificult.


the solution is called s750 :wink:

Dude, getting speakers isn't difficult. It's really not. In fact, it should be really fun. Go listen and buy what you like the sound of. If you try to buy something as subjective as speakers based on other's opinions you may find out that you don't like what you end up with. Are you able to go somewhere and audition the sets you're considering? ...otherwise its kinda like buying a car without driving it first.
June 25, 2006 10:29:01 PM

That's good advice, especially if you can't listen to the speakers first. ...but...hopefully you'll be able to listen to them first. Remember, you wouldn't buy a car without driving it first...would you? (Actually, i know some lady friends of mine that did that...and then complained...I wanted to shoot them both, but they were both devine to look at, and I don't believe in destroying art...oh wait, I'm off topic...again....) 8O
June 26, 2006 12:05:25 AM

The proble arises is that my boss owns the S750 I have tested em, even at the cambridge sound works store the personel bent over to show me it's power. I have also listened to the 5500 at a different store compusa but they don't have them on display anymore they replaced it witht he guetto 5450 and when I did get to test it it was strapped to a single button that only played music. the 5500 sounded really good with music, the S750 sounded good with movies. Since the 5500 was closed off you were limited to the demo, it's not the same as if you where to test it side by side. If I didn't hear of the S750 I would have gone ahead and purchase these, but the S750 sounded nice when I played kung Fu Hustle, only thing I noticed I dunno if its a normal characteristic but the sub was a bit lazy when it came to some punches and the guy falling, mostly acted when there was thunder or he did a super kick. I wish I could get a 5500 and test it side by side.
June 26, 2006 1:28:37 AM

I have an LCD, but the cat has slept on the printer and even on top of the computer case. He bit the wire when the computer was off, so no shock. I replaced the wire and the Klipsch works as well as ever. When I went to the store for a new wire the salesman said that the new Klipsch speakers were't THX certified anymore, so the ones I have are better than the ones they sell now. Guess the lesson is that if someone wants the best Klipsch speakers, they will have to be found on E-bay or someplace that has used speakers. Too bad.
June 26, 2006 2:29:11 AM

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the S750's are more powerful than the logitech 5500's by a margin but would you hear the difference?


I'm fairly sure a pair of bookshelves will go louder and with less distortion using 10W of clean power. Power ratings mean nothing if you don't know the sensitivities of the speakers in question. Not to mention, I PC speaker wattage is highly overrated as most of it goes to the subwoofer, which is why max SPLs dont look very impressive.


If that's the case, I've yet to see these bookshelves. A loudspeaker can only move so much air based on its surface area and throw distance. The drivers in the Logitechs are highly efficient, I know that much, the satellites housings are all ported for faster airflow and probably overall more pushing power. Max SPL for the thing as a whole is >115dB according to Logitech's website. The subwoofer in the Logitech's case is well balanced for wattage coming in at 188watts RMS, with the satellites totalling about 317watts or about 62ish per unit, 69 center. It's probably more likely to be a bad combination of frequency response or selected crossover frequency that would make such a combination sound bad, but that's not the case here either, as they sound fantastic and they sound fantastic incredibly, incredibly loud, and in my experience with zero distortion even when entering boost.

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Does the subwoofer of the S750 make the floor vibrate when in low use, I ask this because I noticed the it's aiming towards the floor and then has side port, Logitech has the intimidating side firing single drive that looks intimidating 10in drive with a 12in grill. Keep posting your comments, thank you.


Can't vouch for the S750, but I'd assume a definite yes! But it's the same case for the Logitechs as well, probably all these speakers. Perhaps it's less intense, but I'd say the vibrations in the room as a whole are what is more likely to be transmitted through floors than just the air the sub is firing initially. You could always stick the sub face-down and compare it ;)  or put the S750's sub on it's side... heheh.

This is why I don't post very much more here at THG. You are telling me a 3" one-way papercone playing 120-20KHz is going to be more sensitive with less distortion than 6.5" composite cones playing 80-1.8KHz? Max SPL is listed at 115db? That doesn't mean anything. A 2" Bose cone can hit 115db. Those numbers mean nothing without knowing the loudspeaker characterstics at that level or the THD. You can turn a 10W 0.1% THD amplifier and re-rate it to a 100W amplifier, without mentioning it runs at at 100% THD.

Fine fine. I'll stop posting here. You guys are funnier than a bunch of sports fans.
June 26, 2006 8:53:21 AM

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do you need a loan halcyon?


Yes, Martin Logans...Krell amp. $35K should help:

I need:
4 x ML Summits
1 x ML Stage
1 x ML Descent
1 x Krell HTS 7.1
1 x Krell Showcase Surround Pre-Amp

Can we do that loan @ 2.5% over 20 years? The equipment should last way beyond that.

Thanks :wink:

- Brad
June 26, 2006 4:30:09 PM

ok guys les break up the fight and focus on the theme.
June 26, 2006 4:33:20 PM

By the way I listened to the Bose it's really nice but I need 5.1 or more since I do a lotta FPS I dont wanna have someone sneak on me. Thanks all
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