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June 24, 2006 2:48:14 AM

Im buying a new case/psu for my aging hp pos
-going to upgrade the rest of the pc prob when conroe comes out!

i am buying a new case- any recomendations (lots of cooling, not flashy)
thinking Coolermaster Centurion 531 (like the style + front and back fans)
but am open to any suggestions (hopefully i can get a case under 100$ if no psu included)

i also need a psu that will give me headroom for my *near* future upgrades which will prob be OC'd !!!!

what psu (hopefully under 100$) fits this bill?

(im somewhat new to psu but from reading other posts i have come to understand that qualtiy >watts, so any specific recommendations?)

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June 24, 2006 4:22:41 PM

**WARNING! WARNING! WILL ROBINSON! -> POST REGURGITATION DETECTED!**

There's loads of good cases out there so perhaps it would help if I told you some of the criteria for what makes a case brilliant.

Good caseflow - position of fans, whether you want ATX or ATX upside down. Have a look at this article: http://www.short-media.com/review.php?r=230
I recommend you have a fan exhausting either at the top-upwards or rear-backwards. Having a front intake to cool your hard drives can help to improve the reliability of your hard drives.

Enough hard disk,optical and 3.5inch bays. I recommend at least 2 hard disk bays, 2 optical bays and 2 3.5inch bays.

Quiet - mostly this is linked directly to 120mm fans. 120 mm fans move slow and don't give that high pitched whine of other fans.

Light - usually means aluminium construction, alos helps the heat exit the system.

Removable motherboard tray - not essential but it will help you live longer as it will lower your blood pressure during construction.

Whether you want the thing to be moveable (ie has handles, is slimer or is wider-and-shorter).

Tool-less design is perhaps not needed (most people have a screwdriver or two at home) but having your hard drives mount across the width of the case allows you to pull them out easier than if they are aligned along the length of the case.

Some other things to think about

You want it not to look like a dog's dinner?

Mounting joints that are rubberised help stop vibrations but my insensitive ears can't tell the difference.

Cubby holes and extra space for extreme cooling solutions - places to sit external radiators.

With that knowledge you can now look at cases and judge what is suitable for your needs. Just in case (pun not intended), here a review site:
http://www.bjorn3d.com/content.php?cat=8&Submit=Go&view...

**REGURGITATION ENDS!**

Looking at your case, it looks to have some great features and will really do you in good stead. 120mm fan intake and exhaust is very useful and the case looks quite stylish too. Here's a review: http://www.bit-tech.net/modding/2005/07/06/centurion_53...

For a PSU, I would recommend the Antec NeoPower NeoHE 550W for probably the most stable power supply available. Unfortunately, it is $118 and perhaps a bit much.

Another good power supply is the hyper 580W for $99 (comes in a few colours)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.asp?Brand=111...
You can get cheaper supplies but I recommend you get 1 that is SLI certified, over 500W and make sure you check the reviews on it.
June 24, 2006 4:42:52 PM

I bought an Lian Li aluminum case and the Hiper 580W. They'll both be in by Wednesday, so I'll know for sure then, but I don't expect any problems. The Hiper is a really highly reviewed PSU, and Lian Li makes the best cases you can buy. The PSU is $99, and the case was just over $100.

Both are in my sig.
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June 24, 2006 9:23:23 PM

If Lian Li had a design department i would buy a Lian Li until then. they dont have my buisness.

I mean. u pay 150 dollars for a case, its ugly as fuck and it'll last for ever so u kno ur f*cked since it'll never break. I mean the least they could do was make it pretty or something
June 24, 2006 11:13:58 PM

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If Lian Li had a design department i would buy a Lian Li until then. they dont have my buisness.

I mean. u pay 150 dollars for a case, its ugly as **** and it'll last for ever so u kno ur f*cked since it'll never break. I mean the least they could do was make it pretty or something


There speaks a man who keeps all his taste in his mouth.

Lian Li cases aren't loud. They're classy. The carbon fiber finish and the annodized aluminum complement each other very nicely.

If you want a loud case, buy one or mod it. Don't complain because a case is better looking than you are.
June 24, 2006 11:59:01 PM

lol, but they are butt ugly.

if u ask anyone, NZXT lexa vs PC-60

lexa looks better.
June 25, 2006 7:19:38 AM

Actually, I must admit that the NZXT lexa looks good and is better value than the Lian Li cases. However, people's tastes are different and there's no doubting Lian Li's build quality.
June 25, 2006 3:28:28 PM

yah but its like....hmmm....its like asking someone if they went a ferrari or a mercedes. 1 was built flashy, the other was built for class. most will go ferrari.


also because of the good quality of lian li's u get stuck with an unly case forever :D  :D 
June 25, 2006 10:38:34 PM

heh i actully like the looks of the lian li- i cant stand all the skull and neons.... the lexa looked kinda cool but too non conventional for me

im really looking for a case that looks basic but has higher end feautres, like the lian li

what im looking for are 1) multiple 120mm fans
2)removable mobo tray
3)non flashy look
June 25, 2006 11:22:57 PM

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heh i actully like the looks of the lian li- i cant stand all the skull and neons.... the lexa looked kinda cool but too non conventional for me

im really looking for a case that looks basic but has higher end feautres, like the lian li

what im looking for are 1) multiple 120mm fans
2)removable mobo tray
3)non flashy look


I now use only Coolermaster cases (best cooling ones I have found).
I also now only use Thermalright SI-120 for cpu cooler (cools the best AND cools the ram/voltage regulators).
For fans I only use Silverstone FM-121 on both the case and cooler and give the Coolermaster case fan(s) back to customer.

For PSU's I now only use PC Power and Cooling 510's.

Z
June 26, 2006 6:58:32 PM

well i went with the centurion 532 (handle bar style 1 if that isnt the model) because it had a 20$ rebate

put the 20$ towards a psu got the Hiper 580 (mostly because it is modular) had decent reviews...noone seemed to have bad things to say wheever i went

the centurion doesnt come with a rear fan....with my current pc i dont need much cooling BUT when i upgrade im gonna replace the front fan and ad a back fan with delta 120's - i might have to tie my mobo down lol
June 26, 2006 8:01:58 PM

u need a rear fan more than u need the front one, i recommend u move the front fan to the rear
June 27, 2006 2:42:48 AM

i see, i should make it exaust right?
June 27, 2006 7:06:44 AM

yah
June 27, 2006 8:54:17 AM

I'm using a CM Centurian 5 on my iPod Spore rig, I love the fact that it has very little plastic on the exterior. Its a good tool-free case with excellent airflow. Even though the case isn't expensive its a solid case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681...

On the PSU...

CONSIDER A GOOD MODULAR PSU. You'll be glad you did. I bought an Antec TP 480 for the iPod Jumbo and while its a descent PSU I wish it was modular so I'd only have the necessary spaghetti and not the unneccessary.

Give it some thought.
June 27, 2006 12:27:13 PM

I'd go with the NZXT Lexa. That's what I'm going to get when I build my Conroe rig. Looks great, has a good amount of room for a mid-tower case, made of aluminum so it's light, comes with a carrying strap, includes two 120mm fans and two 80mm fans, and even has an intake on the bottom of the case where you could easily place another 80mm fans. All intakes have fan filters to keep the dust out. It also has a 3 temperature sensor on the front to keep track of case, CPU and HD temperatures.

On the other hand, if you're on a tight budget, a Cooler Master Centurion 5 is probably the best choice. Not much in the looks department, but it performs great for an inexpensive case.
June 27, 2006 3:22:18 PM

I have n NZXT Lexa, its a good case, steep price though
June 27, 2006 3:52:50 PM

Buy Thermaltake Armor Jr.!!! It's very nice! I have Sr. and the air flow comes in the front, exits the from the top and from the back!

And it's not going to cost $300 like Lian Li. Which are butt ass ugly!
June 27, 2006 4:40:43 PM

I don't like the idea of a fan on the bottom. Dust settles underneath your case, and I doubt you'll clean under there daily. Because of the bottom intake, anything under the case will then be inside it. I could spare a degree or two if it means my parts aren't covered in filth - which would then make it warmer.

And to all the Lian Li haters out there, get some class. You'll find it handy when you grow up.
June 27, 2006 5:13:53 PM

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I don't like the idea of a fan on the bottom. Dust settles underneath your case, and I doubt you'll clean under there daily. Because of the bottom intake, anything under the case will then be inside it. I could spare a degree or two if it means my parts aren't covered in filth - which would then make it warmer.

And to all the Lian Li haters out there, get some class. You'll find it handy when you grow up.


The case comes without a fan there, so nothing is really getting "sucked" up into the case. Air flows freely into the case. It has a washable dust filter on all intake holes, including the bottom hole too, 5 seconds under the faucet and it's like new. And if you do add a fan there, the filter will catch any dust, so dust in the case is no worry.
June 27, 2006 5:45:46 PM

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I don't like the idea of a fan on the bottom. Dust settles underneath your case, and I doubt you'll clean under there daily. Because of the bottom intake, anything under the case will then be inside it. I could spare a degree or two if it means my parts aren't covered in filth - which would then make it warmer.

And to all the Lian Li haters out there, get some class. You'll find it handy when you grow up.


I may be ignorant as hull, but I'd have to definately agree. ...a cricket dies under your CPU...decays...then get sucked up into the vortex and winds up partly in your video card...partly in your CPU HSF...partly in your PSU. ...yeahp.

Just kidding!! Just kidding, but yeah, you may want to really think about a jet intake, I mean fan, on the bottom of your case.
June 27, 2006 5:58:06 PM

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I don't like the idea of a fan on the bottom. Dust settles underneath your case, and I doubt you'll clean under there daily. Because of the bottom intake, anything under the case will then be inside it. I could spare a degree or two if it means my parts aren't covered in filth - which would then make it warmer.

And to all the Lian Li haters out there, get some class. You'll find it handy when you grow up.


I may be ignorant as hull, but I'd have to definately agree. ...a cricket dies under your CPU...decays...then get sucked up into the vortex and winds up partly in your video card...partly in your CPU HSF...partly in your PSU. ...yeahp.

Just kidding!! Just kidding, but yeah, you may want to really think about a jet intake, I mean fan, on the bottom of your case.


there is a filter at the bottom
June 27, 2006 6:16:07 PM

Anyone have any experience with the P180s from Antec? Although they are a little pricey they seem to be nice and quiet and have wicked airflow thanks to the 4 120mm fans.

As for PS I like seasonic and enermax. Never had a problem with either and the seasonics are extremely efficient.

My next build will hopefully be a combo of P180b and a 600w seasonic.
June 27, 2006 7:33:09 PM

I know, was just trying to offer a quick smile.
June 27, 2006 7:36:28 PM

I don't have much personal experiance with a P180, but a friend of mine does. He built a server out of it for a client and absolutely loved the thing. All of the fans have adjustable speeds, there's a small selector, you have 2 or 3 options. With all fans on high it could be somewhat noisy but it had insane airflow, if you turned the fans on low it was pretty quiet and still had good airflow. Normally this guy wouldn't have anything to do with ATX cases, he prefers SFF, but he said if he ever got another ATX case that would be the one.

ChaseD13: As far as PSU goes I'd say Antec, they make some of the best that I know of. Unless of course you have $500 to spend on a PSU, in which case you could get the PC Power and Cooling 1KW =P http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681.... This of course would be total overkill unless you had plans to build something that would cause power fluctuations in your neighborhood :D .
June 27, 2006 7:44:07 PM

yah, he doesnt need a kilowatt.
June 27, 2006 7:56:37 PM

Of course he doesn't need, that was purely for amusement. I could probably power all three of my computers off of that one supply if it came with the right connectors.
June 27, 2006 9:17:05 PM

im sure u could find a 3 way 24 pin splitter :) 
June 27, 2006 10:27:16 PM

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Buy Thermaltake Armor Jr.!!! It's very nice! I have Sr. and the air flow comes in the front, exits the from the top and from the back!


Did you have any problems hooking the 2 USB ports to your mobo? I can't hook it up to mine. The pins don't line up and I have no clue what NC stands for.

Maybe the Jr. is better. The airflow on the Sr. is great! This baby however is very heavy so no Lan parties for me :cry:  Well unless I use the old cherry picker. The tooless design is also very poor on the pci slots.
June 27, 2006 10:36:59 PM

Whatever you do, don't buy an Antec Lanboy. I guess it is light, and I imagine that's its only purpose. ...but the front panel is this cheap...cough...painted plastic. Why paint it to look like Aluminum...just make it aluminum. I was actually embarrassed when I set a rig up in one. ....so I saved face and took it back...they charge too much for that cheapness too. :roll:

That's why I like the CM C5, it doesn't purport to be anything special. It's just good airflow, inexpensive, and, aaaaahhh, metal.
June 27, 2006 10:44:51 PM

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Whatever you do, don't buy an Antec Lanboy. I guess it is light, and I imagine that's its only purpose. ...but the front panel is this cheap...cough...painted plastic. Why paint it to look like Aluminum...just make it aluminum. I was actually embarrassed when I set a rig up in one. ....so I saved face and took it back...they charge too much for that cheapness too. :roll:

That's why I like the CM C5, it doesn't purport to be anything special. It's just good airflow, inexpensive, and, aaaaahhh, metal.



i believe the bezel is aluminum
June 27, 2006 10:50:54 PM

Trust me, its plastic. When I'd got mine some of the paint had rubbed off and I thought, "Well, I can paint that...." Then I thought, "What the f*ck?! I can't live with that, its gotta go, cheap s0b". ...bad memories. ...bad memories of its cheap plasticness. I'm not saying plastic is bad, when it's done right. ...but in the LanBoy's case, IMO, it wasn't done right. Antec is into plastic, but as long as there's CoolerMaster and ThermalTake then Antec can be into flying saucers, and can build them like it built the LanBoy. When you pay them enough they make nice gear. The LB was just a dissapointment to me, as you can see. ...and I'd hate to see someone make that same mistake if they're buying off the internet and can't see the case first.
June 27, 2006 11:17:32 PM

went with centurion 532 with the hiper 580w psu (mainly bc it is modular) - read some good things about it (one review musta had a messed up one that was like 13v on the 12v-hope that wont be mine
June 27, 2006 11:24:54 PM

huh, it is plastic i lie.
June 28, 2006 12:37:52 AM

It is plastic, I'm using one right now. I can see why Halcyon would complain about it, it's not super high quality but it's lasted through a couple of lan partys and rebuilds for me. The cheapness is annoying but my entire system, internals included weighs about as much as some of the steel cases I've used. I wasn't too concerned about how it looked, I got it more for weight. If one is worried about looks there are definately better cases out there, if you want something light and easy to move around then the Lanboy isn't too bad. One nice feature for me (other cases prolly have it) was the fact that it came with a carrying strap, that certainly made transporting the box itself somewhat easier.
June 28, 2006 1:09:07 AM

NZXT Lexa, light 10lbs unloaded, looks good, good cooling, comes with carrying bag.
June 28, 2006 5:01:03 AM

I ordered an Antec P180 from NewEgg yesterday ($105 after $20 rebate with free shipping), been wanting one for a whole year, finally got tired of the noise from my wife's computer and decided to silence it with the P180. For less $, good quality and decent quietness, the Antec case/PSU combo in my sig is fine. (But it has a plastic door, which some of y'all wouldn't like.) I wanted the P180 based on an early 2005 review when I built my rig last year, but it wasn't out yet. I'll hand my current rig down to my wife and reclaim the P180 when I build my next rig in 2007. I expect I'll "need" a dual or quad core next generation CPU by then. Truthfully, my old 2.4GHz overclocked mobile XP 2600 (now my wife's computer) is still sufficient for ~everything today.
June 28, 2006 8:29:35 AM

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It is plastic, I'm using one right now. I can see why Halcyon would complain about it, it's not super high quality but it's lasted through a couple of lan partys and rebuilds for me. The cheapness is annoying but my entire system, internals included weighs about as much as some of the steel cases I've used. I wasn't too concerned about how it looked, I got it more for weight. If one is worried about looks there are definately better cases out there, if you want something light and easy to move around then the Lanboy isn't too bad. One nice feature for me (other cases prolly have it) was the fact that it came with a carrying strap, that certainly made transporting the box itself somewhat easier.


I didn't mean to sound arrogant or knock anyone's LanBoy. It's purpose is to be light and portable, and that it does in spades! I think I was dissapointed because they could have easily made that front panel aluminum...it'd have been even lighter...and I doubt it would have cost them more than $.25-$.50 to do so...what...2-3 Pepsi cans? It would have been a slick case, IMO, if they'd done that.

There's so many beautiful cases, some by Antec themselves, so there's lots of choices. I'm a visual person, so why it seems like I've ranted, such things are really important to me. I really do recommend a good modular power supply. ...makes doing a good-looking tight cabling job a lot easier.
June 28, 2006 2:28:29 PM

You didn't sound that arrogant about it to me, you have valid points, I was just offering another point of view. I would have to agree that it would have been better if it had been all alminum. 2-3 pepsi cans or a used geo sounds about right! :lol:  I would like to say I have had one complaint about it aside from the plastic front case and that is the whole thing at times seems flimsy. Part of that is the flexibility of the aluminum but they could have easily fixed that. Overall the Lanboy is a decent case that could have been amazing.

Sadly in this case we're victims of our own capitalistic economy, or those of us in the US at least. Companies try to make money so they cut corners or do things as cheaply as possible. Being an engineering student I've learned a little about manufacturing processes and to mold plastic is going to be cheaper than bending or casting aluminum.
June 28, 2006 6:42:03 PM

if antec added a side panel 120mm fan to the lanboy it would be a grea tproduct.
June 28, 2006 6:55:51 PM

Got a Dremel...? :lol: 

What I personally would like more than a side fan would be a "blowhole" fan. If I put my PSU in with the fan side down it blows hot air across my cpu, if I flip it over it get's poor ventilation. If there was at least an opening, fan or no fan, it would be awesome. If I wasn't worried about damaging the case I'd just make one myself...
June 28, 2006 7:20:35 PM

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Got a Dremel...? :lol: 

What I personally would like more than a side fan would be a "blowhole" fan. If I put my PSU in with the fan side down it blows hot air across my cpu, if I flip it over it get's poor ventilation. If there was at least an opening, fan or no fan, it would be awesome. If I wasn't worried about damaging the case I'd just make one myself...




No. All PSU's exaust.
June 28, 2006 7:27:34 PM

I may be mistaken but I thought I'd checked it and found that it was pushing hot air into the computer. Either way it still runs hotter than I'd like it to.
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