Tailwheel Fell Through Runway!

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So, I'm landing the DC3 and very happy that I didn't crash it. :-)
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y [...] nding1.jpg

As the tail of the plane settles to the ground, my view out the front
windshield gets higher and higher...and then *too* high and I get a CRASH
message! When I switch to spot view I see that the back half of the plane
is underground...instant replay shows that instead of landing on the ground,
the tailwheel passed through the runway causing the crash.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y [...] nding2.jpg

Luckily I'd saved the flight just before landing (I need the practice :-),
and this time everything worked normally. So, it's a mystery as to why this
happened.

I was using the Golden Wings 3 mod, if that matters.

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On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 06:26:34 -0400, "Matt B." <none@given> brought the
following to our attention:

>So, I'm landing the DC3 and very happy that I didn't crash it. :-)
>http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y18/Sawdust5/Flight%20Simulator/DC3Landing1.jpg
>
>As the tail of the plane settles to the ground, my view out the front
>windshield gets higher and higher...and then *too* high and I get a CRASH
>message! When I switch to spot view I see that the back half of the plane
>is underground...instant replay shows that instead of landing on the ground,
>the tailwheel passed through the runway causing the crash.
>http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y18/Sawdust5/Flight%20Simulator/DC3Landing2.jpg
>
>Luckily I'd saved the flight just before landing (I need the practice :-),
>and this time everything worked normally. So, it's a mystery as to why this
>happened.
>
>I was using the Golden Wings 3 mod, if that matters.
>

maybe the tail-wheel was let down a bit too rapidly and broke. It's an
exaggeration when the whole plane `goes under'. Is it the default DC3?
Check in the Aircraft.cfg file (in DC3 folder) for the Tail Wheel in
[Contact_Points] section. See what the Damage Threshold is
(fourth parameter from left).

//4 Impact Damage Threshold (Feet Per Minute)


-Gregory


p.s. or add index into the [Contact_Points] section for reference

>[Contact_Points]
>//0 Class (0=none,1=wheel, 2=scrape, 3=float)
>//1 Longitudinal Position (feet)
>//2 Lateral Position (feet)
>//3 Vertical Position (feet)
>//4 Impact Damage Threshold (Feet Per Minute)
>//5 Brake Map (0=None, 1=Left, 2=Right)
>//6 Wheel Radius (feet)
>//7 Steer Angle (degrees)
>//8 Static Compression (feet) (0 if rigid)
>//9 Max/Static Compression Ratio
>//10 Damping Ratio (0=Undamped, 1=Critically Damped)
>//11 Extension Time (seconds)
>//12 Retraction Time (seconds)
>//13 Sound Type
>//14 Airspeed limit for retraction (KIAS)
>//15 Airspeed that gear gets damage at (KIAS)

>//-----0,-----1,-----2,-----3,----4,--5,----6,--7,----8,----9,---10,---11,---12,-13,---14,--15
> 1st node goes here

above line is index bar.. now adjust spacing of entries..

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On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 06:26:34 -0400, "Matt B." <none@given> brought the
following to our attention:

>So, I'm landing the DC3 and very happy that I didn't crash it. :-)
>http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y18/Sawdust5/Flight%20Simulator/DC3Landing1.jpg
>
>As the tail of the plane settles to the ground, my view out the front
>windshield gets higher and higher...and then *too* high and I get a CRASH
>message! When I switch to spot view I see that the back half of the plane
>is underground...instant replay shows that instead of landing on the ground,
>the tailwheel passed through the runway causing the crash.
>http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y18/Sawdust5/Flight%20Simulator/DC3Landing2.jpg
>
>Luckily I'd saved the flight just before landing (I need the practice :-),
>and this time everything worked normally. So, it's a mystery as to why this
>happened.


>
>I was using the Golden Wings 3 mod, if that matters.
>

Just noticed above line.. it's possible to find each and every change
to AIR and CFG file. It answers `what exactly does GW3 modify'.


FWIW.. FO Deukevich (5y/o nephew) landed the Jet last weekend and
banged the left wing on the ground. About 1/3 of the wing disappeared
below grade. There was no crash. In this case.. I doubt anyone could
get away with `whapping' the wing on the grass like that!! So we're
looking at the SCRAPE damage thresholds now.

How'd anyone know this?? since we never crash.. or even test-crash!!


-Gregory

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On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 08:24:52 -0500, CRaSH wrote:

> Have you meant Lawn Dart? If you two could combine your landing
> techniques........ well, never mind... d:-> ))

I've been waiting for this moment for a loooong time, but I finally caught
you on a typo!!!

There *is* a bright spot in the universe after all! :-)

--

Marcel (SAG-21)
(It's good to be the king! - Mel Brooks)

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Marcel Kuijper wrote:
> I've been waiting for this moment for a loooong time, but I finally
> caught you on a typo!!!
>


Damn Kyrgyzstan spell/grammer checker, guy on eBay said it was fluent in 97
languages.........

But ya missed another, and I ain't tellin which... |-p