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June 25, 2006 7:36:51 AM

Yeah, I want to overclock this, and I'm unsure as to how to really go about it. I mean, I'm aware of how to go about the overclocking, raising the FSB a bit to raise the Clock Speed until it crashes, and then raising the VCore until it doesnt crash, and then running 32M iterations of SuperPi, then hoping it doesnt fry itself, and then tweaking around the VCore and FSB ratings for the next 2 months, and running SuperPi behind Quake4 :D  Ah whatever, I'm a bright guy, I'll work it from there.

But I'm unsure as to how to buy the stuff for it. Here's my provisional list of shizzle: Oh, and by the way, rounded IDE cables, and SATA Hard Drives, as if I needed to say. Cable routing is going to be a MAJOR issue in this.

[*:e15a799d5b]Antec Sonata II - With 450W SmartPower2.0 PSU
[*:e15a799d5b]Intel Pentium D 805 2.66 GHz
[*:e15a799d5b]2x Western Digital 200GB
[*:e15a799d5b]2x DVD-RW
[*:e15a799d5b]Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro Cooler Fan
[*:e15a799d5b]Asus P5P800 SE
[*:e15a799d5b]Viking 512mb DDR PC3200
[*:e15a799d5b]6600GT GFX

Now, before anyone starts beating me with a stick for building a gaming machine on the cheap like this :D  I need to say that I'm not too interested in getting it to the blistering rates that THG got it to. If I get this to be stable under load at 3.4Ghz, I'll be a happy bunny. To hell with it, if I get 3.2 or 3.33 I'll be a happy sodding bunny. It's never going to get above 3.6, whatever.

Now, problems and questions:
    [*:e15a799d5b]450W Smartpower: For just getting up to 3.4, is that going to be OK? It's a major budget hit, the PSU.
    [*:e15a799d5b]Of course, I'm using rounded cables to make cable clutter not a problem. Does the Sonata offer enough space for me to route all the cables in it? Note that I'm not buying Floppy Drives to cut down on cables :D 
    [*:e15a799d5b]The motherboard, according to ASUS offers many overclocking stuff to jiggle about. It adjusts FSB up to 400Mhz, at 1Mhz increments, locks PCI/AGP voltage, and allows adjusting of VCore. Is that all thats needed? I know THG recommends a good motherboard, but then it would spoil the point of buying cheap junk and overclocking it in the first place, no?
    [*:e15a799d5b]The RAM. Yeah, I know, but should I spend the money on some phat Corsir RAM, or anything? I know the Mobo is DDR, not DDR2, but then, DDR is cheaper.
    [*:e15a799d5b]The fan. Is it OK? Bearing in mind I dont need the insane levels of overclock that THG got. Again, 3.4 will make me a very happy bunny, and anything above 3.2 is a bonus.
    [*:e15a799d5b]ASUS say the FSB is 553/800Mhz. Is that OK for the Pentium D?

    Anyway, give it a glance over, and tell me if it sucks or not. Its under £400, with just one of those Hard Drives, which rocks :D  The major consideration of this is budget, not an insane overclock.

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June 25, 2006 8:24:12 AM

Buying a MB that uses PC3200 DDR 400 mhz RAM will not help. Your RAM frequency will max out somewhere in the neighborhood of 400 mhz. and the CPU takes the RAM speed with it as you increase the FSB. You won't get very far.

One reason the Pentium D 805 Smith clocks so high is because of the PC6400 DDR2 800 mgz. memory available to use with the processor. Get a MB that uses minimum PC5400 DDR2 667 mgz. I have it and I can get to 3.5. MY OCZ PC5400 DDR2 667 mhz. RAM is running at 712 mhz at 3.5 mhz. on my 805 D. The whole fun of O'clocking the 805 D Smith is having that high reving mhz. RAM to work with.
June 25, 2006 9:48:14 AM

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Buying a MB that uses PC3200 DDR 400 mhz RAM will not help. Your RAM frequency will max out somewhere in the neighborhood of 400 mhz. and the CPU takes the RAM speed with it as you increase the FSB. You won't get very far.

One reason the Pentium D 805 Smith clocks so high is because of the PC6400 DDR2 800 mgz. memory available to use with the processor. Get a MB that uses minimum PC5400 DDR2 667 mgz. I have it and I can get to 3.5. MY OCZ PC5400 DDR2 667 mhz. RAM is running at 712 mhz at 3.5 mhz. on my 805 D. The whole fun of O'clocking the 805 D Smith is having that high reving mhz. RAM to work with.


Would it be an OK idea to just get some really phat quality DDR RAM? Like the one linked below, instead of some pooey generic RAM with relatively high latencies.

http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/52435
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June 25, 2006 4:07:46 PM

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Buying a MB that uses PC3200 DDR 400 mhz RAM will not help. Your RAM frequency will max out somewhere in the neighborhood of 400 mhz. and the CPU takes the RAM speed with it as you increase the FSB. You won't get very far.

One reason the Pentium D 805 Smith clocks so high is because of the PC6400 DDR2 800 mgz. memory available to use with the processor. Get a MB that uses minimum PC5400 DDR2 667 mgz. I have it and I can get to 3.5. MY OCZ PC5400 DDR2 667 mhz. RAM is running at 712 mhz at 3.5 mhz. on my 805 D. The whole fun of O'clocking the 805 D Smith is having that high reving mhz. RAM to work with.


Would it be an OK idea to just get some really phat quality DDR RAM? Like the one linked below, instead of some pooey generic RAM with relatively high latencies.

http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/52435

You can get the pooey stuff. It's ef'ed runnin at the same 400 mhz as the junky Pro e'hor your thinkin about e'fn.
June 25, 2006 4:19:23 PM

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You can get the pooey stuff. It's ef'ed runnin at the same 400 mhz as the junky Pro e'hor your thinkin about e'fn.


Erm... what?
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June 25, 2006 4:27:24 PM

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You can get the pooey stuff. It's ef'ed runnin at the same 400 mhz as the junky Pro e'hor your thinkin about e'fn.


Erm... what?

400 mhz is 400 mhz. Your board will not run any faster if you get the phat stuff or the pooey stuff. No? Get a board that will run 667 or 800 mhz if you want to O'clock. You take the RAM with you when you up the FSB. Trust Me. LMAO!
June 25, 2006 5:08:17 PM

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400 mhz is 400 mhz. Your board will not run any faster if you get the phat stuff or the pooey stuff. No? Get a board that will run 667 or 800 mhz if you want to O'clock. You take the RAM with you when you up the FSB. Trust Me. LMAO!


Ah, I see. So what motherboard would anyone recommend? I dont quite understand. Can I overclock well with a board that will run DDR (not necessarily DDR2) at 667Mhz? I'm looking for it as cheap as possible, though, or there isnt much point in overclocking the cheap processor lol.
June 25, 2006 5:24:34 PM

I seriously recommend spending the extra 50 or so dollars on a D920, overall a much better CPU than the D805 and has better overclocking abillitys as it is 65nm.


Just my 2 cents. (or should i see pence....?)
June 25, 2006 5:50:45 PM

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I seriously recommend spending the extra 50 or so dollars on a D920, overall a much better CPU than the D805 and has better overclocking abillitys as it is 65nm.


Did you not read the THG article about the D805 2.66 being clocked up to 4.1Ghz? THis is pretty much the defintion of overclicking heaven, surely?
June 25, 2006 5:52:50 PM

I did, and i have a D805. But for just 30 pounds more you can get a D920/30 which are MUCH better overclocking CPUs than my D805. It consumes a huge amount of power at 3.8ghz, and is very hot compared to the 65nm chips.
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June 25, 2006 7:43:03 PM

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I seriously recommend spending the extra 50 or so dollars on a D920, overall a much better CPU than the D805 and has better overclocking abillitys as it is 65nm.


Did you not read the THG article about the D805 2.66 being clocked up to 4.1Ghz? THis is pretty much the defintion of overclicking heaven, surely?

I'm trying to help you out. You are either not listening or you do not understand. You will not get that Pentium D Smithfield much past 3.0 (if that) with a MB running PC3200 DDR RAM. You need a MB that runs DDR2 RAM and preferably PC6400 DDR2 800 mhz. RAM. You are wasting your time, money and effort hooking that processor up to a board that runs PC3200. You keeep referring to the Tom's article about overclocking to 4.1. Why don't you take a closer look at that article. I assure you they are not using Corsair PC3200 DDR like you are proposing to do. I tried my best.
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June 25, 2006 7:48:31 PM

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I did, and i have a D805. But for just 30 pounds more you can get a D920/30 which are MUCH better overclocking CPUs than my D805. It consumes a huge amount of power at 3.8ghz, and is very hot compared to the 65nm chips.


Here's the specs on my backup computer.

Pentium D 805 Smithfield (O'cd 3.5) Max speed capable with 667 mhz RAM and 945g MB.
OCZ PC5400 DDR2 667 mhz (clocked at 712 mhz)
ASUS P5LD2-VM Micro Board (Not recommend for getting 4.1 out of this processor)
EVGA 7800 GT
WD 74 SATA
Coolermaster copper heatsink/fan
Infinity 500 psu.
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June 25, 2006 7:51:47 PM

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Question.
June 25, 2006 7:52:40 PM

I was just wondering why you posted your system specs, had me confused.
June 25, 2006 7:53:38 PM

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I'm trying to hel you out. You are either not listening or you do not understand. You will not that Pentium D Smithfield mush of 3.0 (if that) with a MB running PC32pp DDR RAM. You need aMB that runs DDR2 RAM and preferably PC6400 DDR2 800 mhz. RAM. You are wasting your time, money and effort hooking that processor up to a board that runs PC3200. You keeep referring to the nTom's article about overclocking to 4.1. Why don't you take a closer look at that article. I assure you they are not using Corsair PC3200 DDR like you are proposing to do. I tried my best.


Oh, please dont get me wrong, I really appreciate the help. I'm new to this, as you can PROBABLY tell lol :D 

So, you DO need some pretty phat stuff to overclock the PentiumD to 3.6+? Might it be worth just buying a £200 3800+ X2, and a £60 Mobo, with £60 1GB RAM, as to buy the £140 Mobo with £80 Pentium D Processor, and £100 1GB good DDR2 RAM, and a £40 cooler?

Damn this overclocking business being harder than it seems :( 
June 25, 2006 7:57:43 PM

Firstly, spend about £40 more and get a D920. Secondly, dont bother with an aftermarket cooler. Thirdly you dont need to spend that much on a motherboard, unless you wish to upgrade to conroe in the future. Finally you dont need to get really expensive DDR2 stuff to overclock, just get some corsair DDR2 5400 value select, which isn't very expensive but is quite good, but if you must have decent ram and intend to do serious overclocking look into Corsair XMS2, i have some in my machine and it is the dogs proverbials.
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June 25, 2006 7:58:40 PM

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I was just wondering why you posted your system specs, had me confused.


It's my baxk up system. My system uses the Overclocked Pentium D Smithfield with PC5400 DDR2 667 mhz Ram. bumcheekcity wants to know what the difference will be if he buys a MB that will use PC3200 DDR RAM. A lot. The difference being with what bumcheek is proposing He will get to about 3.0 mhz. and with what I am telling him He has to potential to get near 4.0 mgz. with the processor He does not and and I do. Simple enough for me to understand. I don't know what your qustion is. Do you have a Pentium D 805 Smithfield you have personally overclocked. Case closed.
June 25, 2006 7:59:59 PM

My mind must not be functioning properly today..... :-.

And yes, i do have a D805, very good chip.
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June 25, 2006 8:02:12 PM

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I'm trying to hel you out. You are either not listening or you do not understand. You will not that Pentium D Smithfield mush of 3.0 (if that) with a MB running PC32pp DDR RAM. You need aMB that runs DDR2 RAM and preferably PC6400 DDR2 800 mhz. RAM. You are wasting your time, money and effort hooking that processor up to a board that runs PC3200. You keeep referring to the nTom's article about overclocking to 4.1. Why don't you take a closer look at that article. I assure you they are not using Corsair PC3200 DDR like you are proposing to do. I tried my best.


Oh, please dont get me wrong, I really appreciate the help. I'm new to this, as you can PROBABLY tell lol :D 

So, you DO need some pretty phat stuff to overclock the PentiumD to 3.6+? Might it be worth just buying a £200 3800+ X2, and a £60 Mobo, with £60 1GB RAM, as to buy the £140 Mobo with £80 Pentium D Processor, and £100 1GB good DDR2 RAM, and a £40 cooler?

Damn this overclocking business being harder than it seems :( 

Well, the AMD X2 Dual Core processors are generally (I stress generally) very poor overclockers. That Pentium D 805 Smithfield is an amazing processor to achieve speeds of 4.0 and better with to proper periphals, like 800 mhz RAM to follow it up into speed heaven. After all, if you listen (I said listen) some believe there are like 42 little e'hore virgins waiting there.
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June 25, 2006 8:03:42 PM

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My mind must not be functioning properly today..... :-.

And yes, i do have a D805, very good chip.


That's perfect. Are you using PC3200 400 mhz. RAM to run it? This is gonna be sweet.
June 25, 2006 8:04:25 PM

You could see in my sig that im using corsair XMS2 5400....
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June 25, 2006 8:06:42 PM

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You could see in my sig that im using corsair XMS2 5400....


My mistake. I got as far as Pentium 478 reading your stats. Yeah. PC5400 is nice. I have some OCZ PC5400 DDR2 667 clocked at 712 mhz right now. Awsome dude. And dudettes if your out there in Speed Heaven.
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June 25, 2006 8:08:11 PM

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You could see in my sig that im using corsair XMS2 5400....


By the way. This is great (sweetcheeks are your LISTENING!) WHAT MB AND CHIPSET ARE YOU USING TO RUN THAT PROCESSOR?
June 25, 2006 8:10:03 PM

Mobo is the Gigabyte GA-G1975X i975X, sure it's expensive but it's jam packed full of features and im ready for conroe :-D
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June 25, 2006 8:14:08 PM

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Mobo is the Gigabyte GA-G1975X i975X, sure it's expensive but it's jam packed full of features and im ready for conroe :-D


You are my efing hero! Sweetcheeks! See that. This is awsome dude! A friggin' Gigabyte-G1975X I975 and no that's not the highway running'through the other side of town over there in bumef.

I like my Pentium D 805 just the way it is like that guy in the song sings. I won't be changin' darlin'.
June 25, 2006 8:43:10 PM

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I seriously recommend spending the extra 50 or so dollars on a D920, overall a much better CPU than the D805 and has better overclocking abillitys as it is 65nm.


Did you not read the THG article about the D805 2.66 being clocked up to 4.1Ghz? THis is pretty much the defintion of overclicking heaven, surely?

I'm trying to help you out. You are either not listening or you do not understand. You will not get that Pentium D Smithfield much past 3.0 (if that) with a MB running PC3200 DDR RAM. You need a MB that runs DDR2 RAM and preferably PC6400 DDR2 800 mhz. RAM. You are wasting your time, money and effort hooking that processor up to a board that runs PC3200. You keeep referring to the Tom's article about overclocking to 4.1. Why don't you take a closer look at that article. I assure you they are not using Corsair PC3200 DDR like you are proposing to do. I tried my best.

you dont need 800mhz 667 is just fime, i cant even select 667 for memory untill i go to 167fsb or 3.34Ghz the same memory i am running at 4ghz and could go to 4.4 if i had the right cooling. and before that was using 533 mhz value ram for 3.4 ghz.

also there is no real performance gain in going with 800mhz, If you search these forums for darklife he has a blog and tested 800/667mhz.

I know i have read others on these forums with similiar to OP setups have success with the d805
June 25, 2006 9:49:00 PM

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Oh, please dont get me wrong, I really appreciate the help. I'm new to this, as you can PROBABLY tell lol :D 

So, you DO need some pretty phat stuff to overclock the PentiumD to 3.6+? Might it be worth just buying a £200 3800+ X2, and a £60 Mobo, with £60 1GB RAM, as to buy the £140 Mobo with £80 Pentium D Processor, and £100 1GB good DDR2 RAM, and a £40 cooler?

Damn this overclocking business being harder than it seems :( 


bumcheekcity,

What you should really concider here is why spend the money on old technology?

It would be different if you already had most of the parts and want to reuse it. But to now go out a buy very old technology would be a waste of your money.

Get a motherboard that has PCI-E - Newer graphic card technology not old AGP
Get RAM that is DDR2 - Newer RAM Technology not DDR old ram.
Get a PCI-E Graphic Card.
Get the D805 Processor - Especially if this is your first OC, very easy to do and if you fry it, your out of pocket the least amount.
Get a cooler - lower temps will help the life of your processor and give you potentially a better chance at a high OC, the cooler it runs the higher you can go (PSU permitting).
June 25, 2006 10:08:46 PM

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Get a motherboard that has PCI-E - Newer graphic card technology not old AGP
Get RAM that is DDR2 - Newer RAM Technology not DDR old ram.
Get a PCI-E Graphic Card.
Get the D805 Processor - Especially if this is your first OC, very easy to do and if you fry it, your out of pocket the least amount.
Get a cooler - lower temps will help the life of your processor and give you potentially a better chance at a high OC, the cooler it runs the higher you can go (PSU permitting).


You can upgrade AGP to a 7800GT. And that's not too shabby. I'll get the D805. But I'm really only looking for RAM/Mobo/Fan combination that'll get me to 3.4, and be comftorble under load. In absolutely no way am I insane enough to try for 3.8-4.0Ghz. Well, I'm insane enough, but dont really want it. Will the DDR2 really help the overclock, if i'm only going for a bit of one, and not going absolutely mad, with 3.8 or anything?

Thanks :D 
June 25, 2006 10:20:11 PM

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Get a motherboard that has PCI-E - Newer graphic card technology not old AGP
Get RAM that is DDR2 - Newer RAM Technology not DDR old ram.
Get a PCI-E Graphic Card.
Get the D805 Processor - Especially if this is your first OC, very easy to do and if you fry it, your out of pocket the least amount.
Get a cooler - lower temps will help the life of your processor and give you potentially a better chance at a high OC, the cooler it runs the higher you can go (PSU permitting).


You can upgrade AGP to a 7800GT. And that's not too shabby. I'll get the D805. But I'm really only looking for RAM/Mobo/Fan combination that'll get me to 3.4, and be comftorble under load. In absolutely no way am I insane enough to try for 3.8-4.0Ghz. Well, I'm insane enough, but dont really want it. Will the DDR2 really help the overclock, if i'm only going for a bit of one, and not going absolutely mad, with 3.8 or anything?

Thanks :D 

Yes you can go to 7800GT, but really they are bring these out for the people that spend big $$$ on their systems already a couple of years ago.

Computers have a limited enough upgrade path these days without buying old to start with.

Like I said, if you had the ram and graphic card already, then sure upgrade to the motherboard you are looking at as a way to save some dollars for a while.

Bottom line is that agp is dead in the latest realease boards as is DDR ram. Even AMD has now gone to DDR2.
June 25, 2006 10:32:21 PM

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Yes you can go to 7800GT, but really they are bring these out for the people that spend big $$$ on their systems already a couple of years ago.

Computers have a limited enough upgrade path these days without buying old to start with.

Like I said, if you had the ram and graphic card already, then sure upgrade to the motherboard you are looking at as a way to save some dollars for a while.

Bottom line is that agp is dead in the latest realease boards as is DDR ram. Even AMD has now gone to DDR2.


So perhaps I should upgrade to a Asus P5LD2-VM, or something. It's got PCI-E, isnt unbeleivably expensive, supports DDR2 667/533/400 and all that. Now, could I get some PC4200 RAM with that (533Mhz), and overclock that. It'd be Corsir Value RAM, so nothing amazing, but good quality.
June 25, 2006 10:43:06 PM

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Yes you can go to 7800GT, but really they are bring these out for the people that spend big $$$ on their systems already a couple of years ago.

Computers have a limited enough upgrade path these days without buying old to start with.

Like I said, if you had the ram and graphic card already, then sure upgrade to the motherboard you are looking at as a way to save some dollars for a while.

Bottom line is that agp is dead in the latest realease boards as is DDR ram. Even AMD has now gone to DDR2.


So perhaps I should upgrade to a Asus P5LD2-VM, or something. It's got PCI-E, isnt unbeleivably expensive, supports DDR2 667/533/400 and all that. Now, could I get some PC4200 RAM with that (533Mhz), and overclock that. It'd be Corsir Value RAM, so nothing amazing, but good quality.

What about the P5LD2-V or the one I have used, P5ND2-SLI. Not sure about the OC ability of the P5LD2-VM.

You do need a board that will give you some good OC features/freedom.
June 25, 2006 10:54:41 PM

Check to see if anyone has actually OC the motherboard you like before you purchase.
June 26, 2006 10:47:53 AM

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What about the P5LD2-V or the one I have used, P5ND2-SLI. Not sure about the OC ability of the P5LD2-VM.

You do need a board that will give you some good OC features/freedom.


I cant get those two models at my favourite supplier lol. According to the Asus website, the board comes enough overclocking features, including:

[*:0cabbb22f1]vCore: Adjustable CPU voltage at 0.0125 increment
[*:0cabbb22f1]SFS (Stepless Frequency Selection): allowing FSB tuning from 100MHz up to 450MHz at 1MHz increment
[*:0cabbb22f1]Adjustable FSB/DDR ratio. Fixed PCI/PCIe frequencies.

It's also got a feature, apparantly, to unlock the multiplier. I dont know if thats effective or not, but you can always NOT use it, I suppose. Seeing as its the same family as your motherboard, I think it shoudl be OK. I read a few reviews where people have said they got the D805 up to 3.4 without a hitch at all. I think combinniing it with some good DDR2-PC4200 RAM should work.
June 26, 2006 11:36:35 AM

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What about the P5LD2-V or the one I have used, P5ND2-SLI. Not sure about the OC ability of the P5LD2-VM.

You do need a board that will give you some good OC features/freedom.


I cant get those two models at my favourite supplier lol. According to the Asus website, the board comes enough overclocking features, including:

[*:61a1f2150a]vCore: Adjustable CPU voltage at 0.0125 increment
[*:61a1f2150a]SFS (Stepless Frequency Selection): allowing FSB tuning from 100MHz up to 450MHz at 1MHz increment
[*:61a1f2150a]Adjustable FSB/DDR ratio. Fixed PCI/PCIe frequencies.

It's also got a feature, apparantly, to unlock the multiplier. I dont know if thats effective or not, but you can always NOT use it, I suppose. Seeing as its the same family as your motherboard, I think it shoudl be OK. I read a few reviews where people have said they got the D805 up to 3.4 without a hitch at all. I think combinniing it with some good DDR2-PC4200 RAM should work.

Same Brand, not the same family. Mine uses the Nvidia chipset, the 945 is intel based.

But if it's in your price range then give it a go. It does have similar OC features as mine.

I think if you get some corsair VS PC4200 or better you should be away.
June 26, 2006 1:58:52 PM

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Same Brand, not the same family. Mine uses the Nvidia chipset, the 945 is intel based.

But if it's in your price range then give it a go. It does have similar OC features as mine.

I think if you get some corsair VS PC4200 or better you should be away.


So, right: Revised items:

[*:156b8b09e7]My Provisional Setup:
[*:156b8b09e7]Antec Sonata II - With 450W SmartPower2.0 PSU
[*:156b8b09e7]Intel Pentium D 805 2.66 GHz
[*:156b8b09e7]2x Western Digital 200GB
[*:156b8b09e7]2x DVD-RW
[*:156b8b09e7]Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro Cooler Fan
[*:156b8b09e7]Asus P5LD2-VM
[*:156b8b09e7]2x Crucial 512MB DDR2 PC4200
[*:156b8b09e7]6600GT GFX

The only thing I've got to think about now is the cooling fan. As I said, so I'm not too worried about getting an insane overclock. I've looked around at my suppliers site, and there isnt a LOT of choice, but they've got a lot of fair stuff.

[*:156b8b09e7]Possible Cooling Fans:
[*:156b8b09e7]Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro
[*:156b8b09e7]Zalman CNPS7700-ALCU, or CNPS7700-CU.
[*:156b8b09e7]CoolerMaster Hyper L3, or Hyper 48

Something I AM concerned about is having a LIGHT processor fan. I know some of them can get up to 800-1000g, and my PC is generally moved abotu quite a lot. LAN parties often mean it can take a bit of a bashing in a car, and I dont want any risk of having it cause damage to the board or the oprocessor because of a huge weight or anything. The Freezer 7 Pro and the Hyper L3 look OK to me. They're not too expensive (about £20), and seem to cool relatively good, and they arent the size of a truck, and the weight of one.
June 26, 2006 9:10:01 PM

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Same Brand, not the same family. Mine uses the Nvidia chipset, the 945 is intel based.

But if it's in your price range then give it a go. It does have similar OC features as mine.

I think if you get some corsair VS PC4200 or better you should be away.


So, right: Revised items:

[*:cd541a1321]My Provisional Setup:
[*:cd541a1321]Antec Sonata II - With 450W SmartPower2.0 PSU
[*:cd541a1321]Intel Pentium D 805 2.66 GHz
[*:cd541a1321]2x Western Digital 200GB
[*:cd541a1321]2x DVD-RW
[*:cd541a1321]Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro Cooler Fan
[*:cd541a1321]Asus P5LD2-VM
[*:cd541a1321]2x Crucial 512MB DDR2 PC4200
[*:cd541a1321]6600GT GFX

The only thing I've got to think about now is the cooling fan. As I said, so I'm not too worried about getting an insane overclock. I've looked around at my suppliers site, and there isnt a LOT of choice, but they've got a lot of fair stuff.

[*:cd541a1321]Possible Cooling Fans:
[*:cd541a1321]Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro
[*:cd541a1321]Zalman CNPS7700-ALCU, or CNPS7700-CU.
[*:cd541a1321]CoolerMaster Hyper L3, or Hyper 48

Something I AM concerned about is having a LIGHT processor fan. I know some of them can get up to 800-1000g, and my PC is generally moved abotu quite a lot. LAN parties often mean it can take a bit of a bashing in a car, and I dont want any risk of having it cause damage to the board or the oprocessor because of a huge weight or anything. The Freezer 7 Pro and the Hyper L3 look OK to me. They're not too expensive (about £20), and seem to cool relatively good, and they arent the size of a truck, and the weight of one.

The P5LD2-VM doesn't say much about OCing, but it sounds like you have checked it out. It wouldn't be my first choice.

As for the cooling, lots and lots of people have OC the D805 with the stock cooler, so I would think any quality after martket cooler can only be better.
June 26, 2006 11:04:24 PM

to be honest the stock cooler is perfectly fine for anythin upto 3.7. I had to upgrade to a Zalman (can't remember model, my good friend Jack is messing with my memory), which is stable up to 4.0ghz, but i left mine at 3.8.

It is a REALLY quick CPU, but if i was buying now i would spend the extra few pounds and get a 9** series. A friend of mine has one, and it blows my 805 away in everything (heat, power usage etc).

So my conclusion, stick with the stock cooler on the 805 and spend the extra cash on a better power supply, you're guna need it!
June 26, 2006 11:21:53 PM

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to be honest the stock cooler is perfectly fine for anythin upto 3.7. I had to upgrade to a Zalman (can't remember model, my good friend Jack is messing with my memory), which is stable up to 4.0ghz, but i left mine at 3.8.

It is a REALLY quick CPU, but if i was buying now i would spend the extra few pounds and get a 9** series. A friend of mine has one, and it blows my 805 away in everything (heat, power usage etc).

So my conclusion, stick with the stock cooler on the 805 and spend the extra cash on a better power supply, you're guna need it!


I completely forgot about the PSU. Will 450W really not cover a small overclock?

Wow @ the stock cooler though. I should expect I'll bung on one of those Arctic Cooler ones, because then I wont have to faff around with a different back panel, or any extra cooling gel (it comes already opn the fan).

I managed to overclock a normal Pentium4 3Ghz up to 3.32Ghz with just the stock cooler, and thats in one of those tiny cases with a single PCI card clot, about 8" wide, and 12" high, you know the one I mean. These Pentium chips overclock well...
June 26, 2006 11:26:11 PM

That 3ghz o/c you did is nothing compared to what the D805 is capable of. A 450watt supply should be enough for what you're using (6600gt etc), just make sure it's a good quality 450 watt.

Just as important as a good CPU cooler is a case with good airflow, this wil, also help with overclocking.
June 26, 2006 11:28:07 PM

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What about the P5LD2-V or the one I have used, P5ND2-SLI. Not sure about the OC ability of the P5LD2-VM.

You do need a board that will give you some good OC features/freedom.


I cant get those two models at my favourite supplier lol. According to the Asus website, the board comes enough overclocking features, including:

[*:8dda49b93f]vCore: Adjustable CPU voltage at 0.0125 increment
[*:8dda49b93f]SFS (Stepless Frequency Selection): allowing FSB tuning from 100MHz up to 450MHz at 1MHz increment
[*:8dda49b93f]Adjustable FSB/DDR ratio. Fixed PCI/PCIe frequencies.

It's also got a feature, apparantly, to unlock the multiplier. I dont know if thats effective or not, but you can always NOT use it, I suppose. Seeing as its the same family as your motherboard, I think it shoudl be OK. I read a few reviews where people have said they got the D805 up to 3.4 without a hitch at all. I think combinniing it with some good DDR2-PC4200 RAM should work.

Meant to say to you the link you have attached in not for the VM model.

That is for the V model and is different to the VM. The VM does however appear to have some OC feature though.

EDIT: Had a quick look at the ASUS Forum and it appears a couple of people have had some success with OCing this motherboard.
June 27, 2006 6:50:37 AM

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That 3ghz o/c you did is nothing compared to what the D805 is capable of. A 450watt supply should be enough for what you're using (6600gt etc), just make sure it's a good quality 450 watt.

Just as important as a good CPU cooler is a case with good airflow, this wil, also help with overclocking.


Yeah, I WAS going to get a junky case and a good PSU, but then I noticed that the Sonata II case was only £65 or something with the PSU included, so I went for it.

I'm also going to use rounded IDE cables, no floppy drives, and proper cable routing to minimise cable clutter round the case. Hopefully it wont look like so many of my builds - messy :D 
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