Should i go for an FX57? Opinions....

Yes, it's still the fastest single-core processor on the market. It even beats the FX-60, and FX-62 in some things, but if you're going to spend $500+ on a processor, why not get a Dual-core?

wait for conroe to be released and then make your choice.

well the that is just stupid. Even the basic conre beats the FX60.

Only you know your usage patterns. The FX-57 is a great gaming processor, but the FX-60 is also, but more so in games that take advantage of dual-core. Don't forget the FX-57 has a 200MHz advantage, which helps in single threaded apps. If you multi-task, or do video encoding, or any heavy-duty media work, than the FX-60 would be better. You have to decide whether the extra $150 is worth it to you. GL

In my opinion that would be dumb. You could buy an entire AM2 system for $500 with a decent cpu. Then you could upgrade when the 65nm X2's come out and drop in price.

Alright guys thanks for your advice, i think i might just go for the FX57 seeing as i dont do many things the would benifit from dual core and i mostly play games. The reason i said that im not considering Conroe is cause i have an AMD board and i dont want to have the bother of getting a new one when my current one is only a couple of months old (a good one too), and also i dont see the need for an extra powerful/fast CPU cause i only need something thats powerful enough to play games and handle any up coming high end graphics cards. An FX57 will be future proof right?

I know, but our role here is to offer him the advise he asked, not try and force him to see things our way. I agree, Conroe is better, but he stated right away(because he knew most people would suggest it) that Conroe isn't an option, and we should respect that.

Well said, Tank.

I know, but our role here is to offer him the advise he asked, not try and force him to see things our way. I agree, Conroe is better, but he stated right away(because he knew most people would suggest it) that Conroe isn't an option, and we should respect that.

Well said, Tank.

so why is he asking for advice if he's going to do what he wants to do? single core is not future proof. in short, he's wasting money by not investing in a new mobo and parts. could easily sell it, since you could get a conroe with a mobo that beats the price of just that processor. not to mention performance is better also. tell me, are you trying to offer beneficial advice or just narrow advice? get with the times. they aren't trying to force him to see their way, it's just the seemingly best option whether they like it or not also. but in his way, dual core is just simply the more beneficial way to go, so i guess the fx 60 in his case. but even that is a dead end eventually keeping his current 939 socket. sure the amd choices are the best currently, future options from intel, are better. if prices drop when intel ships out conroe, like people said, wait until it arrives, then pick, that's the best said thing if you ask me.

edit : whoops, made a mistake up earlier

I don't really think $500 could buy a High-end AM2 Mobo and 2GBs of RAM(Corsair premium to boot)... not to mention that getting 3+GHz on a X2 with stock cooling isn't really guaranteed.

before u drop 500 bux u could try to overblock your 3700... get a decent cooler for it and try to hit fx57 speeds, you may not be able to without water cooling but its worth a shot, i always thought fx series were a bit overpriced and not worth the money, there more of bragging rights... then again it is over 200 bux off retail so u could try it... i just dont think its worth the 500 dollars for it, if u want to boost gaming performance id get the 7950gt2 or whatevr... or maybe just save the money for a next upgrade or games comming out ... but its ur money do what u wish

Wait for the price drop by the end of the year., If money is burnig your pocket you may buy second GFX card. What games and at what resolution you are playing?

Well i am starting to play high end games and will now always be playing them so i definately need my system to always be able to take on upcoming demanding games at full detail/settings. At the moment i play games at 1024res. but cant go much higher cause only got a 19', and besides my one and only really high end game at the moment (FEAR) is just barely playable on MAX settings at that Resolution. Played Bf2 on that res but i could probly run it okay on 1280x1024 now.... On your suggestion of getting a second GTX, i have deeply considered that and come to the conclusion that my CPU would definately not manage 7800GTX's in SLI let alone single, which brings me back to considering a more powerful CPU (hence my frustration...)

after a certain point in ur cpu power u will only get marginal gains in perforamnce, as this kid just said... but upgrading to sli will give a much bigger boost, especially in games like fear. fear is a VERY demanding game for a 7800gtx, the cpu is plenty powerful ATM

I suppose another 7800GTX will be a good bit cheaper than getting a new CPU (especially FX57). The only thing though is that i dont want to run into a problem where a few months after getting my SLI 7800GTX setup a new better range comes out (alternative and superior to SLI) and ive wasted money again. Knowing my luck this is very likely to happen Anyway apart from that rambling i like the idea of going SLI and may come to a solid decision on it if i get a few more ppls opinions on this option (second card). It would be great to not have to worry about framerate anymore...

Well it is still the fastest single core desktop.

Not one that's gonna beat his current setup.

So your saying a 65nm X2 at 3+ghz is not going to outperform a single core 3700+?
Thats why you take advice with a grain of salt around here, some people are just plain uneducated. You're such a 'tard. Use your eyes. I said "not in his price range". Sound it out. NOT.....IN......HIS.....PRICE......RANGE! There, understand now? What x2 @ 3GHz plus are you talking about....They don't exist. Remember, you're the one who insists that Conroe doesn't exist, and all the site are benching them. Which sites have benched a 3GHz+ x2? AND, you really think he can get that processor and a mobo and RAM for $530? You really do live in a toilet bowl. You must have rapid onset Alzheimers.

Oh and If I really wanted to be mean to you I would say "Fx57 and fx60 are both great if you have extra cash go buy a fx60 it will be much better", now that is mean , spending $640 on a processor which will cost about 250-300$ in 2 more months ( just an assumption ) and still be worthless against the conroe ( please bear with me people, the reason I say this is not because I am a fanboy or something but only because I know that future game releases are going to be conroe optimized, just like future AMD Processor optimizations are going to be in tomorrows games )

Sorry that I keep rambling on but I have one more thing to say
I myself made a HUGE mistake on buying a Prescott 3000, it was the biggest mistake I ever made and the reason I made it was because some s**t-head fanboy said that "It works so good and smooth its a great system I suggest that your next upgrade be a Intel" and that I was such a dumb-ass and never researched the real story thus causing me to lose a lot of money on nothing, this is why I respond this way, based on my own experience and please don’t make the same mistake that I did, from that day on I research on everything I want to buy and visit THG and its forums everyday to learn more about up-coming and existing products.
and one again I apologize for any harm done, I am not the kind of person to bash another and if I did then I am the idiot, I don't like to wrong people and if I accidentally did I'm not afraid of saying I'm sorry or too proud to say that I acted like a jackass.

So in this case, I'm sorry and I acted like a jackass, please forgive me

WTH does Conroe optimized mean? I've now heard it alll.

Aren't you a programmer?

Ok then lets do the math shall we
currently he has the following

Athlon 64 3700+
Asus A8n-SLI Premium
Seasonic 600W PSU
2Gigs Corsair Xms RAM |3-3-3-8|
Xfx geforce 7800Gtx (475Mhz)
WD Raptor 150GB
Monitor - LG Flatron 19" LCD

now by selling the 3700+, Asus A8n, 2 gigs corsair xms and 7800gtx how much do you think he'll get?
my estimate is about 150+150+130+340=770$
now a new E6600 is estimated at about=316$
a Motherboard with a 965 or 975 chipset=200$ D975XBX
2 gigs of Value ram ( better price )=180$ ocz pc2-5400 ddr2
that equals a sum of: $696
now a Geforce 7950 with 1 gig ram costs $600
600+696= 1296USD
you already have 770$ so 1296-770=526$
I think that the extra 26$ is worth it
( all used pc components were obtained from ebay )
( all new pc components were from Toms Hardware store )

WTH does Conroe optimized mean? I've now heard it alll.

Oh Baron, I’m shocked to see you ask that after all of the intelligent posts I have read from you in other topics ( I don’t know why but this sentence seemed just a little gay to me… ).Well nobody’s perfect and not everybody knows everything so I’ll explain what I know.

when you write a program it can be done in many ways, it can be optimized in many ways, what does optimization mean you say, it means to use something to its best advantage, which in processor terms means to use all possible instructions that exist in a cpu, some programs are AMD optimized ( sse,sse2,sse3,3dnow,3dnow+,etc... ) and some are Intel optimized ( sse,sse2,sse3, etc.. , but without 3dnow and 3dnow+ )
and some are both, but optimization doesn’t end here, for programmers knowing the architecture of the cpu and how it interacts with the memory and the rest of the components is very important also. Is it Dual-core or single core? If its optimized for dual core then the game will for ex. send real-world physics algorithms to the first core while the second does the rest, or maybe do something entirely different! Although processors are forced ( or they seem to be forced to me ) to be compatible with existing programs and games, the programs will always benefit by adding cpu optimizations to their programs this way the cpu can run the program without needing to "downgrade" itself (so to speak) so it can run at the programs level, your a gamer right? Ever seen the nvidia logo at the beginning of a game, that’s not there for advertising alone, but it there to also inform you that the game is nvidia optimized, nvidia games always run better on nvidia graphics as so the ATI games always run better on ATI graphics, although both graphics are using Directx 9.0+ and might seem that they should perform the same ( given that the are both identical in specs )they don’t, that’s because the program has optimizations for the hardware's architecture, just the way we have optimizations for our cpu, the only reason we don’t see any intel or amd logos anymore at the beginning of a game ( do note that I said “don’t see anymore” in the land of dos games we did for ex. the game Privateer a 3 cd game would show the intel logo and say that its intel optimized when a intel cpu was installed ) is because the use of cpu optimizations became common in the game world (although that still cant be said for programs, I have a video encoding program called TMPEG that even lets you choose what optimizations to use) but that’s about to change again (history repeats itself)

If what I said still seems fuzzy you can research some yourself and If I can contribute to your knowledge I would be glad to help