Intel's total collapse will be sooner than you expect

First, you need to grasp Intel's financial situation. That company is financially very very fragile right now.
Basically, at the end of Q1, Intel had $14.0 billion cash+short term investment, but also had $9.8 billion payments due, leaving only $4.2 billion net cash. But, Intel also had $2.6 billion of debt. Intel has 103K people to feed, they consume $3 billion per quarter. In 1Q06, Intel's free cash flow was only $0.3 billion.

For 2Q06, we heard enough bad news already. Intel stuffed the channel in Q1 and stuffed more in Q2 ( http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=32136 ). Intel CPUs prices crashed 40% and volume fell 21%. If Intel posts an operating loss for 2Q06, don't be surprised.

For 3Q06, the situation is even worse. Intel will slash Netbust price further, yet it won't be able to supply enough Conroes. DELL has no way to go, but AMD (see http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=32536 ). AMD is ramping production like crazy. AMD's unit output will increase by 50% in Q3. Intel will have lower prices and lower units for 3Q06. Operating loss is in the bag.

For 4Q06, Intel expects to ramp Conroe to 25% of the units. Unfortunately, by then, AMD's 65nm Rev G will be out. Intel will be still stuck with a huge pile of Netbust chips. Eventually, Intel will have to write off most of those and record massive losses.

Then comes 2007. K8L and Bulldozer will be out. Game over for Intel.

If you also consider stuff like impairment on goodwill, write off assets and other losses, Intel is simply in a hopeless situation.
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  1. Take this trash elsewhere fanboy!
  2. Quote:
    First, you need to grasp Intel's financial situation. That company is financially very very fragile right now. (see http://sharikou.blogspot.com/2006/05/intel-chapter-11-candidate.html )

    Basically, at the end of Q1, Intel had $14.0 billion cash+short term investment, but also had $9.8 billion payments due, leaving only $4.2 billion net cash. But, Intel also had $2.6 billion of debt. Intel has 103K people to feed, they consume $3 billion per quarter. In 1Q06, Intel's free cash flow was only $0.3 billion.

    For 2Q06, we heard enough bad news already. Intel stuffed the channel in Q1 and stuffed more in Q2 ( http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=32136 ). Intel CPUs prices crashed 40% and volume fell 21%. If Intel posts an operating loss for 2Q06, don't be surprised.

    For 3Q06, the situation is even worse. Intel will slash Netbust price further, yet it won't be able to supply enough Conroes. DELL has no way to go, but AMD (see http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=32536 ). AMD is ramping production like crazy. AMD's unit output will increase by 50% in Q3. Intel will have lower prices and lower units for 3Q06. Operating loss is in the bag.

    For 4Q06, Intel expects to ramp Conroe to 25% of the units. Unfortunately, by then, AMD's 65nm Rev G will be out. Intel will be still stuck with a huge pile of Netbust chips. Eventually, Intel will have to write off most of those and record massive losses.

    Then comes 2007. K8L and Bulldozer will be out. Game over for Intel.

    If you also consider stuff like impairment on goodwill, write off assets and other losses, Intel is simply in a hopeless situation.

    http://sharikou.blogspot.com/2006/06/intel-may-suffer-losses-in-2q06-3q06.html


    FUDMAN Cometh :roll:
  3. Why don't you stay here coward? Why don't you have a site instead of some sh!tty pathetic blog?
  4. Why do you link to your own posts as proof?
  5. Well since we're linking to the inquirer heres a good article for you.

    Link.
  6. Hahaha, owned again. We'll have to release a best of sharikou getting owned DVD as well. We could also release a double DVD of BM and sharikou.
  7. Quote:
    Why don't you stay here coward? Why don't you have a site instead of some sh!tty pathetic blog?


    :) What is sad is that Google actually hit's blogs as pertinent info.... therefore we need to ensure that it does not go unchallenged....

    He should explain the 10 year trends (data I have posted before):

    Year....Net Sales....Operating Income (Loss) in Millions....Net Income (Loss)
    1994....2155.........469................................271
    1995....2468.........222................................216
    1996....1953.........(253).............................(69)
    1997....2356.........(91)..............................(21)
    1998....2542.........(163).............................(104)
    1999....2857.........(321).............................(89)
    2000....4644.........888...............................983
    2001....3891.........(58 )..............................(60)
    2002....2697.........(1225)............................(1303)
    2003....3519.........(233).............................(110)
    2004....5000.........222................................91

    2005
    2005..q1..1272.......(45)..............................(17)
    2005..q2..1260.......(7)...............................(30)
    2005..q3..1522........79...............................(31)
    2005..q4..1838........205...............................96
    ===========================================================

    AMD: Cumulative 11 year net income (-178 million)
    (Source: http://www.amd.com/us-en/Corporate/InvestorRelations/0,,51_306_5147,00.html )


    Year....Net Sales....Operating Income (Loss) in Millions....Net Income (Loss)

    1994....11521.........3387..............................2288
    1995....16202.........5252..............................3566
    1996....20847.........7553..............................5157
    1997....25070.........9887..............................6945
    1998....26273.........8379..............................6068
    1999....29389.........9767..............................7314
    2000....33726.........10395.............................10535
    2001....26539.........2256..............................1291
    2002....26764.........4382..............................3117
    2003....30141.........7533..............................5641
    2004....34209.........10130.............................7516
    2005....38826.........12090.............................8664

    INTEL: Cumulative 11 year net income 57100 million i.e. Profit 57.1 billion
    (source: http://www.intel.com/intel/finance/annual.htm?iid=InvRel+LeftNav_Annual_Reports& )That info isn't from sharikoo.blogspot.com, thus it isn't legitimate. :wink:
  8. Please people, do not go to his blog hes just fishing for traffic. Instead just ridicule him in the topics he creates so they'll get locked and pushed off the front page.
  9. -Opteron owned Xeon for 3 years performance-wise, and what did that get AMD? 13% marketshare. Oh WOW! :roll:
    -sharikou is a retard.
    -Early benchmarks indicate Woodcrest taking back the performance lead.
    -sharikou's PhD is for romantic poetry.
    -AMD is growing but still incomparable to Intel in terms of sheer size, etc.
    -sharikou isn't paid by AMD, even AMD is shaking their heads and saying "WTF is this guy smoking?"
    -Intel is a lot better off financially than you make it out to be.
    -sharikou is scared of the real knowledgeable people calling his BS so he makes a topic then runs back to his blog.
    -I will remember your statement, and come 2007/8 I will quote you on it. Then you'll look real clever. :wink:
    -sharikou thinks he is an expert on everything from economics to hardware development to espionage, since he obviously stealthily followed Anand lal Shimpi and obtained irrevocable evidence that he deems concrete enough to protect him from a libel lawsuit(its the internet, we can only dream).
    -Have a nice day, retard.
    Oh and this is what we think of you

    We just love insulting you.
  10. Quote:
    First, you need to grasp Intel's financial situation. That company is financially very very fragile right now. (see http://sharikou.blogspot.com/2006/05/intel-chapter-11-candidate.html )

    Basically, at the end of Q1, Intel had $14.0 billion cash+short term investment, but also had $9.8 billion payments due, leaving only $4.2 billion net cash. But, Intel also had $2.6 billion of debt. Intel has 103K people to feed, they consume $3 billion per quarter. In 1Q06, Intel's free cash flow was only $0.3 billion.

    For 2Q06, we heard enough bad news already. Intel stuffed the channel in Q1 and stuffed more in Q2 ( http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=32136 ). Intel CPUs prices crashed 40% and volume fell 21%. If Intel posts an operating loss for 2Q06, don't be surprised.

    For 3Q06, the situation is even worse. Intel will slash Netbust price further, yet it won't be able to supply enough Conroes. DELL has no way to go, but AMD (see http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=32536 ). AMD is ramping production like crazy. AMD's unit output will increase by 50% in Q3. Intel will have lower prices and lower units for 3Q06. Operating loss is in the bag.

    For 4Q06, Intel expects to ramp Conroe to 25% of the units. Unfortunately, by then, AMD's 65nm Rev G will be out. Intel will be still stuck with a huge pile of Netbust chips. Eventually, Intel will have to write off most of those and record massive losses.

    Then comes 2007. K8L and Bulldozer will be out. Game over for Intel.

    If you also consider stuff like impairment on goodwill, write off assets and other losses, Intel is simply in a hopeless situation.

    http://sharikou.blogspot.com/2006/06/intel-may-suffer-losses-in-2q06-3q06.html



    Please, I beg of you, lay off the crack pipe. For your own heatlh if nothing else.
  11. Quote:
    -Opteron owned Xeon for 3 years performance-wise, and what did that get AMD? 13% marketshare. Oh WOW! :roll:
    -sharikou is a retard.
    -Early benchmarks indicate Woodcrest taking back the performance lead.
    -sharikou's PhD is for romantic poetry.
    -AMD is growing but still incomparable to Intel in terms of sheer size, etc.
    -sharikou isn't paid by AMD, even AMD is shaking their heads and saying "WTF is this guy smoking?"
    -Intel is a lot better off financially than you make it out to be.
    -sharikou is scared of the real knowledgeable people calling his BS so he makes a topic then runs back to his blog.
    -I will remember your statement, and come 2007/8 I will quote you on it. Then you'll look real clever. :wink:
    -sharikou thinks he is an expert on everything from economics to hardware development to espionage, since he obviously stealthily followed Anand lal Shimpi and obtained irrevocable evidence that he deems concrete enough to protect him from a libel lawsuit(its the internet, we can only dream).
    -Have a nice day, retard.
    Oh and this is what we think of you

    We just love insulting you.
    Love that meter. Please, where can i get one? :P
  12. Quote:
    First, you need to grasp Intel's financial situation. That company is financially very very fragile right now. (see http://sharikou.blogspot.com/2006/05/intel-chapter-11-candidate.html )

    Basically, at the end of Q1, Intel had $14.0 billion cash+short term investment, but also had $9.8 billion payments due, leaving only $4.2 billion net cash. But, Intel also had $2.6 billion of debt. Intel has 103K people to feed, they consume $3 billion per quarter. In 1Q06, Intel's free cash flow was only $0.3 billion.

    For 2Q06, we heard enough bad news already. Intel stuffed the channel in Q1 and stuffed more in Q2 ( http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=32136 ). Intel CPUs prices crashed 40% and volume fell 21%. If Intel posts an operating loss for 2Q06, don't be surprised.

    For 3Q06, the situation is even worse. Intel will slash Netbust price further, yet it won't be able to supply enough Conroes. DELL has no way to go, but AMD (see http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=32536 ). AMD is ramping production like crazy. AMD's unit output will increase by 50% in Q3. Intel will have lower prices and lower units for 3Q06. Operating loss is in the bag.

    For 4Q06, Intel expects to ramp Conroe to 25% of the units. Unfortunately, by then, AMD's 65nm Rev G will be out. Intel will be still stuck with a huge pile of Netbust chips. Eventually, Intel will have to write off most of those and record massive losses.

    Then comes 2007. K8L and Bulldozer will be out. Game over for Intel.

    If you also consider stuff like impairment on goodwill, write off assets and other losses, Intel is simply in a hopeless situation.

    http://sharikou.blogspot.com/2006/06/intel-may-suffer-losses-in-2q06-3q06.html


    Why the hell do u bother writing this c***. Just go away u tiresome little man
  13. Quote:
    First, you need to grasp Intel's financial situation. That company is financially very very fragile right now. (see http://sharikou.blogspot.com/2006/05/intel-chapter-11-candidate.html )

    Basically, at the end of Q1, Intel had $14.0 billion cash+short term investment, but also had $9.8 billion payments due, leaving only $4.2 billion net cash. But, Intel also had $2.6 billion of debt. Intel has 103K people to feed, they consume $3 billion per quarter. In 1Q06, Intel's free cash flow was only $0.3 billion.

    For 2Q06, we heard enough bad news already. Intel stuffed the channel in Q1 and stuffed more in Q2 ( http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=32136 ). Intel CPUs prices crashed 40% and volume fell 21%. If Intel posts an operating loss for 2Q06, don't be surprised.

    For 3Q06, the situation is even worse. Intel will slash Netbust price further, yet it won't be able to supply enough Conroes. DELL has no way to go, but AMD (see http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=32536 ). AMD is ramping production like crazy. AMD's unit output will increase by 50% in Q3. Intel will have lower prices and lower units for 3Q06. Operating loss is in the bag.

    For 4Q06, Intel expects to ramp Conroe to 25% of the units. Unfortunately, by then, AMD's 65nm Rev G will be out. Intel will be still stuck with a huge pile of Netbust chips. Eventually, Intel will have to write off most of those and record massive losses.

    Then comes 2007. K8L and Bulldozer will be out. Game over for Intel.

    If you also consider stuff like impairment on goodwill, write off assets and other losses, Intel is simply in a hopeless situation.

    http://sharikou.blogspot.com/2006/06/intel-may-suffer-losses-in-2q06-3q06.html

    Shakira, everything you said is so true!
    Don't listen to these inteloids, just ignore them and everything will be allright. I am more curious, I knew that AMD ahs the power to destroy Intel, but they are so kind and they let Intel live for a while. And those inteloids have no respect for that. Lets ignore them, Shakira, AMD will be the best no matter what inteloids are saying!
  14. heh if you read the reports when AMD was loosing with the AthlonXP you would crap your self :roll:


    Quote:
    First, you need to grasp Intel's financial situation. That company is financially very very fragile right now. (see http://sharikou.blogspot.com/2006/05/intel-chapter-11-candidate.html )

    Basically, at the end of Q1, Intel had $14.0 billion cash+short term investment, but also had $9.8 billion payments due, leaving only $4.2 billion net cash. But, Intel also had $2.6 billion of debt. Intel has 103K people to feed, they consume $3 billion per quarter. In 1Q06, Intel's free cash flow was only $0.3 billion.

    For 2Q06, we heard enough bad news already. Intel stuffed the channel in Q1 and stuffed more in Q2 ( http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=32136 ). Intel CPUs prices crashed 40% and volume fell 21%. If Intel posts an operating loss for 2Q06, don't be surprised.

    For 3Q06, the situation is even worse. Intel will slash Netbust price further, yet it won't be able to supply enough Conroes. DELL has no way to go, but AMD (see http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=32536 ). AMD is ramping production like crazy. AMD's unit output will increase by 50% in Q3. Intel will have lower prices and lower units for 3Q06. Operating loss is in the bag.

    For 4Q06, Intel expects to ramp Conroe to 25% of the units. Unfortunately, by then, AMD's 65nm Rev G will be out. Intel will be still stuck with a huge pile of Netbust chips. Eventually, Intel will have to write off most of those and record massive losses.

    Then comes 2007. K8L and Bulldozer will be out. Game over for Intel.

    If you also consider stuff like impairment on goodwill, write off assets and other losses, Intel is simply in a hopeless situation.

    http://sharikou.blogspot.com/2006/06/intel-may-suffer-losses-in-2q06-3q06.html
  15. Ha.Ha.Ha.
  16. This kind of stuff makes me want to buy a VIA chip.
  17. This type of stuff makes me want a 3 way market, more fanboys = more laughs for me!
  18. Quote:
    This kind of stuff makes me want to buy a VIA chip.


    hehehe :)
  19. Are you kidding me ?, you do know how much smaller amd is then intel right ??? you must know that. Plz take your biased, unlogical opinions some where else you moron. Why do you like amd soo much, personally I cannot stand that I cannot overclock my amd processor that much, and that all of my intels overclocked like monsters even my Pentium 1. Its almost made me switch back to intel, and I cannot wait for the core 2.
  20. Intel is one of the richest companies in the world, while YOUR company tries to sell $20k crap computers so who is going to collapse?
  21. Quote:
    Intel is one of the richest companies in the world, while YOUR company tries to sell $20k crap computers so who is going to collapse?


    OK, Ycon Don't be so Bias towards Intel. Remember these few Sayings

    Quote:
    The Bigger they are the harder they fall.


    and

    Quote:
    If You Build It, Nerds Will come.


    and

    Quote:
    AMD is so small they have nothing to loose but everything to gain. But Intel Is so large, they Have everything to loose nothing to gain.
    (REad this one a few times and think how much Processers and Chips Intel has out in the world so far, From Intel486-all the way to Core Duo and the unborn Core 2 Duo)Probbaly Billions if counted from every product with the name Intel printed on it

    Quote:
    President Hirohito: You are American?
    Red: Yes.
    President Hirohito: [begins to gesture] Ogh! You must have very big pee-anis!
    Red: Excuse me? I was just asking you what you're up to with these toys!
    President Hirohito: Nothing. We are very simple people. With very small penis. Mr. Ose penis is …especially small.
    Mr. Ose: [fakes a sob] Uh, smuh, so small.
    President Hirohito: We cannot achieve much with so small penis. But you! Americans. Wow! Penis so big! SOOO big penis!
  22. Is your anal dildo powered by an AMD cpu or something you idiot? Please go away! If you plan on starting a legitimate topic and stick around to defend your points that's fine. But to keep posting this idiotic stuff and running back to your chickensh*t blog is getting ridiculous.

    Here is an idea for you: Stick to your blog and your fellow idiot supporters and stop being an attention whore on this forum.
  23. Quote:
    Why don't you stay here coward? Why don't you have a site instead of some sh!tty pathetic blog?


    :) What is sad is that Google actually hit's blogs as pertinent info.... therefore we need to ensure that it does not go unchallenged....

    He should explain the 10 year trends (data I have posted before):

    Year....Net Sales....Operating Income (Loss) in Millions....Net Income (Loss)
    1994....2155.........469................................271
    1995....2468.........222................................216
    1996....1953.........(253).............................(69)
    1997....2356.........(91)..............................(21)
    1998....2542.........(163).............................(104)
    1999....2857.........(321).............................(89)
    2000....4644.........888...............................983
    2001....3891.........(58 )..............................(60)
    2002....2697.........(1225)............................(1303)
    2003....3519.........(233).............................(110)
    2004....5000.........222................................91

    2005
    2005..q1..1272.......(45)..............................(17)
    2005..q2..1260.......(7)...............................(30)
    2005..q3..1522........79...............................(31)
    2005..q4..1838........205...............................96
    ===========================================================

    AMD: Cumulative 11 year net income (178 million)
    (Source: http://www.amd.com/us-en/Corporate/InvestorRelations/0,,51_306_5147,00.html )


    Year....Net Sales....Operating Income (Loss) in Millions....Net Income (Loss)

    1994....11521.........3387..............................2288
    1995....16202.........5252..............................3566
    1996....20847.........7553..............................5157
    1997....25070.........9887..............................6945
    1998....26273.........8379..............................6068
    1999....29389.........9767..............................7314
    2000....33726.........10395.............................10535
    2001....26539.........2256..............................1291
    2002....26764.........4382..............................3117
    2003....30141.........7533..............................5641
    2004....34209.........10130.............................7516
    2005....38826.........12090.............................8664

    INTEL: Cumulative 11 year net income 57100 million i.e. Profit 57.1 billion
    (source: http://www.intel.com/intel/finance/annual.htm?iid=InvRel+LeftNav_Annual_Reports& )

    What is funny to me is that no one at AMD seems to be concerned about money. How is it that a company that has only made 171 million in 11 years can somehow scrape together 6 billion dollars for 2 new fabs? Especially in light of them getting beat across the board by the core architecture.

    Seems crazy to me. But Shakira is probably right, Intel is teh doomed. It is amazing how 2 down quarters (Still profitable mind you, but not as profitable...) can bring about the demise of a company with billions in the bank.

    Can't you get banned for posting nothing but FUD? I mean really, her last 3 posts have all been locked and this is the worst one.
  24. Quote:
    Please people, do not go to his blog hes just fishing for traffic. Instead just ridicule him in the topics he creates so they'll get locked and pushed off the front page.


    For that matter, as soon as you notice one of these stupid threads get locked, everyone should do their part to bump old threads to get it off the first page ASAP.
  25. Quote:
    Take this trash elsewhere fanboy!


    Let's have some fun shall we, first the data:

    Here is a quick summary enumeration of the Core 2 Benching data to date, it has a mix of benchmarking that occurred under Intel supervision and benching that has occurred independently. I will likely redit this post, reogranize it from most comprehensive to least, then hand to Iterations to do with as he pleases.

    Intel Core 2 Duo x6800 - Extreme, E6700 and E6600 : HardInfo.com
    Intel Core2 Benchmarks : Firingsquad.com
    Intel Core 2 Duo - Dossier : Hardware.fr (French)
    Benchmarking Intel Conroe Core 2 : TweakTown.com
    Intel Conroe Performance Preview : Bit-Tech.Net
    Intel's Conroe Takes On The AMD Athlon 64 FX-62: First Official Benchmarks : TomsHardware.Com
    Intel Core 2 Duo (Conroe) E6400 and E6700: A Start to Be Remembered : DigitLife.com
    Core 2 Duo Performance Update : Extreme Tech
    Intel Core 2 Duo Performance Update : Hothardware.com

    Intel Core2 Duo Preview : tbreak.com
    Intel Core 2 Extreme X6800 Preview from Taiwan : Anandtech.com

    Core 2 E6400 and E6300 Review : PConline.com (Chinese)
    C2E X6800 VS AM2 FX62 : hkepc.com (Chinese)
    Intel's Conroe spanks AMD FX-62's botty - for real!!

    In sellling things it isn't about who has the best product, its about who sells the most. With the Dell deal and a loyal fanbase for AMD; plus some Apple deals, and more system builder deals than normal AMD is gaining market share, even if Core 2 is better.

    Example: How many netbust(inferior architecture) chips were sold compared to Athlon 64 (superior architecture). AMD is increasing production while Intel just laid of 16,000 people. Look at stocks, AMD's is 25.14USD and Intel's is 18.00USD, the stock market people have a little bit more experience for predicting sales then us.
  26. How stupid. A dumb post gets turned into a heap of bandwidth upchuck by the likes of people such as actionman who's childish personality only feeds the fire. His attempts to get in a minimum of 40 posts into each thread by attacking people with stupid cutdowns only leads us to believe that he has no life and spends hours upon hours trying to rule these forums with his adolescent attempts at comedy by trying to make someone look so dumb that he feels it eclipses his own smallness and in some way makes him look smart. NOT!
  27. Quote:
    Take this trash elsewhere fanboy!


    Let's have some fun shall we, first the data:

    Here is a quick summary enumeration of the Core 2 Benching data to date, it has a mix of benchmarking that occurred under Intel supervision and benching that has occurred independently. I will likely redit this post, reogranize it from most comprehensive to least, then hand to Iterations to do with as he pleases.

    Intel Core 2 Duo x6800 - Extreme, E6700 and E6600 : HardInfo.com
    Intel Core2 Benchmarks : Firingsquad.com
    Intel Core 2 Duo - Dossier : Hardware.fr (French)
    Benchmarking Intel Conroe Core 2 : TweakTown.com
    Intel Conroe Performance Preview : Bit-Tech.Net
    Intel's Conroe Takes On The AMD Athlon 64 FX-62: First Official Benchmarks : TomsHardware.Com
    Intel Core 2 Duo (Conroe) E6400 and E6700: A Start to Be Remembered : DigitLife.com
    Core 2 Duo Performance Update : Extreme Tech
    Intel Core 2 Duo Performance Update : Hothardware.com

    Intel Core2 Duo Preview : tbreak.com
    Intel Core 2 Extreme X6800 Preview from Taiwan : Anandtech.com

    Core 2 E6400 and E6300 Review : PConline.com (Chinese)
    C2E X6800 VS AM2 FX62 : hkepc.com (Chinese)
    Intel's Conroe spanks AMD FX-62's botty - for real!!

    In sellling things it isn't about who has the best product, its about who sells the most. With the Dell deal and a loyal fanbase for AMD; plus some Apple deals, and more system builder deals than normal AMD is gaining market share, even if Core 2 is better.

    Example: How many netbust(inferior architecture) chips were sold compared to Athlon 64 (superior architecture). AMD is increasing production while Intel just laid of 16,000 people. Look at stocks, AMD's is 25.14USD and Intel's is 18.00USD, the stock market people have a little bit more experience for predicting sales then us.

    Apparantly you dont remember 2002 (the last time intel had the better performing cpu) AMD gave the marketshare they had gained with athlon back to intel. And the performance delta between Northwood and AthlonXP was nowhere near what it is going to be when core 2 launches. AMD will have to sell their stuff very cheap just to maintain their market share let alone gain more.

    Oh and your stock price example is pretty uninformed. I suggest you look at the charts of the two stocks and see which way they are trending. Pretty scary time to be holding AMD if you ask me.
  28. Why Intel survive with inferior architecture? : Because AMD can't make enought proccesors to get more share.

    Can AMD survive with Intel. No without fanboys or dirty cheap processors.
  29. Quote:
    Take this trash elsewhere fanboy!


    Let's have some fun shall we, first the data:

    Here is a quick summary enumeration of the Core 2 Benching data to date, it has a mix of benchmarking that occurred under Intel supervision and benching that has occurred independently. I will likely redit this post, reogranize it from most comprehensive to least, then hand to Iterations to do with as he pleases.

    Intel Core 2 Duo x6800 - Extreme, E6700 and E6600 : HardInfo.com
    Intel Core2 Benchmarks : Firingsquad.com
    Intel Core 2 Duo - Dossier : Hardware.fr (French)
    Benchmarking Intel Conroe Core 2 : TweakTown.com
    Intel Conroe Performance Preview : Bit-Tech.Net
    Intel's Conroe Takes On The AMD Athlon 64 FX-62: First Official Benchmarks : TomsHardware.Com
    Intel Core 2 Duo (Conroe) E6400 and E6700: A Start to Be Remembered : DigitLife.com
    Core 2 Duo Performance Update : Extreme Tech
    Intel Core 2 Duo Performance Update : Hothardware.com

    Intel Core2 Duo Preview : tbreak.com
    Intel Core 2 Extreme X6800 Preview from Taiwan : Anandtech.com

    Core 2 E6400 and E6300 Review : PConline.com (Chinese)
    C2E X6800 VS AM2 FX62 : hkepc.com (Chinese)
    Intel's Conroe spanks AMD FX-62's botty - for real!!

    In sellling things it isn't about who has the best product, its about who sells the most. With the Dell deal and a loyal fanbase for AMD; plus some Apple deals, and more system builder deals than normal AMD is gaining market share, even if Core 2 is better.

    Example: How many netbust(inferior architecture) chips were sold compared to Athlon 64 (superior architecture). AMD is increasing production while Intel just laid of 16,000 people. Look at stocks, AMD's is 25.14USD and Intel's is 18.00USD, the stock market people have a little bit more experience for predicting sales then us.

    Intel hasn't laid off 16000 people. That was a rumor started in a blog. Yes Intel's stock is lower than AMD, there is a lot more to stock value than predicted sales. If that was the case, AMD's stock should be worth 20% of what Intel's stock is worth. Use your head.
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    Why do you link to your own posts as proof?


    0wned.

    Even AMD fanboys, like myself, are telling you to can it.
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    How stupid. A dumb post gets turned into a heap of bandwidth upchuck by the likes of people such as actionman who's childish personality only feeds the fire. His attempts to get in a minimum of 40 posts into each thread by attacking people with stupid cutdowns only leads us to believe that he has no life and spends hours upon hours trying to rule these forums with his adolescent attempts at comedy by trying to make someone look so dumb that he feels it eclipses his own smallness and in some way makes him look smart. NOT!


    "The likes of people" which presumably also includes you as well as you just contributed (I use the loosest form of that description). And myself too as I just contributed too...
  32. So with your oversized d***head youre gonna fall pretty hard, right? (If I may drop to your level)

    Do you think you sound smart?
  33. Quote:
    How stupid. A dumb post gets turned into a heap of bandwidth upchuck by the likes of people such as actionman who's childish personality only feeds the fire. His attempts to get in a minimum of 40 posts into each thread by attacking people with stupid cutdowns only leads us to believe that he has no life and spends hours upon hours trying to rule these forums with his adolescent attempts at comedy by trying to make someone look so dumb that he feels it eclipses his own smallness and in some way makes him look smart. NOT!

    I like Action_man becouse he is pain in your ass. He makes you nervous, angry and mad, and I am really enjoying it. Than you post such crap that is so much fun to read. Anyway, like many others who are not the terms I use to insult people like you, I don't like your apperance. Probably if you were somewhere near me I would like to psycho-physical torture you.
  34. Quote:
    How stupid. A dumb post gets turned into a heap of bandwidth upchuck by the likes of people such as actionman who's childish personality only feeds the fire. His attempts to get in a minimum of 40 posts into each thread by attacking people with stupid cutdowns only leads us to believe that he has no life and spends hours upon hours trying to rule these forums with his adolescent attempts at comedy by trying to make someone look so dumb that he feels it eclipses his own smallness and in some way makes him look smart. NOT!

    I like Action_man becouse he is pain in your ass. He makes you nervous, angry and mad, and I am really enjoying it. Than you post such crap that is so much fun to read. Anyway, like many others who are not the terms I use to insult people like you, I don't like your apperance. Probably if you were somewhere near me I would like to psycho-physical torture you.

    Please elaborate
  35. are you an accountant? are you a corporate analyst/accountant?

    If you answered yes --> I will trust your post and believe you and say "wow i never realized it."

    However the fact that you summarize intel's devise in 10 sentences is not enough information to convince me. Corporate structuring is wayyy to complex to be so shortly summarized. I would need to see something that is like 10 pages to believe what you said!
  36. Meh

    Thanks for reminding me why I haven't been to these forum"z" for weeks

    This idiot should just fk off and die already. Some ppl might actually believe the crap he is spewing forth, in the same manner that some thought that Waco dude was Jesus. If Intel was gonna go bust, I think some pretty highly-paid analysts on Wall St would have figured that out already and their stock price would be zero.

    Actionman, I'd just quit your quest to try and bang some sense into these morons. Just spend your time more wisely elsewhere. I don't think I've ever learnt anything by reading posts here (Jack aside - seems like the only non-14 year old round here).
  37. I hope Intel does file for Chapter 11. Intel is a stupid company that only thinks of profit by building factories in foreign countries that use cheap labor, unlike AMD that is building another fab in Upstate NY. Intel only thinks about themselves not about the country they started in, their birth country, USA. They don't think about the American people they only think about their wallets and bank accounts. Besides Intel chips will never be as efficient as AMD, unless Intel starts stealing AMD's ideas. When leaving a computer on for weeks a pc with an AMD chip I never had to restart my pc, but with Intel it would have to restart it like 7 times, and Intel's power consumption is terrible (imagine how much power Intel's quad-core will use). Intel's sole purpose is nothing it's a useless piece of silicon. AMD is the best in every task especially gaming. Intel will never get their money back because they already failed. Look at it this way how many Intel commercials have you seen(1,000,000), and how many AMD commercials have you seen(0). AMD doesn't need publicity it speaks for itself performance-wise.

    W00T!!!!!! All hail AMD!!!!!! AMD rules!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    So with your oversized d***head youre gonna fall pretty hard, right? (If I may drop to your level)

    Do you think you sound smart?


    Oh Yea! i'm the smartest thing this side of the Screen. So Yeah i'm the smartest one in my room. (Dumba$$*)lolls :lol: :lol: For both you and Shakira. (shakira*)Ohh baby those never lie :P :P :P
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    I hope Intel does file for Chapter 11. Intel is a stupid company that only thinks of profit by building factories in foreign countries that use cheap labor, unlike AMD that is building another fab in Upstate NY. Intel only thinks about themselves not about the country they started in, their birth country, USA. They don't think about the American people they only think about their wallets and bank accounts. Besides Intel chips will never be as efficient as AMD, unless Intel starts stealing AMD's ideas. When leaving a computer on for weeks a pc with an AMD chip I never had to restart my pc, but with Intel it would have to restart it like 7 times, and Intel's power consumption is terrible (imagine how much power Intel's quad-core will use). Intel's sole purpose is nothing it's a useless piece of silicon. AMD is the best in every task especially gaming. Intel will never get their money back because they already failed. Look at it this way how many Intel commercials have you seen(1,000,000), and how many AMD commercials have you seen(0). AMD doesn't need publicity it speaks for itself performance-wise.

    W00T!!!!!! All hail AMD!!!!!! AMD rules!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    You're a dreamer. The only reason AMD is thinking of building in NY is because of the 1billion in incentives from the government. Not to keep jobs in America. :roll:
  40. Quote:
    I hope Intel does file for Chapter 11. Intel is a stupid company that only thinks of profit by building factories in foreign countries that use cheap labor, unlike AMD that is building another fab in Upstate NY. Intel only thinks about themselves not about the country they started in, their birth country, USA. They don't think about the American people they only think about their wallets and bank accounts. Besides Intel chips will never be as efficient as AMD, unless Intel starts stealing AMD's ideas. When leaving a computer on for weeks a pc with an AMD chip I never had to restart my pc, but with Intel it would have to restart it like 7 times, and Intel's power consumption is terrible (imagine how much power Intel's quad-core will use). Intel's sole purpose is nothing it's a useless piece of silicon. AMD is the best in every task especially gaming. Intel will never get their money back because they already failed. Look at it this way how many Intel commercials have you seen(1,000,000), and how many AMD commercials have you seen(0). AMD doesn't need publicity it speaks for itself performance-wise.

    W00T!!!!!! All hail AMD!!!!!! AMD rules!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



    Congratulations on just proving yourself an uninformed idiot!
    I might suggest you do a bit of research on intels new architecture and fab locations before you post this nonsense again elsewhere.

    Edit: I also recommend that you stay away from sharikou's blog. I would hate to see your already fragile mind further damaged by his gross misinformation.
  41. You think Benny? That dumbass just posted his sh!t and never came back, why? Because he doesn't have no fuking facts in his fuking brain. And if they haven't notice, AMD's stock dropped $15 dollars during the week of June 12th (If I can recall the exact time) and yet Intel's stay steady.
  42. You really need to stop this ignorant Extemist crap, sorry they didn't get you with those guys in Florida last week. You'll be next I hope.
  43. Actually it's all bullshit, neither company is going anywhere no matter what the stock is or isn't, it's about time everyone got that through their thick heads.
  44. Get your head out of AMD's butt and see the light. You're a joke!
  45. The way you try to build up AMD with FUD and such manufactured emotions... I am beginning to think you secretly admire and actually own Intel PC's... and know they are the bomb...
    So this is your reverse psychology plow to actually support Intel?!?
    WooT! NetBurst 4-EvAr!!! [/iDiOtZ]
  46. Quote:
    I hope Intel does file for Chapter 11. Intel is a stupid company that only thinks of profit by building factories in foreign countries that use cheap labor, unlike AMD that is building another fab in Upstate NY. Intel only thinks about themselves not about the country they started in, their birth country, USA. They don't think about the American people they only think about their wallets and bank accounts. Besides Intel chips will never be as efficient as AMD, unless Intel starts stealing AMD's ideas. When leaving a computer on for weeks a pc with an AMD chip I never had to restart my pc, but with Intel it would have to restart it like 7 times, and Intel's power consumption is terrible (imagine how much power Intel's quad-core will use). Intel's sole purpose is nothing it's a useless piece of silicon. AMD is the best in every task especially gaming. Intel will never get their money back because they already failed. Look at it this way how many Intel commercials have you seen(1,000,000), and how many AMD commercials have you seen(0). AMD doesn't need publicity it speaks for itself performance-wise.

    W00T!!!!!! All hail AMD!!!!!! AMD rules!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


    Busygamer, you've Gamed yourself out of any braincells. Your A Dumba$$ AAMD intel dont give a shytt about Keeping job in the country. It's GlobilizaTION kid. What ever they can produce cheaper and sell with more profit they'll do it. If Microsoft could save 30cents in packaging costs by moving to Nigeria they'll do it. Because the mass production will cover the setup costs in 2-3 months
  47. Shakira drops a post and then disappears. Shakira, at least respond to the criticisms? We already know you have a fake PhD.
  48. Action_Man has contributed much more to this forum than you. You are just lame lady. GO push your FUD ELSEWHERE.

    No wait i like watching you get owned.
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    Action_Man has contributed much more to this forum than you. You are just lame lady. GO push your FUD ELSEWHERE.

    No wait i like watching you get owned.

    Well If you should know, sharikou is like the Al-Taliban of CPUs. The Extremest guy who does'nt represent the AMD boys. but does his own thing on the name of God..... Ahem!!(AMD)
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