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[Robert]

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dear all, i need to call very often europe (west), USA and China: what
VoIP company do you think should fit better for me?
I'm looking for a flat rate, so at the end of month, i already know how
much i'll be going to pay for
thanks
robert

 

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>dear all, i need to call very often europe (west), USA and China: what
>VoIP company do you think should fit better for me?
>I'm looking for a flat rate, so at the end of month, i already know how
>much i'll be going to pay for

The Broadvoice $19.95 plan includes all the big countries in western
Europe as well as China and Taiwan. The $24.95 plan adds the rest of
western Europe and some other countries. See www.broadvoice.com.

Nobody's flat rate plan includes calls to mobile phones outside North
America, since the carrier has to pay a surcharge that they pass along
to you.

 

[Guest]

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"robert" <none@none.none> wrote in message
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> dear all, i need to call very often europe (west), USA and China: what
> VoIP company do you think should fit better for me?
> I'm looking for a flat rate, so at the end of month, i already know how
> much i'll be going to pay for
> thanks
> robert

If you're calling the UK or Germany often you might benefit from a UK or
German number from www.sipgate.co.uk

Note if you want a normal geographic UK number you must register from a UK
IP address.

Ivor

 

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> The Broadvoice $19.95 plan includes all the big countries in western
> Europe as well as China and Taiwan. The $24.95 plan adds the rest of
> western Europe and some other countries. See www.broadvoice.com.

Are these plans really a good deal for most folks when compared to the
ala carte plans at 1 to 2 cents/minute? I guess I can't picture a
situation where I'd be spending over 1,000 minutes on the phone per
month when averaged over the whole year.

-wolfgang

 

[Guest]

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Where do you make the most calls to, is it primarily within the US, or
outside. I see you call W. Europe and China a lot, but my question is
whether those areas comprise the majority of your calls?

 

[Robert]

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This means that i can call west EU, Usa and China with a flat rate?
Also the mobile phone in usa?
DO i ned anything (apart my broadband connection) to subscribe to this
service?
thanks a lot
robert

John R. Levine wrote:
> >dear all, i need to call very often europe (west), USA and China:
what
> >VoIP company do you think should fit better for me?
> >I'm looking for a flat rate, so at the end of month, i already know
how
> >much i'll be going to pay for
>
> The Broadvoice $19.95 plan includes all the big countries in western
> Europe as well as China and Taiwan. The $24.95 plan adds the rest of
> western Europe and some other countries. See www.broadvoice.com.
>
> Nobody's flat rate plan includes calls to mobile phones outside North
> America, since the carrier has to pay a surcharge that they pass
along
> to you.

 

[Guest]

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>This means that i can call west EU, Usa and China with a flat rate?

Why don't you visit www.broadvoice.com and find out?

>Also the mobile phone in usa?

Calls to North American mobiles are no different from calls to North
American landlines. We don't use the caller overpays scheme that most
of the rest of the world does.

>DO i ned anything (apart my broadband connection) to subscribe to this
>service?

Why don't you visit www.broadvoice.com and find out?

>> The Broadvoice $19.95 plan includes all the big countries in western
>> Europe as well as China and Taiwan. The $24.95 plan adds the rest of
>> western Europe and some other countries. See www.broadvoice.com.
>>
>> Nobody's flat rate plan includes calls to mobile phones outside North
>> America, since the carrier has to pay a surcharge that they pass
>> along to you.



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[Guest]

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In message of Tue, 10 May 2005, John R. Levine writes
>>This means that i can call west EU, Usa and China with a flat rate?
>
>Why don't you visit www.broadvoice.com and find out?
>
>>Also the mobile phone in usa?
>
>Calls to North American mobiles are no different from calls to North
>American landlines. We don't use the caller overpays scheme that most
>of the rest of the world does.
>

And we don't have to pay for receiving unwanted calls on our mobiles.

I know which I would prefer.

DF

 

[Guest]

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>>Calls to North American mobiles are no different from calls to North
>>American landlines. We don't use the caller overpays scheme that most
>>of the rest of the world does.
>
>And we don't have to pay for receiving unwanted calls on our mobiles.
>
>I know which I would prefer.

Having mobile numbers in both the US and Switzerland, and observing
that my US mobile rate package has a monthly bundle with more minutes
than I ever use, I can report from experience the US charging scheme
wins big. (Technically, we have our problems with at least three
incompatible systems, but that's a separate issue from the rates.) We
also have the option to port numbers back and forth between landline
and mobile, which will never happen in caller-pays land.

The problem with caller pays is that there's no competitive price
pressure on incoming rates, so they all stay way overpriced. My US
monthly bundle gives me 1250 minutes for $30, which would be under 3
cpm if I used them all. At that price, I don't care about the
occasional wrong number.

R's,
John

 

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"David Floyd" <david@floyd.org.uk> wrote in message
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> In message of Tue, 10 May 2005, John R. Levine writes
>>>This means that i can call west EU, Usa and China with a flat rate?
>>
>>Why don't you visit www.broadvoice.com and find out?
>>
>>>Also the mobile phone in usa?
>>
>>Calls to North American mobiles are no different from calls to North
>>American landlines. We don't use the caller overpays scheme that most
>>of the rest of the world does.
>>
>
> And we don't have to pay for receiving unwanted calls on our mobiles.
>
> I know which I would prefer.

Given that most US mobile plans have more minutes included than you can
ever use, the use of a few of them for the odd unwanted call is minimal
and more than offset by the advantage to the caller of not paying through
the nose.

I wish the US option was available here.

Ivor