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We read about you guys all of the type with permanent clogged print
heads from the cheap of the cheap inks.

Anorak wrote:

>UK readers
>
>Ink is ink I thought but how could these damage my Epsom R300m ? ie complete
>sets of 6 for 99p plus posage and seperate carts for 2p ?????
>
>
>
>

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On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 12:35:11 +0100, "Anorak" <00000@00000.000> wrote:

>UK readers
>
>Ink is ink I thought but how could these damage my Epsom R300m ? ie complete
>sets of 6 for 99p plus posage and seperate carts for 2p ?????
>

If it seems too good to be true ...

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Burt...I don't know about Image Specialist ink...but I can tell you MIS
is a small company in rural Michigan.
When I had problems with one of their products...they said it was my
printer (which it wasn't).
Guarantee...not in my experience!

b_d

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I had problems with MIS refills in my Epson Stylus 900 - color match
problems - but their Canon ink for my i960 is so close in color tone to OEM
ink that I would have difficulty picking out side-by-side prints from the
same photo. MIS was very cooperative in trying to help with the Epson
problem and subsequently comped me their Canon products to compensate me for
the problems with the Epson. I would stresss that no harm came to my Epson
printer and the downside was some frustration and wasted paper (from Costco,
so not much cost). To answer Measekite's response - I am not a regular
heavy user of these inks. My work goes in spurts. With OEM carts refilled
up to 8 times I finally had one that didn't feed well after sitting for a
week unused. I replaced all of the refilled OEM carts (8 months of use with
many refills) with MIS virgin carts I filled with their inks, and everything
ran just fine. After the printer sat idle for more than a week I did a
dozen 4x6's and 2 8x10 prints. No problems. MIS resells inks under their
own label. Neil Slade said, at one time, that they were Image Specialist
inks. I haven't tried to verify that info, but I've found the product to be
excellent.

<braine_dead@lycos.com> wrote in message
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> Burt...I don't know about Image Specialist ink...but I can tell you MIS
> is a small company in rural Michigan.
> When I had problems with one of their products...they said it was my
> printer (which it wasn't).
> Guarantee...not in my experience!
>
> b_d
>

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braine_dead@lycos.com wrote:

>Burt...I don't know about Image Specialist ink...but I can tell you MIS
>is a small company in rural Michigan.
>When I had problems with one of their products...they said it was my
>printer (which it wasn't).
>Guarantee...not in my experience!
>
>b_d
>
>

This is a representation of what happens when you deal with small
norname Vendors who have no presence other than a $2500 website.
Companies like Staples and Office Depot have large investments and a
physical presence to maintain and an image to protect. Even the major
camera websites have a physical presence. Not that all is good, mind you.

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"Burt" <sfbjgNOSPAM@pacbell.net> wrote in message
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> That may or may not be true for Epson printers, but I am in touch with
lots
> of people who are using aftermarket inks with Canon printers and have had
> excellent results and no more problems with their printers than one would
> have with OEM inks. I had severe clogging problems with my Epson Stylus
900
> WITH Epson inks. Fortunately I got in touch with Art Entlich who has
> written up instructions on clearing clogs in Epson printers.

Is there a link to this article? as I am having a lot of clogging
problems with an Epson Stylus, thanks any info.

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"measekite" <measekite@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> braine_dead@lycos.com wrote:
>
>>Burt...I don't know about Image Specialist ink...but I can tell you MIS
>>is a small company in rural Michigan.
>>When I had problems with one of their products...they said it was my
>>printer (which it wasn't).
>>Guarantee...not in my experience!
>>
>>b_d
>>
>
> This is a representation of what happens when you deal with small norname
> Vendors who have no presence other than a $2500 website. Companies like
> Staples and Office Depot have large investments and a physical presence to
> maintain and an image to protect. Even the major camera websites have a
> physical presence. Not that all is good, mind you.

Unfortunately, I have read that some of the non OEM ink carts and generic
refills the big box office supply companies sell are poor quality. So much
for investment and image. I'll stay with my small vendors whose products
(admittedly relabled from other mfgrs) have proved to be excellent in my
hands.

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search for Arthur Entlich posts and email him - request his instructions on
cleaning Epson print heads. He will be glad to email it back and further
assist you if you need more help. He is in the process of changing his
email address. I would search back through this NG and pull up his latest
post for the old address and try it. If it doesn't reach him he will
probably post his new address when he gets it set up.

"whiteMemphis" <loom@alphalink.com.au> wrote in message
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>
> "Burt" <sfbjgNOSPAM@pacbell.net> wrote in message
> news:t2m7e.1968$t85.472@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com...
>> That may or may not be true for Epson printers, but I am in touch with
> lots
>> of people who are using aftermarket inks with Canon printers and have had
>> excellent results and no more problems with their printers than one would
>> have with OEM inks. I had severe clogging problems with my Epson Stylus
> 900
>> WITH Epson inks. Fortunately I got in touch with Art Entlich who has
>> written up instructions on clearing clogs in Epson printers.
>
> Is there a link to this article? as I am having a lot of clogging
> problems with an Epson Stylus, thanks any info.
>
>

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> The real problem is the after market industry itself in that there are no
> real manufacturers selling carts or bottles under their own brand name

This is not true. Inktec & Jettec being examples.

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mpx wrote:

>>The real problem is the after market industry itself in that there are no
>>real manufacturers selling carts or bottles under their own brand name
>>
>>
>
>This is not true. Inktec & Jettec being examples.
>
>

They are hawkers. The are not manufacturer/formulators that sell their
own branded product to a multitude of resellers, both web and brick and
motors. Wake up and smell the roses.

>
>
>

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I wonder what the postal charges are like?

For that price it is probably bingo card dabbers ink.

What can go wrong?

Could be the wrong colors, or wrong density, making your driver no
longer produce images the correct colors.

Could dry too quickly, slowly, causing smearing or other problems,
including head clogs.

Could have contaminants in it, causing head clogs or filter clogs.

Could have incorrect formulation that might bleed, or band on papers you
usually use.

Could use colorants that were not stable, causing rapid fading or color
change on display.

Could have no chips on the cartridges, or the wrong chips, causing them
not to be recognized by the printer

Could have bad seals around the ink outlet, causing the ink to leak out
or for air to end up in the cartridge

For those prices, could be empty old cartridges ;-)

Who knows, maybe they are being sold below cost to get you introduced to
them, and they are just fine... try to get a written warranty from the
company such that if the ink damages your printer, they will cover repair.

Art


Anorak wrote:

> UK readers
>
> Ink is ink I thought but how could these damage my Epsom R300m ? ie complete
> sets of 6 for 99p plus posage and seperate carts for 2p ?????
>
>

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No link, just email me privately at the address used in the header of
this message, and request the Epson Cleaning Manual.

It is free.

Art

whiteMemphis wrote:

> "Burt" <sfbjgNOSPAM@pacbell.net> wrote in message
> news:t2m7e.1968$t85.472@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com...
>
>>That may or may not be true for Epson printers, but I am in touch with
>
> lots
>
>>of people who are using aftermarket inks with Canon printers and have had
>>excellent results and no more problems with their printers than one would
>>have with OEM inks. I had severe clogging problems with my Epson Stylus
>
> 900
>
>>WITH Epson inks. Fortunately I got in touch with Art Entlich who has
>>written up instructions on clearing clogs in Epson printers.
>
>
> Is there a link to this article? as I am having a lot of clogging
> problems with an Epson Stylus, thanks any info.
>
>