Big Typhoon Installation
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natedagw821
June 27, 2006 10:20:31 PM
Hey guys,
I'm getting a big typhoon with arctic silver 5 in the next few weeks. This will be my first time installing a heatsink/fan on my cpu. I'm looking at the big typhoon install directions and I have a few questions. Do I look at the K8 instructions?(I have a amd 3800+ x2 socket 939). Also do I have to install a backplate? The instructions really aren't that clear.
Lastly, do I have to remove the motherboard bracket? The plastic square bracket around the cpu socket?
My motherboard is a asus A8N SLI Premium.
The instructions say this: "If installing on a K8 motherboard, go directly to the K8 instructions."
The K8 instructions say nothing about a back plate.
Any feedback u provide will be greatly appreciated!
Thanks again.
I'm getting a big typhoon with arctic silver 5 in the next few weeks. This will be my first time installing a heatsink/fan on my cpu. I'm looking at the big typhoon install directions and I have a few questions. Do I look at the K8 instructions?(I have a amd 3800+ x2 socket 939). Also do I have to install a backplate? The instructions really aren't that clear.
Lastly, do I have to remove the motherboard bracket? The plastic square bracket around the cpu socket?
My motherboard is a asus A8N SLI Premium.
The instructions say this: "If installing on a K8 motherboard, go directly to the K8 instructions."
The K8 instructions say nothing about a back plate.
Any feedback u provide will be greatly appreciated!
Thanks again.
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Grimmy
June 27, 2006 10:29:32 PM
I don't have K8 or use the Typhoon, but I did find this:
Marns CDA
The link does show how it is installed on a ABit board, but might be similar to Asus.
Hope that helps some.
Marns CDA
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This cooler can fit on many different chipsets. We will be looking at the K8 installation. Out of the box and according to the documentation this should be quite easy. But unfortunately it wasn't quite as easy as the instructions lead you to believe. All that is supposed to be required is removing the top mount from the stock unit and screwing the new cooler into place with a pressure type bar. After attempting several times to get the hardware to line up it was very apparent that the screws provided where a bit short. Luckily we had a mount that was a bit longer but this meant removing the motherboard and placing the aftermarket mount on the rear of the board. Now I originally thought it might have been the hardware provided for the stock unit so I tried the hardware for 3 other motherboards with the same results. A suggestion I would like to make to improve this unit would be to recheck the screws provided and simple use screws around 6 to 8mm longer. This would eliminate any problems with any existing hardware.. Other then this the installation was pretty easy. With the AN8 board I did need to move the RAM to the outer slots but on at least 2 other boards this would not be required so it's strictly a note to the folks that use 4 RAM sticks and using an ABIT AN8 board to keep this in mind and make sure you have room for this huge cooler.The link does show how it is installed on a ABit board, but might be similar to Asus.
Hope that helps some.
3lfk1ng
June 27, 2006 11:30:15 PM
Natedagw821, or Natedawg821 as u probly intended,
Your in luck, I just recently installed my Big Typhoon after my water cooling system started 4 different leaks after a hot summer day(Thermaltake bigwater SE, and actually the liquid broke through the heat softened cables, luckily no damage was caused). Lemme go get my instructions...ok, im back. On the front page, youll see the words "Big Typhoon" step > > 1 "Install the back plate" is required for ALL SOCKET TYPES then after you have done that (ugh, removing the mobo sux, i know) flip over to the other side and follow the "K8 Installation" instructions. And NO you don't have to remove the plastic bracket around the cpu (thats permanent)
ON THE FRONT:
You'll notice that it says
> > 1. Install the back plate then below that it says
> > 2. Install the heatsink (its general for all socket types)...
It confused me at first too, just realize there are only 2 steps. The backplate then the heatsink.
Arctic Silver 5, good choice....I'm using Arctic silver 5 as well.
Here is a tip....place half a rice-grain size blob on the dye...then smooth a layer over the base of the heatsink that will touch the cpu (make sure ur hands are really clean, and use ur pointer finger....not a towel of any sort)
Also....on my motherboard the capacitors where very close to the cpu and the heatsink actually hits them. If this is the case with your motherboard just know that those can bend a slight amount, but if you bend them too much they will break off, and then your mobo is toast....so be carefull with the cpu's nearby capacitors (typically to the south of the socket)
Your in luck, I just recently installed my Big Typhoon after my water cooling system started 4 different leaks after a hot summer day(Thermaltake bigwater SE, and actually the liquid broke through the heat softened cables, luckily no damage was caused). Lemme go get my instructions...ok, im back. On the front page, youll see the words "Big Typhoon" step > > 1 "Install the back plate" is required for ALL SOCKET TYPES then after you have done that (ugh, removing the mobo sux, i know) flip over to the other side and follow the "K8 Installation" instructions. And NO you don't have to remove the plastic bracket around the cpu (thats permanent)
ON THE FRONT:
You'll notice that it says
> > 1. Install the back plate then below that it says
> > 2. Install the heatsink (its general for all socket types)...
It confused me at first too, just realize there are only 2 steps. The backplate then the heatsink.
Arctic Silver 5, good choice....I'm using Arctic silver 5 as well.
Here is a tip....place half a rice-grain size blob on the dye...then smooth a layer over the base of the heatsink that will touch the cpu (make sure ur hands are really clean, and use ur pointer finger....not a towel of any sort)
Also....on my motherboard the capacitors where very close to the cpu and the heatsink actually hits them. If this is the case with your motherboard just know that those can bend a slight amount, but if you bend them too much they will break off, and then your mobo is toast....so be carefull with the cpu's nearby capacitors (typically to the south of the socket)
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Grimmy
June 28, 2006 12:12:35 AM
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Arctic Silver 5, good choice....I'm using Arctic silver 5 as well.Here is a tip....place half a rice-grain size blob on the dye...then smooth a layer over the base of the heatsink that will touch the cpu (make sure ur hands are really clean, and use ur pointer finger....not a towel of any sort)
Just to be on the safe side:
AS5 Instructions
You should not use your bare finger.
chuckshissle
June 28, 2006 12:26:24 AM
One advice for the backplate adhesive cushion. Do not peel the adhesive cushion/cork and stick to the motherboard. Instead place the adhesive cushion as it is, for when it's time to remove the HSF or upgrade your mobo you can still reuse the adhesive cushion.
If you peel and adhere the adhesive cushion then it would stick to the motherboard permanently and you'll have a hard time removing it and probably will not be good for another installation.
I got this helpful hint before I installed my Tt Big Typhoon on my mobo. Then the time comes with my water cooling system and the adhesive backplate cushion which I didn't peel and stick comes right off and I was able to sell to my buddy.
If you peel and adhere the adhesive cushion then it would stick to the motherboard permanently and you'll have a hard time removing it and probably will not be good for another installation.
I got this helpful hint before I installed my Tt Big Typhoon on my mobo. Then the time comes with my water cooling system and the adhesive backplate cushion which I didn't peel and stick comes right off and I was able to sell to my buddy.
3lfk1ng
June 28, 2006 12:33:52 AM
Only problem with a ziplock bag, is that some peoples cupboards are dusty and dirty and have open ziplock boxes....if a finger is freshly cleaned....it works fine. I've built over 12 computers, and I've used arctic silver on 8 of them, and the finger does the trick. (just make sure u wash ur hands afterwards)
Alpha_Magnum
June 28, 2006 12:42:02 AM
I run a Big Typhoon and have no real complaints!
As per your post you simply remove the plastic retention bracket from your board and use the existing bakplate on the board!
Here are the problems that you may have.
A) Your case needs width if you don't have room forget this cooler.
B) You will need an offset screwdriver to tighten the mount. I have one so I was OK otherwise you need a flexable shaft screwdriver.
As per your post you simply remove the plastic retention bracket from your board and use the existing bakplate on the board!
Here are the problems that you may have.
A) Your case needs width if you don't have room forget this cooler.
B) You will need an offset screwdriver to tighten the mount. I have one so I was OK otherwise you need a flexable shaft screwdriver.
Grimmy
June 28, 2006 12:58:05 AM
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Only problem with a ziplock bag, is that some peoples cupboards are dusty and dirty and have open ziplock boxes....if a finger is freshly cleaned....it works fine. I've built over 12 computers, and I've used arctic silver on 8 of them, and the finger does the trick. (just make sure u wash ur hands afterwards)Just being on the safe side. I brought AS5 but couldn't find the instructions, except on the website.
I'm not questioning your 12 builds. I've built plenty myself.
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I run a Big Typhoon and have no real complaints! As per your post you simply remove the plastic retention bracket from your board and use the existing bakplate on the board!
Here are the problems that you may have.
A) Your case needs width if you don't have room forget this cooler.
B) You will need an offset screwdriver to tighten the mount. I have one so I was OK otherwise you need a flexable shaft screwdriver.
Just a guess, but could you perhaps get more clearance of the 2 screws at the base if you took the fan off?
Not sure if that would help with a longer reg straight screw driver.
Seems like the handle of a screw driver that is long enough wouldn't bump into the top fan bracket if it was removed.
Just thought I'd throw that advice in.
icbluscrn
June 28, 2006 1:31:06 AM
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One advice for the backplate adhesive cushion. Do not peel the adhesive cushion/cork and stick to the motherboard. Instead place the adhesive cushion as it is, for when it's time to remove the HSF or upgrade your mobo you can still reuse the adhesive cushion. If you peel and adhere the adhesive cushion then it would stick to the motherboard permanently and you'll have a hard time removing it and probably will not be good for another installation.
I got this helpful hint before I installed my Tt Big Typhoon on my mobo. Then the time comes with my water cooling system and the adhesive backplate cushion which I didn't peel and stick comes right off and I was able to sell to my buddy.
excellent point! wish i thought of that because it is a pain to clean that glue from the mobo then could not re-use the pad had to improvise a cushion for the backplate on my other mobo's
Alpha_Magnum
June 28, 2006 1:39:56 AM
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Just a guess, but could you perhaps get more clearance of the 2 base screws at the base if you took the fan off? Not sure if that would help with a longer reg straight screw driver.
I have no probs with Typhoon.
When you set it up you will see some of the issues. You have to be able to get the 2 screws evenly tight. Removing the fan is no help and a driver that is too long will simply bend the copper fins. I found it necessary to build my board in the case and I'm happy I had an offset screwdriver.
There is also a flexable shat driver that would work too.
I got the mount finger tight then made alternating 1/2 turns till I felt that the rotation was difficult. I don't really care about what you use but the Zalman has a better mounting system but they don't have a Big Typhoon!
Grimmy
June 28, 2006 2:58:47 AM
Errr.. I don't have an ego to boast. What I use, is what I use.
I was offering an idea to help, as far as taking the fan off the top 1st before installing it.
I don't plan on buying the Typhoon, since my Zalman 7700 works just fine.
However I was thinking about chaning the fan out latey to replace the 120mm fan that has around 30 CFM for 110 CFM one. The other nice thing about it, is that it would force more air to my MB to help cool the capacitors, coils, northbridge HS, and memory.
I was offering an idea to help, as far as taking the fan off the top 1st before installing it.
I don't plan on buying the Typhoon, since my Zalman 7700 works just fine.
However I was thinking about chaning the fan out latey to replace the 120mm fan that has around 30 CFM for 110 CFM one. The other nice thing about it, is that it would force more air to my MB to help cool the capacitors, coils, northbridge HS, and memory.
Alpha_Magnum
June 28, 2006 3:19:09 AM
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Errr.. I don't have an ego to boast. What I use, is what I use.I was offering an idea to help, as far as taking the fan off the top 1st before installing it.
I don't plan on buying the Typhoon, since my Zalman 7700 works just fine.
However I was thinking about chaning the fan out latey to replace the 120mm fan that has around 30 CFM for 110 CFM one. The other nice thing about it, is that it would force more air to my MB to help cool the capacitors, coils, northbridge HS, and memory.
I have no idea what your ego has to do w/ the B Typhoon? Regardless, moving the fan to the moon will not help tightening the 2 screws. I didn't start the thread and was sure to point out that Yes I have one and it works but you will have issues getting it to work in most systems as the mounting screws are difficult to get at. The worst is the screw near the PSU. Its too bad this forum does not have the attachment mod we could upload images of our parts etc.
Grimmy
June 28, 2006 3:33:44 AM
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I got the mount finger tight then made alternating 1/2 turns till I felt that the rotation was difficult. I don't really care about what you use but the Zalman has a better mounting system but they don't have a Big Typhoon!As far as ego goes... your tone is what got my attention.
I never said anything about the typhoon, installation or performance wise comparing it to what I use.
Sorry if I was sounding confusing to you.
Alpha_Magnum
June 28, 2006 3:48:13 AM
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I got the mount finger tight then made alternating 1/2 turns till I felt that the rotation was difficult. I don't really care about what you use but the Zalman has a better mounting system but they don't have a Big Typhoon!As far as ego goes... your tone is what got my attention.
I never said anything about the typhoon, installation or performance wise comparing it to what I use.
Sorry if I was sounding confusing to you.
Errrrrrrrrr Ummmmmmmmm wuuuttt?
This is typing there is no tone involved. I have both a B Typhoon (in my box) and a Zalman (in my wife's box). Her cooler does a great job and was a faster setup then the B Typhoon. She and I looked at them both after the machines were running and we both agree that the Big Typhoon is "Big" and "Cool Looking"
So Grimmy are you upset cause you thought I was talking about you or because I was not talking about you or your cooler at all?
PAX
Grimmy
June 28, 2006 4:19:24 AM
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I got the mount finger tight then made alternating 1/2 turns till I felt that the rotation was difficult. I don't really care about what you use but the Zalman has a better mounting system but they don't have a Big Typhoon!As far as ego goes... your tone is what got my attention.
I never said anything about the typhoon, installation or performance wise comparing it to what I use.
Sorry if I was sounding confusing to you.
Errrrrrrrrr Ummmmmmmmm wuuuttt?
This is typing there is no tone involved. I have both a B Typhoon (in my box) and a Zalman (in my wife's box). Her cooler does a great job and was a faster setup then the B Typhoon. She and I looked at them both after the machines were running and we both agree that the Big Typhoon is "Big" and "Cool Looking"
So Grimmy are you upset cause you thought I was talking about you or because I was not talking about you or your cooler at all?
PAX
:? . o O (Do we really need to discuss this?)
Your reply is to me, isn't it? My signature does say 7700 Zalman, and what you said to me in regards:
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I don't really care about what you use but the Zalman has a better mounting system but they don't have a Big Typhoon!Perhaps you didn't see my signature? Cause I was under the impression you were bashing Zalman at 1st.
It just sounds that it has more tone towards me. I guess I mis-interpet it. I guess your saying you wish the Typhoon was made by Zalman, or had better mounts like Zalman?
Anyhoo, I don't have any beef with anyone. Misunderstandings happen on forums.
Alpha_Magnum
June 28, 2006 4:47:40 AM
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I guess your saying you wish the Typhoon was made by Zalman, or had better mounts like Zalman? I was in fact implying that if the BT had a better mounting system there would be no complaint about BT from me. Zalman's mount system is better! BT got me a little cooler though. Regardless the BT is Big & Looks real COOL!
No I didn't look at your SIG since SIGs are silly.
A_M's SIG of the DAY
Grimmy
June 28, 2006 5:50:29 AM
So if signatures are silly, then I guess that makes me silly, and anyone else who uses it.
I just find it convenient having to let anyone know what I use. Not that I'm proud of it, but pretty much happy with what I got, and don't have to explain what I use if I have questions.
You seem very happy with your BT, and must look at it all the time, since your impressed by its looks.
Alpha_Magnum
June 28, 2006 6:28:51 AM
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So if signatures are silly, then I guess that makes me silly, and anyone else who uses it. If you were silly I would say, "Hey man your silly!" I simply stated that I think SIGs are silly.
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I just find it convenient having to let anyone know what I use. Not that I'm proud of it, but pretty much happy with what I got, and don't have to explain what I use if I have questions.Your the one mentioning ego, pride, etc. there is no need to justify what you do. Use 20 SIGs if that helps you.
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You seem very happy with your BT, and must look at it all the time, since your impressed by its looks.It seems to look pretty cool is all though I don't remember the last time I looked at it. What makes me happy is if someone that wants to use a BT has patients and a good set of screw drivers!
A_M's SIG of the Moment:
Grimmy
June 28, 2006 6:53:06 AM
:roll: . o O ( looks like a struck a nerve for you to have to quote every part of my last post)
Okay, I think we pretty much ruined this thread.
So I guess your the Saint and I'm the Sinner.
Like I said, I don't have a Beef with anyone, and misunderstandings happen.
But you seem to just want to take shots at my ego or pride or what ever you think would perhaps make me feel small.
As far as that pic:
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I hope you are surrounded by dumb people. That way you feel right at home.
BTW if the long screw driver would mess up the copper fins, don't you think it should have copper fins to begin with? It is in a aluminum bracket with aluminum fins. I suppose you haven't been looking at it for quite awhile.
Okay, I think we pretty much ruined this thread.
So I guess your the Saint and I'm the Sinner.
Like I said, I don't have a Beef with anyone, and misunderstandings happen.
But you seem to just want to take shots at my ego or pride or what ever you think would perhaps make me feel small.
As far as that pic:

I hope you are surrounded by dumb people. That way you feel right at home.
BTW if the long screw driver would mess up the copper fins, don't you think it should have copper fins to begin with? It is in a aluminum bracket with aluminum fins. I suppose you haven't been looking at it for quite awhile.
Alpha_Magnum
June 28, 2006 10:59:38 PM
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:roll: . o O ( looks like a struck a nerve for you to have to quote every part of my last post)Okay, I think we pretty much ruined this thread.
So I guess your the Saint and I'm the Sinner.
Like I said, I don't have a Beef with anyone, and misunderstandings happen.
But you seem to just want to take shots at my ego or pride or what ever you think would perhaps make me feel small.
As far as that pic:

I hope you are surrounded by dumb people. That way you feel right at home.
BTW if the long screw driver would mess up the copper fins, don't you think it should have copper fins to begin with? It is in a aluminum bracket with aluminum fins. I suppose you haven't been looking at it for quite awhile.
The Big Typhoon IS copper! It's not like copper since it is copper! Yes the fins ar aluminum. The fan has some copper parts too. You don't have a Big Typhoon so yet your going to post all about your knowledge of Big Typhoon. The point was that the screws are difficult to tighten! On to the A_M SIG of the Moment:
Here is the A_M SIG of the Moment for today!

You could have this one? It's a Big Typhoon with copper fins!
Grimmy
June 28, 2006 11:59:07 PM
Ahh... that is cool looking
Mini Typhoon
Although, it isn't a Big Typhoon (120mm fan), its a Mini Typhoon (92mm Fan).
Big Typhoon:
Application for Intel P4 LGA 775, and AMD K7, K8
6 Heatpipes, transfer the heat quickly
High density aluminum fins provide more surface area for good heat dissipation
Copper base solder, perfect contact to ensure the best performance
12 cm silent fan, perform well at low noise,
16dB only
And you said on the BT, for a recap:
So that is what I was refering to, and when I ment by you not looking at it lately, and I'm aware that its base/pipes are indeed copper. However I totally agree on the offset screwdriver, though not everyone has one. I wasn't implying on sticking the screwdriver through the fins though. Just wondering if using a longer screwdriver that the handle would have more clearance by not bumping into the fan base from the side, to keep the screwdriver straighter. But then not everyone will have a longer screwdriver.
So that Mini would be the AM2 version. I do stand corrected on that, if you have a Mini.
I only see 2 reviews on it from New Egg, so its seems to be a fairly new product.
Thanks for bringing that to my attention.
Mini Typhoon
Although, it isn't a Big Typhoon (120mm fan), its a Mini Typhoon (92mm Fan).
Big Typhoon:
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FeaturesApplication for Intel P4 LGA 775, and AMD K7, K8
6 Heatpipes, transfer the heat quickly
High density aluminum fins provide more surface area for good heat dissipation
Copper base solder, perfect contact to ensure the best performance
12 cm silent fan, perform well at low noise,
16dB only
And you said on the BT, for a recap:
Quote:
Removing the fan is no help and a driver that is too long will simply bend the copper fins. I found it necessary to build my board in the case and I'm happy I had an offset screwdriver.So that is what I was refering to, and when I ment by you not looking at it lately, and I'm aware that its base/pipes are indeed copper. However I totally agree on the offset screwdriver, though not everyone has one. I wasn't implying on sticking the screwdriver through the fins though. Just wondering if using a longer screwdriver that the handle would have more clearance by not bumping into the fan base from the side, to keep the screwdriver straighter. But then not everyone will have a longer screwdriver.
So that Mini would be the AM2 version. I do stand corrected on that, if you have a Mini.
I only see 2 reviews on it from New Egg, so its seems to be a fairly new product.
Thanks for bringing that to my attention.
Alpha_Magnum
June 29, 2006 9:47:36 PM
I don't see me getting an AM2 system for some reason though I do see a "some reason" system in the near future...chough chough.
Aparently the mini typhoon is a little smaller and has mounting brackets for all setups. It seems that the AM2 retention system stays in place and you lock the M Typhon down with a retention lever. No screws needed.
Offset screwdrivers can be had HERE FOR $1.50 Per SET
Aparently the mini typhoon is a little smaller and has mounting brackets for all setups. It seems that the AM2 retention system stays in place and you lock the M Typhon down with a retention lever. No screws needed.
Offset screwdrivers can be had HERE FOR $1.50 Per SET
Grimmy
June 29, 2006 10:39:17 PM
As far as getting or upgrading to AM2 platform, that was my point of view as far as getting the MT, since it had a mount design to work on it. I never saw the MT, though I did hear about it, but then I didn't know it was all totally copper.
That looks like good deal on offset screwdrivers. Too bad Thermaltake didn't have a special offset screwdriver with the BT package, like perhaps the size of an allen wrench, rather having a user just buy a set... chough, chough.
That looks like good deal on offset screwdrivers. Too bad Thermaltake didn't have a special offset screwdriver with the BT package, like perhaps the size of an allen wrench, rather having a user just buy a set... chough, chough.
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