AMD Athlon 64 X2 3600+

[sepuko]

What do you think about this cheap version of the X2? It is set to 2GHz but only 256k L2 per core. Would that deliver any good performance? It's like two Semprons in one package... Would it be a good overclocker?

 

[RichPLS]

AMD's do not benefit as much as other designs with larger cache... but that does not mean 0 benefit... just not as much...
meh, I do not see myself buying any AMD stuff with 256 or even 512k cache, seems like my Opty 175 with 2x1MB cache will be the last for me, until they either prove performance advantages of less cache, but IMO, they only proved to me that less cache is easier and cheaper to produce, and performance takes a hit as a result... but they are in a bad way with the powerhouse Conroys entering the market...

 

[DrBlofeld]

I agree, but additional cache certainly doesn't hurt. If the X2 3800 will drop to around $168 or so, then this chip better be alot cheaper if people would consider purchasing it. Then again, with the lower cache, it may be able to overclock alot more due to less heat. I have a 3200 939 chip. I was looking to upgrade to an opteron 165 or other 1MB cache dual core 939 chip once prices drop, but it looks like that day will never come

 

[FITCamaro]

There's almost no difference between a chip with 512KB cache and one with 1MB cache at the same speed. At least in AMDs case.

I think it'll be a great budget chip. And yeah it'll have to be cheap because the X2 3800+ is set to drop to like $168 so this will have be at least $20 less than that.

 

[Ycon]

That processor is cr*p, dont even think of it =)

 

[guyinyourattic37]

Please explain that statement. Oh great intel fanboy.

 

[jap0nes]

What do you think about this cheap version of the X2? It is set to 2GHz but only 256k L2 per core. Would that deliver any good performance? It's like two Semprons in one package... Would it be a good overclocker?

i think it will be a lot better than the now famous pentium D 805 at stock, dunno about overclock. As you pointed, it is a "dual core sempron", which are good overclockers.
I think i'll buy one

 

[MrsD]

That processor is cr*p, dont even think of it =)

It will be a great processor for the money and it will oc to at least 2.4 per core. So Ycon if its crap, then the intel dual cores are pure diahrea.
....as Intel yells help, core duo to the rescue....

 

[1Tanker]

So Ycon if its crap, then the intel dual cores are pure diahrea.
....as Intel yells help, core duo to the rescue....

as AMD yells help 4x4, we need you....we can't compete against Intel with 1 Processor. :roll:

 

[m25]

What do you think about this cheap version of the X2? It is set to 2GHz but only 256k L2 per core. Would that deliver any good performance? It's like two Semprons in one package... Would it be a good overclocker?

Sounds great, especially in what I use my PC for: renderig, cache is useles but WHAT SOCKET IS IT???

 

[jap0nes]

What do you think about this cheap version of the X2? It is set to 2GHz but only 256k L2 per core. Would that deliver any good performance? It's like two Semprons in one package... Would it be a good overclocker?

Sounds great, especially in what I use my PC for: renderig, cache is useles but WHAT SOCKET IS IT???
it seems it will be AM2

 

[Ycon]

You dont really think a defective Manchester core is going to have a 25% OC headroom?

 

[m25]

hoped I could upgrade my 939; don't believe the 3800+ x2 will drop to $160-170 this year an even if it does, the 3600+ is a cheaper & better option for me. However, if they port the 5000+ and FX 62 to 939 hope they will also take the 3600+, would be great: don't have enouh money to upgrade board & RAM!

 

[jap0nes]

You dont really think a defective Manchester core is going to have a 25% OC headroom?

the problem could be at the cache portion. Just deactivate that part, the result will be a smaller cache with the core working

 

[dvdpiddy]

What do you think about this cheap version of the X2? It is set to 2GHz but only 256k L2 per core. Would that deliver any good performance? It's like two Semprons in one package... Would it be a good overclocker?

Should'nt it be called the 3700?

 

[dvdpiddy]

That processor is cr*p, dont even think of it =)

Idiotic post.

 

[m25]

What do you think about this cheap version of the X2? It is set to 2GHz but only 256k L2 per core. Would that deliver any good performance? It's like two Semprons in one package... Would it be a good overclocker?

Should'nt it be called the 3700?

Maybe, but at the end, counts what it performa like and I think it will have a great price/performance, I only pray the CPU Gods it is aldo released for 939!

 

[dvdpiddy]

I heard that any dual core amd with less than 256k cache was gonna have a model number 100 points below the 512k cache model.

 

[joefriday]

Ycon, having a preference is one thing, but being a blind fanboy for Intel is another. Hell, even I have a preference for Intel, but I'm not a fanboy for either. This x2 3600 in all likelihood will be within 5-7% of the x2 3800 in terms of performance. As has been pointed out, L2 cache doesn't make a whole lot of difference on the K8 core, and 256kb per core is still enough to be very effective. 2.4 GHz should be common for overclocks. It will be a very formidable cpu for the price. The only thing is that it's not scheduled for release until the end of 2006, where by then it may be too late to matter.

As for the AM2/socket 939 question, I've heard rumor that there are already some OEM socket 939 x2 3600s floating around Asia. They may suffer the same fate as the socket 939 Semprons though: OEM only, and in small supply. AM2 is where the should be in supply, for sale Q4 of this year.

 

[m25]

Ycon, having a preference is one thing, but being a blind fanboy for Intel is another. Hell, even I have a preference for Intel, but I'm not a fanboy for either. This x2 3600 in all likelihood will be within 5-7% of the x2 3800 in terms of performance. As has been pointed out, L2 cache doesn't make a whole lot of difference on the K8 core, and 256kb per core is still enough to be very effective. 2.4 GHz should be common for overclocks. It will be a very formidable cpu for the price. The only thing is that it's not scheduled for release until the end of 2006, where by then it may be too late to matter.

As for the AM2/socket 939 question, I've heard rumor that there are already some OEM socket 939 x2 3600s floating around Asia. They may suffer the same fate as the socket 939 Semprons though: OEM only, and in small supply. AM2 is where the should be in supply, for sale Q4 of this year.

Asia... see you boys, I'm going to China tomorrow....

 

[m25]

:lol: However, would be nice if they don't end up like 939 semprons and if there are 939 3600s I believe they won't; The semprons were too near in performance to the Athlon64s (having the dual channes controller etc) but a 3600+ can be well accomodated in price between the 3800+ and 4000+ and in performance at the bottom of the dual cores. furthermore, it's just a processor, not a whole series.