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July 1, 2006 8:15:30 PM

hey guys I was wondering what was better to get 1 radoen x1900 xt or 2 7800 gt's

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July 1, 2006 8:24:10 PM

o god, the X1900XT would slaughter the 2 7800GT's
July 1, 2006 8:29:19 PM

oh sorry I mean 2 7900 gt's
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July 1, 2006 8:32:38 PM

In framerates, the two 7900GTs should be better. Why should? If you play at 1600x1200 resolution, then SLI shows a lot of improvement. If you play below that, then the X1900XT would be better.
July 1, 2006 8:40:57 PM

Erm, don't know how you came to that conclusion but no a single X1900XT is most likely not faster than 7800GTs in SLI let alone 7900GTs in SLI. I say most likely, because I can't prove it with results that I can find off the top of my head, and in some raw speed/memory tests the X1900XT might pip it.
July 1, 2006 9:25:38 PM

a single Radeon X1900XT or an XTX doesn't "slaughter" 2 7800 GT's by any means

taking about 10 seconds i found benchmarks on techreport.com that show 2 GT's are a few frames faster than the XTX and close to 10 frames faster than the XT during a FEAR benchmark

even so it'd probably be a better deal to get an XT or an XTX instead of another GT
July 1, 2006 9:28:56 PM

acually I won 2 on ebay for 230 bucks total
July 1, 2006 9:41:50 PM

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a single Radeon X1900XT or an XTX doesn't "slaughter" 2 7800 GT's by any means

taking about 10 seconds i found benchmarks on techreport.com that show 2 GT's are a few frames faster than the XTX and close to 10 frames faster than the XT during a FEAR benchmark

even so it'd probably be a better deal to get an XT or an XTX instead of another GT


http://www23.tomshardware.com/graphics.html?modelx=33&m...

compare them and be wrong, Thanks! also 1 X1900XT comes cheaper.

on the chart no XT is listed use the XTX clocked at 648Mhz. the 621mhz one doesnt show up on a few benchmarks for some reason..
July 1, 2006 9:56:49 PM

There's no need to be an obnoxious twat.

It's about half half, depending on the benchmarks you select and resolutions and settings, with the one you selected anyway showing 60fps+ in both setups, making it a bit of a moot point.

As it has it, he is actually using 2 7900GTs.

Personally, I'm more inclined to NVidia cards as the X1900XT puts out massive heat and has high power draw, compared to the 7900 series.

Clearly you think the X1900XT is the better card, that is fine. I'm not the one using them.
July 1, 2006 10:22:23 PM

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hey guys I was wondering what was better to get 1 radoen x1900 xt or 2 7800 gt's

I think that in just about any test (short of perhaps a forest benchmark in Oblivion) that you'll be better off with a pair of 7900GTs. However, a pair WILL draw more power, and put out more heat, than a single X1900XTX. They may also produce more noise, (two fans are louder than one) but I don't know.
a b U Graphics card
July 1, 2006 10:42:45 PM

Yeah, a single X1900XT would be better at Oblivion. I was looking to upgrade for Oblivion and considered a second 7800GT in SLI but decided to go with a single X1800xT instead as Firingsquad's review showed a single X1800XT> 7800GT SLi in Oblivion. I had use for the 7800GT though in a spare machine.

Otherwise I'd think more often than not SLI 7900GT would beat a single XTX; just depends on the game, settings, and system specs.
July 1, 2006 11:22:38 PM

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There's no need to be an obnoxious twat.

It's about half half, depending on the benchmarks you select and resolutions and settings, with the one you selected anyway showing 60fps+ in both setups, making it a bit of a moot point.

As it has it, he is actually using 2 7900GTs.

Personally, I'm more inclined to NVidia cards as the X1900XT puts out massive heat and has high power draw, compared to the 7900 series.

Clearly you think the X1900XT is the better card, that is fine. I'm not the one using them.


actually, ur wrong.

Yes my brother has an X1900XT but i would rather have a 7900GTX/GX2 im an Nvidia fanboy. Im just pointing out for the price to performance ratio an X1900XT is better.
July 1, 2006 11:25:20 PM

Guys, what are you talking about.
In Meximum PC Mag for Jun, Tested an XFX 7900GT OC it gave better performance than the X1900XTX all but Oblivian! All for $200 less.
a b U Graphics card
July 1, 2006 11:30:20 PM

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Guys, what are you talking about.
In Meximum PC Mag for Jun, Tested an XFX 7900GT OC it gave better performance than the X1900XTX all but Oblivian! All for $200 less.

Wow, they are either incompetent benchmarkers or on NV's payroll. What did they test, 1024x768 no fsaa? The X1900XTX spanks a 7900GT!
July 1, 2006 11:30:56 PM

Well, there's statistics and there's statistics - so whatever someone says, someone else is going to prove them wrong.

The 'guys' you referred to was only one guy actually who claimed the X1900XT was better. Personally I don't care and I would have the 7800/7900GT SLI over the X1900XT any day. Sure the ATi card is fast but it was a bit of a knee-jerk reaction to the 7900 series when ATi realised the X1800 wasn't all it was made out to be. Someone said the X1900 was 4 X1600 cores bolted together and whilst I'm not sure how true it is, it does chuck out a lot of heat, in fact a lot more than a 7900GT, so from that perspective, if we're talking a few FPS here and there, I'd sooner the lower heat generating, less power hungry 7900.

I don't know what is going on in those THG benchmarks but just about all benchmarks I've read placed the 7900GTX above everything and 7900GT was pretty damn good too, maybe the X1900 beats them out in bottlenecked benchmarks where the mental memory and core clocks let it win. I don't know, and after all this I'm starting not to care any more...
a b U Graphics card
July 1, 2006 11:56:04 PM

Note, the X1900XTX beat out the 7900GTX in 5 of the six links I gave too. The GTX took Doom 3.

If you read as many reviews as you can find, They are pretty equal cards IMO. But if I had to pick a winner it would be the XTX.
July 2, 2006 12:00:34 AM

Erm, yes and we were talking about a X1900XT vs. 2 7800/7900GTs in SLI?

Like I said, someone can find a benchmark for every argument.

No-one has commented on what I said about the X1900 putting out a lot more heat and consuming a lot more power than the 7900 series yet.

To the original poster, just go with the X1900XT then. Fact is, as you will only own one of your two options you have no comparison and I doubt you would miss one or the other. They will be plenty fast enough either way.
a b U Graphics card
July 2, 2006 12:24:19 AM

Ah, the last few posts hadn't been about SLI, and you replied to the guy who said Maximum PC put the 7900GT above a X1900XTX. And from what I saw nobody talked about SLI 7900GTX, so I saw this part of your comment:
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but just about all benchmarks I've read placed the 7900GTX above everything and 7900GT was pretty damn good too,

And assumed you were saying single 7900GTX is above all else. So that part of your statement was meant to say 7900GTX SLI?
a b U Graphics card
July 2, 2006 12:32:43 AM

To me, the heat and power aren't that big a deal in the extreme high end. Especially considering the ATI cooling design pumps that heat right out of the case. The 7900GT refernce cooler puts all the heat into the case and the 7900GTX put's 50% of the heat into the case. People also state the X1900XT and X1800XT coolers are loud, but I'll tell ya my X1800XT is quieter and way more pleasent sounding than the evga 7800GT I had. The X1800XT is only obnoxious for the first 2 seconds of system bootup.
July 2, 2006 12:42:50 AM

It's in the title and I did mention SLI briefly in my post.

I still think a single 7900GTX is one of the better single cards out there, ignoring the 7950GX2 which may technically be a single card but is in fact a crappy SLI botch job. At this kind of level all cards are so close it's no longer a big deal.

I replied to the guy (maxtoons) who mentioned Maximum PC because everyone seems to be finding benchmarks from various places either for or against some argument and just seemed inconclusive.

For the title's sake, I would take 2 7900GTs in SLI over the single X1900XT, but maybe that's just me.
July 2, 2006 1:17:22 AM

You probably won't find a game that the 7900GTs don't beat the X1900 in.
a b U Graphics card
July 2, 2006 2:24:40 AM

Gotcha. I'm with you 7950GX2 is tops. Then the X1900XTX, 7900GTX, X1900XT all very close to each other. None would win every game. I like the plain XT for it's price.
a b U Graphics card
July 2, 2006 2:42:00 AM

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You probably won't find a game that the 7900GTs don't beat the X1900 in.

Very few games, but I wouldn't wager on zero games. Oblivion (most demanding outdoor areas) might be one game for starters. Based on FS's review they were neck and neck, but the XTX beat SLI 7900GT in the foliage. Plus any game SLI doesn't work properly or without much benefit. While support is getting better and better, there have been games where SLI is slower than a single of the same card.

The X1900XT beat 7900GT SLI in Black and White 2 with FSAA:
http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2769&p=6

It barely lost BF2 in the same review and 16x12 4xfsaa in X2 they tied. Otherwise 7900GT SLI beat the XT in all other games in Anand review anyway.
July 2, 2006 3:29:09 AM

think about the x1900 xtx... it actually looks nice, i mean, if u like how a card is designed, ati is always the way to go... they look nicer.

anyhow... these two should be around the same performance depending on what u want from them.

ie... if they are pipeline heavy games, ie... oblivion, ati would win, its obvious from how x1900 xt / xtx is built.

and also, think about it, 2 7900gt would give u no more room for change, ie, if ur gonna switch cards, ur gonna have to dump out both of them... whereas if u have the x1900, if u dont need it nemore, its just one card. and then u can frame it up, cause ati always look nice!

its not bout performance guys... its about looks :D 
a b U Graphics card
July 2, 2006 4:34:41 AM

I hear all this talk about the x1900xtx putting out enormous amounts of heat...what heat, mine runs at 60'c under load on stock cooling,50'c at idle...about 2'c more than my x850xt puts out.(thermaltake v1000d case)
what does the 7900xtx put out?
a b U Graphics card
July 2, 2006 8:52:51 PM

You bought a X1900XT! Ugh, yeah, they will raise your room temps 20 degree and you won't be able to use them mid Summer. Actually, you are better off popping a hole in your siding, running some ductwork, and directly venting them out of the house. I think HVAC 1-800 # can be found in the X1900XT owners manual as most peoples current system is inadeqaute to deal with the Radeon. Careless mistake man, you should have bought a 7600GT. :tongue: :roll:


By the way, if you don't sense the sarcasm, I'll give you $150 to take that molten GPU off your hands. :wink:

The X1900XTX burns more power than the 7900GTX, but that heat produced is vented directly out of the case, not just 50% vented like the GTX. It's a non issue to me, the noise of the fans matter more than the heat produced IMO. It's like sayimg the two slot X1800XT cooler is a negative point over the 7900GT. To me, I'll take the two slot cooler anyday to get the heat outta there.
July 2, 2006 10:44:22 PM

umm yeah, go for the x1900xt and crossfire it down the road with ur saved money
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