how much will the conroe that beats out the fx-62 cost?

35 dollar.
Russel Peters anyone?

how, the, HELL, can they sell that for 380 bucks?!?!?!?!?!!??!?!

i now finally understand just how godly the conroe is, and i'll be purchasing the e6700

The E6700 is $530 in lots of 1,000. So expect to pay $610 - $636 with a 15% to 20% retail markup.

I thought the 2.4 GHz E6600 was suposed to cost $316 not more, if it will i can say good bye to it   ....fake advertising ( i know some pple say its per 1000 units , but no one stated that info, some sites did others didnt)

When quoting processor prices, it's almost always done in quantities of 1000. AMD's prices are always listed in kilo count as well.

Its $1900 over here. Pricey indeed. Or it can apparently be ordered for $1600.

Well in good old UK, you can pre order the E6600 for £252.

Now taking VAT off that is £214 so at current rates thats $395.

I would take at least $50 off that total as in the UK we get screwed so its around $300-$350.

The E6700 is a huge jump in price £411 thats double for a 0.26ghz increase.

yeah but the e6700 might have more unlocked multipliers than the e6600

yeah but the e6700 might have more unlocked multipliers than the e6600

The E6700 is not an Extreme part so it does not have unlocked multipliers. The only way to over clock the part is by using the FSB method. For the X6800 it is unlocked so you can either increase the multipler or FSB or both.

yeah but the e6700 might have more unlocked multipliers than the e6600

The E6700 is not an Extreme part so it does not have unlocked multipliers. The only way to over clock the part is by using the FSB method. For the X6800 it is unlocked so you can either increase the multipler or FSB or both.

should i buy an e6700 and overclock it to 4ghz, or buy an e6800? i mean what is the difference between the two besides the clockspeed?

damm makes me glad I live in the States.......$1900..?? thats still over 1300 US isn't it?

The X6800 has been binned out to run in spec at 2.93GHz. The part is also unlocked this makes overclocking a breeze because you can increase the multiplier or FSB or both. It will set you back the most but if you really want to overclock and have the easiest time doing it then the X6800 is the one to buy. But looking at all of the early performance numbers on the web you can certainly not go wrong getting the E6700 overclocking it.

i mean really, the whole damn conroe series kills the fx-62 pretty much, how much faster would i need a computer to be. I'm going with the E6700, and maybe i'll overclock it slightly. It's not worth the extra 500 bucks just for unlocked multipliers.

$240 + retail market pricing

$1400 if I'm not mistaken.

i mean really, the whole damn conroe series kills the fx-62 pretty much, how much faster would i need a computer to be. I'm going with the E6700, and maybe i'll overclock it slightly. It's not worth the extra 500 bucks just for unlocked multipliers.

Dude --- there is no such thing as too little speed.... the point where I can encode a 2 hour video in 3 seconds, then I will be satisfied  

For about the next 9-12 months, it appears Intel will wear the crown --- it could be longer we haven't seen any action from K8L, as I have said before it looks impressive on paper, but it is on paper at the moment.

Which reminds me, we have see Core 2 previewed, booted, running games and benches IDF or not --- yet people call it a paper tiger, where as K8L was shown just a few weeks ago and the image we saw was not a die shot but a cad plot, yet some are already proclaiming "pwnage and victory". Again, hipocrisy and double standards -- it drives me nuts   ...

Normally, when people approach me asking for computer buying advice I typically tell them go ahead and buy, 6 months down the road there is always something just a little faster. Rarely do I advise waiting, then comes a moment in the industry where a revolutionary product is on the horizon then I usual advise wait and buy then. Core 2 is one of those wait and buy then moments  

You are asking good questions, thanks for the disucssion topics that steer the forum away form "up yours" to "you moron" threads  

Jack

thanks man. i was against intel at first, until i read about conroe and how cheap the price was, now i'm for both, but intel more.

What hard-drives are you using? I want one!  

I agree. I like FSB overclocking anyway, and for the enthusiast, FSB manipulation is more rewarding compared to just upping the multi. I wish Intel would do it like AMD. You can only lower the multi on lower-clocked models. I like the idea of running a Conroe at a 400+FSB. For enthusiasts, high quality RAM is a given anyways, as well as top-notch mobo's, so i say.....FSB Away!!

What hard-drives are you using? I want one!  

Of the 7 HDs in my box, I currently have 1.2 Terabytes in the system, it is almost full on all drives. One drive is my music library (backed up to DL DVD), one is my gaming drive, and rest are for video and editing. I am a videographer hobbiest.

I have a mix of drives, for my system drive I have a 74 Gig Raptor, for my data drives I have mix of Maxtor and Seagate --- standard consumer fair with not the greatest peformance, be holds all my crap.

Jack7 drives inyour case? You must have some nice airflow going through your case to erradicate all that heat. :?

i mean really, the whole damn conroe series kills the fx-62 pretty much, how much faster would i need a computer to be. I'm going with the E6700, and maybe i'll overclock it slightly. It's not worth the extra 500 bucks just for unlocked multipliers.

Dude --- there is no such thing as too little speed.... the point where I can encode a 2 hour video in 3 seconds, then I will be satisfied  

For about the next 9-12 months, it appears Intel will wear the crown --- it could be longer we haven't seen any action from K8L, as I have said before it looks impressive on paper, but it is on paper at the moment.

Which reminds me, we have see Core 2 previewed, booted, running games and benches IDF or not --- yet people call it a paper tiger, where as K8L was shown just a few weeks ago and the image we saw was not a die shot but a cad plot, yet some are already proclaiming "pwnage and victory". Again, hipocrisy and double standards -- it drives me nuts   ...

Normally, when people approach me asking for computer buying advice I typically tell them go ahead and buy, 6 months down the road there is always something just a little faster. Rarely do I advise waiting, then comes a moment in the industry where a revolutionary product is on the horizon then I usual advise wait and buy then. Core 2 is one of those wait and buy then moments  

You are asking good questions, thanks for the disucssion topics that steer the forum away form "up yours" to "you moron" threads  

Jack

Why not 2 seconds? I . . . I don't think I'd be able to tolerate waiting 3 seconds to encode a 2 hour video.

Nah, they'll just claim that they're bought off like the rest of the world.

guys i was talking about speed in today's world, not 3 years from now when encoding a 2 hour movie will take 30 seconds

Well with the HDDVD and Blu-Ray on the way encode times will go up so all that extra processing power will be very useful.

the intel core 2 duo will retail for 599 us dollars!!! riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiidgee racerrrr!!!

So, Any one knows how low should the FX-60 939 price go?
How about 4800+ X2 939?
I just don't want to drop my mobo and memory, but with the new intel prices, I am no sure what to do!!!!! :?

Well according to this awesome thread. The 4600 (theres no more 4800's) should be $301 after the 24/7 price cuts.

I am talking about 939 not AM2

Athlon 64 X2 4600+ (socket AM2 and 939)

Yay, DRM!

They want to lose millions.........

Just previously you commented about "up yours" posts and now you take a barb at me.....


I like that Intel doesn't look like Cyrix anymore. I hate that fanboys are having fits and the chip ISN'T OUT YET, so what happens if AMD does have this "Dynamic Threading" stuff and it erases the advantages in Aug stepping?

Keep in mind the FX-64 is coming out, so those number wont exactly be the same. Also keep in mind FX-62 will be priced around that of the comparative conroe about $300. So whatever you go for will be comparatively priced.

**applauds** [/sincerely] :wink:

Keep in mind the FX-64 is coming out, so those number wont exactly be the same. Also keep in mind FX-62 will be priced around that of the comparative conroe about $300. So whatever you go for will be comparatively priced.

If AMD prices thier FX-62 at $300... how long will it take to collapse into a privately held company! :roll:
And if they slash thier prices by 75%, that alone is enough to anger AMDroids to the point of insanity, who actually paid well in excess of $1,100 for thier CPU's... [/massive returns for prev purchases of FX chips... **screw the 25% restocking fees, focusing on the additional 50% return savings**] :wink:      

Keep in mind the FX-64 is coming out, so those number wont exactly be the same. Also keep in mind FX-62 will be priced around that of the comparative conroe about $300. So whatever you go for will be comparatively priced.
OMG!
FX-62 for $300. That was from my dream, last time when I asked they told me that it will cost me $1700 and that I'll have to wait 20 days. There was no one available at the moment.
Keep dreaming MrsD, for that price even AMD themself can't buy FX-62.

Keep in mind the FX-64 is coming out, so those number wont exactly be the same. Also keep in mind FX-62 will be priced around that of the comparative conroe about $300. So whatever you go for will be comparatively priced.
OMG!
FX-62 for $300. That was from my dream, last time when I asked they told me that it will cost me $1700 and that I'll have to wait 20 days. There was no one available at the moment.
Keep dreaming MrsD, for that price even AMD themself can't buy FX-62.


The thing to remember is that the FX 62 is lined up price wise against the 6800, the 6700 is more closely compared to the 5000+ and it is a clear win for Intel but not a total blowout.

CPUs are compared by price, clock for clock.

Yes Intel wins but they should win some being the inventor of the x86 instruction set.

But then oh yeah, that's dead now and AMD64/X64 is the norm - excuse me trend - for MS' server products and through IE their desktop. I wonder if Office 2007 is going 64 bit. That would make those incredibly large Power point file smuch faster and Access/Excel would fly.

God, I just creamed. :roll:

Stop making idiot of your self Baron!
E6600 is a little beat performing better than FX-62. So if we compare the prices, the FX-62 is three times more expencive.
AMD have no chip to compete against E6700.


OMG, again you making bigger idiot of your self.
Lets compare:
1. Pentium D 805 2x2.66GHz 2x1MB L2
2. Athlon FX-60 2x2.6GHz 2x1MB L2
The Pentium D has higher clock, but the FX-60 is 6 times more expencive than the D 805.


Another BS dumbass coment that has nothing with the subject. Intel were always leaders in x86 since it exists (30 years), except the 3 years when they have been owned by AMD. 27 years Intel being the best, and 3 years AMD.


Another BS-ty coment out of your dumbass head. I am tired of commenting your stupidity and AMD bias.

Dude, if exel gets your pants soiled, you should cheak out girls :twisted:

amd is significantly more expensive right now, i agree... but there hasnt been a price drop yet either for them, as is expected on the 24th... ...for example, an x2 3800+ right now is ~$300... but you cant compare conroe to that price... when conroe does start shipping however, the same x2 3800+ will be about ~$150 (that will then be the price to compare to)... just pointing out that you cant really compare 'future' release product pricing, with current release product pricing... and have it really mean much, because it wont be relevant at the time of conroes release to the public.

But the 5000+ is under $700 now and may go down to under $500. I saw the benchmarks and the 5000+ is basically an FX60 on AM2. I'm hoping that we'll see some 4-3-4-9 800 and the 5000+ will look VERY GOOD.

It may not be faster but people bough Intel when the margin was 1GHz or more.



damn proofreading and CPU jealous nitwits. Edited just for you.





AMD also sued and won because Intel cheated, the Korean, Japanese have made their displeasure known legally also, so you're in bed with a convicted criminal.

Can't admit that AMDs reverse engineered 386 was the shilznit? Too bad. What were intel's lowlife marketing/exclusivity techniques kept AMD out. Opteron just made them more visible by stealing the high end decisively.

Dude, if exel gets your pants soiled, you should cheak out girls :twisted:

Aaahhh so solly.

But the 5000+ is under $700 now and may go down to under $500. I saw the benchmarks and the 5000+ is basically an FX60 on AM2. I'm hoping that we'll see some 4-3-4-9 800 and the 5000+ will look VERY GOOD.

It may not be faster but people bough Intel when the margin was 1GHz or more.



damn proofreading and CPU jealous nitwits. Edited just for you.





AMD also sued and won because Intel cheated, the Korean, Japanese have made their displeasure known legally also, so you're in bed with a convicted criminal.

Can't admit that AMDs reverse engineered 386 was the shilznit? Too bad. What were intel's lowlife marketing/exclusivity techniques kept AMD out. Opteron just made them more visible by stealing the high end decisively.

Always with the memory deal, you have too much faith in lower latency DDR2, the memory needs to open up to get the latencies you are dreaming out DDR2 1066 1333 1600 are going to be the ideal target speeds for this lower latency memory but last I checked socket AM2 doesn't "officially" support such parts.

Most people like I bought their P4's when they were mopping XP up I got my P4 and had to wait another 2 years before AMD finally brought the K8 to market.

Lolo rebates are what all business do to entice more sales, you call it anti trust Japan Korea said please no more rebates Intel said ok. It's a common business strategy, but when a multi billion company pushes hard of course it looks bad, but so was the time frame this all occurred much different industry landscape.

Clone of Intel’s 386 and math co-processor you mean.

That's so sad. Your FAVORITE CPU manufacturer (that you
would be willing to lay down your life for, to defend)puts out a cpu, that has you praying for memory that will hide it's weaknesses. AMD is at a loss, and they're handing off everything to the memory and mobomakers, to help them maintain their pride. ie:Torrenza-let add in
cards help us out. ie: 4x4-let mobo's support 2 of our CPU's so we can compete.
ie:RAM companies..please produce super expensively priced low-latency DDR800 or DDR1066 so that we don't have to hang our heads in shame. Ahhh the mighty AMD, may just be bending you over, and we know you'll take it like a man. :roll:

Intel produced 386DX 32bit 1500nm in 1985.
AMD produced 386DX 32bit 800nm in 1991.

1991-1985=6 years
WOW, 6 years. Good job for AMD.

I agree, and I allready considered the prices drop when Intel released Conroe. And again Intell will have better performance/price choice for whatever price you are willing to pay for CPU. The topic is about FX-62 and there will be no price drop for FX-62 on 27th(the release date was moved 3 days latter). X2-3800+ will cost $169 than and it will be owned in everything by E6300. The E6300 will be priced $183.

Intel produced 386DX 32bit 1500nm in 1985.
AMD produced 386DX 32bit 800nm in 1991.

1991-1985=6 years
WOW, 6 years. Good job for AMD.Sure.

Keep in mind the FX-64 is coming out, so those number wont exactly be the same. Also keep in mind FX-62 will be priced around that of the comparative conroe about $300. So whatever you go for will be comparatively priced.

You should write fantasy novels.

Keep in mind the FX-64 is coming out, so those number wont exactly be the same. Also keep in mind FX-62 will be priced around that of the comparative conroe about $300. So whatever you go for will be comparatively priced.

You should write fantasy novels. Yes erotic fantasy novels about the AMD engineer that sweeps geeky girls off their feet.