CPU clock spped slower than it should be

Really? Man if that is all it is I am going to be so happy.

Can anyone confirm or second that opinion?

You can, by going into the bios and disabling it. :?:

I second that opinion!

y disable it 4?
it doesnt slow your comp down when playing a game or anything else strenuous
it just saves power and makes cpu run cool and gives u speed when u need it

just leave it as it is

By the way of cool'n'quiet; can you solve my inverse problem? I have enabled it in the bios and installed the drivers but it doesn't work, the frequency remains fixed, what to do?

you must set the power scheme to something other than home/office desk

yes dont disable it.

To confirm it is working, download CPU-Z and leave it open while you use the pc. You should see the processor's actual speed and watch it vary along with the CPU voltate core (V-core) adjust up and down according to the speed of the processor.

To enable it (or fix if not working to fix it) make sure you have the newest amd drivers (patch released last month) and make sure it is on in the BIOS AND turn it on in Windows XP. To do so go to power management and set it to "Minimal power management" and that should do it.

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yes,cool n quiet seems to be the culprit for you.just disable it and your machine should read everything correctly.and to answer the person at the bottom,disabling cool n quiet will enable you to overclock like crazy.my understanding is that with cool n quiet enabled while overclocked,you will find major instability in your system when you are not using it for anything.if someone could confirm or deny this for me i would appreciate it.anyways disable it and you shoould be fine.goodluck.


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I have it turned on here. It scans 30 times a second if you need more power, your cpu immediatly powers back up to 2,2ghz.

And with C&C enabled your cpu runs cooler on a lower voltage. To me that looks like a plus.

I think the point of disabling it was to TEST if that was the reason for the variaiton. If there is a question what is causing it, turn off CC, see if everything reports correctly, then reenable it. Simple. No fuss no muss.

i believe you cant o/c with cool'n'quiet enabled coz it just goes back to default speeds automatically

EDIT
changing fsb speed should work
if u change the vcore it will change automatically

You can also run a game windowed and show cpu-z on the background, it the cpu frequenty goes back up to 2,2ghz. Then you have the answer to. (playing a HD-movie in WMP maybe enough)

there are some free utilities u can get from the amd website such as AMD power moniter which is a little tool that can run in system tray and show u the power savings.
it also shows voltage/speed.
very useful

Probably does the same as cpu-z. But they both work fine. (im gonna try it now to test   )

Just that?!

You can OC with C&C enabled, depending on what you do. I have an opteron 170 (2.0 x 2x1mb L2) and its running at about 2.6ghz with C&C enabled. When less processing power is used or needed it downclocks 50% (drops to 5x multiplier) so in my case that is about 1.3ghz. The 1ghz mark is what they go down to (5x multi is lowest for them) but top speed depends on your proc, in your case 11x multi for 2.2ghz.

if you adjust your Vcore up or down manually you need to turn off cool and quiet, if you dont bump your vcore, you can safely leave it on.

On a mildly related note, download the newest AMD dual core update put out a day or two ago for proper CPU load balancing for your dual coare (amd or intel).

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Don't think a movie needs all the 2.2GHz, on my P4 @ work, a DVD uses up about 10% of the CPU.

Nop is doesnt. But it DOES crank up the speed to full (at least it did it here) and have you ever played a High Defenition movie on your comp? You should try it and then hit ctrl+alt+del and look how much your cpu has to work. (here about 60%-70%) so this is enough to go to full speed again.

And a game like CS 1.6 has enough on my 1,21ghz but also it speeds up to 2,2ghz. So it does it pretty quickly.

Don't forget he's got a dual core. BTW, don't you have problems with CnQ enabled while overclocking, I've heared it around.

i dont know about dual core, never really looked into it. But if you know something about dual core, then your probably right because i dont know anything about it  

And the reason i dont have problems with it is because my mobo (check my sig) doesnt let me increase the voltage on the vcore. So i have maxed out the HTT frequency on stock voltage. It now runs 244fsb on stock voltage. 244*9=2196mhz

Never have stability problems with it   so im happy with it.

The 3000+ is a beauty; I used to keep mine @ 239*9 ~ 2.15GHz (even 250*9 when I wanted the fastest renderings) but since I switched to a SATA drive I can nnot set the FSB to more than 224 (usually keep it 220) if I want the system ti detect i.

So my OC to 2,2ghz is pretty good on stock voltage?

But how come SATA is holding you OC back?

Edit: there are 2 models of the 3000+ right? One on 1,4V and one on 1,35V (dont know exactly), i have the 1,4V model.

The guya around told me SATA is frequency unlocked so it had problems when OCing. You've got to have a mombo that locks it or an external (PCI) controller.

Don't know what you mean exactly. But i dont have a SATA drive, just a IDE one. Because i had to choose a year ago, an IDE 160gb or an SATA 80gb. The IDE was only €20,- more.

The venice core has a voltage range between 1.45 & 1.55 (can not adjust it on my Asus A8V-MX bi it stays @ about 1.48-1.49).

Then ill check it again in cpu-z.

Ah, it runs 1,424V and 1,44V

I already had an IDE and exchanged it with a SATA, If I only knew of this problem then  

lol, sell it on ebay then   From the money you get from it you can probably buy an equal IDE drive, right?

Naah, probably will wait for the money to upgrade to some 3800+, now will just get by with 2GHz.

Why dont you wait on conroe? Like everybody does as i read so   .

You can gain 10-20fps in games, i think thats amazing.

Don't care about games &FPS and haven't enough money/interest to get a top (dual core) CPU now and the 3800+ is the most rocking single core.
Who knows, after 1 year may think of a total upgrade.

Or get an DFI mobo, maybe this is cheaper and clock the crap out of your 3000+? Then you might be able to beat an 3800+ right?

I only need to change HD to do it, remember?!  

Also with an other mobo? that just sucks then  

haha we are a bit off-topic isnt it?  

Who cares, at least we're talking about something interesting, not about the star wars many topics do.

Well, i know i dont care   . Just some people can make a real problem of going off-topic.

Now, since you are a 3000+ overclocker, I just wanted to ask you something:
I don't play games on my PC, absolutely not, and the only reason why I overclock it to get lower render times; that's why even a 10% OC makes a difference to me. I have set myself to this not just because of the SATA bottleneck, I have also noticed that the southbridge chip also gets a bit hotter on higher OC levels; Do you happen to know what degree of negativity it brings to the motherboard. I will probably still use this system for a long time (even 3-4 years and want it to be totally efficient.

Well i have thought about that too, does overclocking damage the motherboard. I've googled on it but didnt found an answer. But OC'ing the HTT also brings higher speeds between the memory and the cpu, so i was wondering if this would damage something?

Any component is effected by running faster, CPU, GPU, chipset, whatever.

I've done the same but with the same results, the processor is the last thing I'm caring about; I know I've got a good Venice capable of 2250GHz or more on stock cooling and all you get is 3-4°C added on load (that's actually less than a 3500+ makes in general)  

Right, but a heatspreader in my southbridge (like that of my onboard graphics) maybe would help me not shorten it's life (it's got a metallic topping and guess it's for that reason).

Well here it doesnt make a big difference i guess. My southbridge heatsink already is too hot to touch. It's an nforce4 chipset with passive cooling :?

Holy sh*t. My system idles very hot with this weather.

CPU: 38*C
GPU: 59*C
HDD: 41*C
MOBO: 54*C (dont know if this temp is correct)

In my room its about 30*C

Right, but a heatspreader in my southbridge (like that of my onboard graphics) maybe would help me not shorten it's life (it's got a metallic topping and guess it's for that reason).

Maybe. Heat is only one factor that may effect electromigration, so keeping the heat as low as possible won't hurt.

Without a failure analysis lab, it would be difficult to determine what caused any failure, and as long as the device lasts through it's useful lifespan, not necessarily it's total lifespan, then I don't think it matters anyway.

Yes, you're a bit high. I just enabled C'n'Q and with my room @28°C CPU idles @ 29, loaded 38, motherboard 36, the only thing hotter is my HDD @42.

I thought most motherboards these days lock the SATA ports

Not mine (Asus A8V-MX)