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Border Fence: For It or Against It?




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I'm for it.. I think it sends a strong message that this needs to end because while it may be good we have the work force, they should be legal.
I don't see Mexico as doing much to prevent it.. especially after the attack on our National Guardsmen recently. The wall is there, not to keep honest, hardworking immigrants out, but to keep dishonest, illegal people out.

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How do you feel about a border minefield?

Reply to turpit

Hell, I'm for the "Fortress America" notion. Cancel all this foreign aid and let's take that money and build a "great wall of china" type thing, with battlements for all us gun crazed Yankee's. We can and should keep all foreign influence out.

Reply to Jake_Barnes

I'd pay to watch that.

Some guy opened a resort in Mexico where you can act like you're an illegal trying to cross the border. They have a team who tries to catch them.

Build the wall, put guns.. Walls are still useful, especially against terrorists who don't have the military capabilities to effectively destroy the walls.

Give the good old boys something to shoot at. :P

Reply to Riser

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Hell, I'm for the "Fortress America" notion. Cancel all this foreign aid and let's take that money and build a "great wall of china" type thing, with battlements for all us gun crazed Yankee's. We can and should keep all foreign influence out.



Its a very conceited/self centered thing to ask, but was this an attempt to bait me personally because of the isolationist debate I got into with Blacklab several months ago? Or are you really isolationist?

I dropped it after I got to 1.2 trillion in savings over a 10 year period isolationism would bring. Proving the point got to be too much like work, and no one was paying me :cry:

Reply to turpit

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Its a very conceited/self centered thing to ask ....


Yeah, it was conceited and self centered. I have no knowledge of anything you and that Patterson Poodle might have been arguing about. I don't pay that much attention to this place ... :roll:

Reply to Jake_Barnes

Go lock yourself in the basement. We'll brick up the door for ya, buddy. :wink:

Reply to Riser

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Go lock yourself in the basement. We'll brick up the door for ya, buddy. :wink:



Alas, I live in FL, no basement :cry:

Reply to turpit

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Its a very conceited/self centered thing to ask ....


Yeah, it was conceited and self centered. I have no knowledge of anything you and that Patterson Poodle might have been arguing about. I don't pay that much attention to this place ... :roll:

Ah, it may be so, but having played the bait game so many times myself, I feel far less foolish asking rather than biting first

Reply to turpit

I'm for a border moat. About half a mile wide, with gators and crocs, box jellyfish, water mocassins, all sorts of good stuff. I'd drive down regularly and poop a ton in it. Those bastards would never bother crossing again.

Reply to Auburn9698

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was this an attempt to bait me personally because of the isolationist debate I got into with Blacklab several months ago?



Don't think for one min., that the relevance, or lack there of ,regarding anything you posted several months ago will be fresh enough in any ones mind to attempt to bait you into anything....You're as insignificant now as you were then. :wink:

That being said ...keep the fcuking illeagles out!!!

As for Jake??

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Patterson Poodle????

8O 8O

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I don't pay that much attention to this place



Bull sh[b][/b]it ,you hang on my every word. :P

Reply to AilingBlackLab

Ingenious! They'll never think to use a boat. :twisted:

Reply to Riser

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was this an attempt to bait me personally because of the isolationist debate I got into with Blacklab several months ago?



Don't think for one min., that the relevance, or lack there of ,regarding anything you posted several months ago will be fresh enough in any ones mind to attempt to bait you into anything....You're as insignificant now as you were then. :wink:

That being said ...keep the fcuking illeagles out!!!



I dont, Ive always considered my self insignificant, but then Ive always considered everyone (you included) insignicant :tongue:

Reply to turpit

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I'm for a border moat. About half a mile wide, with gators and crocs, box jellyfish, water mocassins, all sorts of good stuff. I'd drive down regularly and poop a ton in it. Those bastards would never bother crossing again.




Why bother wasting the money? Much cheaper to send a bunch of B52s along the boarder and lace it with air droped mines than digging another panama canal. Hell, we'd only wind up giving control of the mexican moat to mexico in 40 or 50 years

Reply to turpit

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I'm for a border moat. About half a mile wide, with gators and crocs, box jellyfish, water mocassins, all sorts of good stuff. I'd drive down regularly and poop a ton in it. Those bastards would never bother crossing again.



Yeah.. Because any Brit will tell you that the English Channel has done so so much to stop immigration :roll:

Reply to audiovoodoo

Most of them don't seem to be able to afford a boat, but we can come up with solutions for that, which I already covered from a high level with the "all sorts of good stuff" phrase.

Hint: "all sorts of good stuff" can include mines, if my turds don't get the job done in the first place.

Reply to Auburn9698

First, what, you think bombs and fuel for the B-52s are cheap?
Second, how do you see any option like this as a waste of money? We're talking great entertainment value here! Come on, think positive!

Reply to Auburn9698

Ahh, the response I was typing to riser at the same time you were typing that should suffice.

I think you guys are underestimating the power of my turds in this moat. :D

Reply to Auburn9698

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First, what, you think bombs and fuel for the B-52s are free?



Absolutely not. But it'll cost a hell of a lot less than getting some government contractor from Jersey to dig some 1000 mile long ditch. Unless, of course, you use cheap illeagal labor :tongue:

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Second, how do you see any option like this as a waste of money? We're talking great entertainment value here! Come on, think positive!



I think flying body parts are just as entertaining as gators chomping on swimmers :wink:

Reply to turpit

Yeah, we get a bunch of Mexicans and Bama fans to dig it! They all work real cheap! Just gotta come up with a crafty lie to feed the Mexicans about what they're digging.

How about we bomb any fockers that make it past the quarter mile point? Best of both worlds.

Reply to Auburn9698

We need a damn border fence. Its that simple. It should span the entire length of the US and Mexico border.

How much do you think an irrigation system the entire length, 1/2 mile wide and some tomato seeds would cost? Cheaper than building a wall or a moat eh?

Reply to Riser

Cheaper, yes, but not nearly as entertaining as the moat of death. Just think, that place could be like a horse track. You could place bets on which guys make it the farthest, or how they bite the dust.

"I'll put $50 on the guy in the blue hat to win, and $50 on his little buddy to place!"


"I'll bet a case of Coors that the great whites get that guy over there before the saltwater crocs do!" [/RC]
"I'll put only half of case of Stella up against that because Coors sucks." [/Tom]

Reply to Auburn9698

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Yeah, we get a bunch of Mexicans and Bama fans to dig it! They all work real cheap! Just gotta come up with a crafty lie to feed the Mexicans about what they're digging.

How about we bomb any fockers that make it past the quarter mile point? Best of both worlds.



I would suggest adding contact mines to the moat, but some of the gators might get hurt :tongue:

Reply to turpit

You could add that giant wave thing you see at water parks.. they get about 50% of the way and wooooosh the wave washes them back...

Plus tosses a couple gators on them, maybe a mine or two at that.

I think that would be funny.. the water gets low, they rush in, wooosh.

Reply to Riser

Man.. I know your bad but come on.. You have the total poop output of Northern France and the geriatrics of the English Riviera to compete with. You're good but not even Wingys knob can produce cheese as smelly as the surrender monkeys... Just think what that and a diet laden with excess garlic is going to produce.

Yet still they come across..

Reply to audiovoodoo

Alright, Debbie Downer. You just gonna be a party pooper, or are you going to contribute some ideas that would be awesome to watch live or on video?

Reply to Auburn9698

After the wall is built, do you think they'll hang dead Mexicans on it?

Reply to Riser

** Dons sharp suit **
** Snorts quick line in executive wash room and enters TV exec planning meeting**

I want to sell you a concept....

"LAND OF DREAMS"
'A 100-1 shot for freedom'

Picture the opening credits.. scenes of happy American families enjoying the good things in life.. Sharply contrasting with images of destitution. Take the theme.. compare and contrast the extremes of the two cultures.. Family home / cars / work / food / female beach wear...

Then it cuts to a live pan down shot to a strong faced good American boy stood with 100 Mexican FAMILIES stood behind him..

"Welcome to LAND OF DREAMS"
'a 1000-1 chance of freedom..'

Live from just inside the Mexican border..

The game show where one of these 100 Mexican families could win the chance of freedom.. a chance to live in the LAND OF DREAMS!

But here's the kick...

Cuts to very tasty female presenter with big boobies..

Welcome to LAND OF DREAMS...

On the other side of the border here in the USA we have 1000 convicts .. You guessed it the lucky winner gets a new life in the LAND OF OTHER DREAMS...

**

We can just steal the format of gladiators.. no not that one.. the ROMAN version.. Last standing family wins the stay and the public get to phone vote for the cons based on an assessment of the cons performance.

You play the Mexicans off against the cons in a death match... Franchise the rights and you have the makings of a great FPS... You filter the immigration.. (you will never stop it all).. and we can reduce the prison population for you a bit.. Winner all round..

** wipes blood from nose **

So what you say! You with me on this one guys??

Reply to audiovoodoo

8O It's so crazy it just might work.

Reply to Anoobis

I suppose being an illegal alien in a US jail is better than starving in remote villages in Mexico.

Reply to Riser

I was going to give them your job at burger king but if you want it so bad then I guess they could take the cell of the winning convict... [/adapts to local tastes]

Reply to audiovoodoo

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8O It's so crazy it just might work.



How about we throw in cheer leaders for both sides... The viewers can vote on the best boobie wobble and ass wiggle factor so they can win the team extra weapons...

This is gonna be BIG!!!

Reply to audiovoodoo

I don't think male, homosexual, convict cheerleaders are going to fly here in the States like they do in Australia[/cheap shot at Bomber]

Reply to Anoobis

The would for a prada handbag... [/bribes work]

I was thinking those girls could use their nails to good effect in the arena.. No.. we'd have to find some real women from somewhere...

** thinks for few mins.. **

I know.. the Mexicans can have every illegal cousin that works as hoe or stipper on their set and the cons can have a guest NFL team with them each show...?

Reply to audiovoodoo

Once a month in my school the teachers V's the fifth year in the gym playing murder ball. Twat anyone pissing you off, no comebacks.[/completely true]

Reply to Tom_Smart

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Hell, I'm for the "Fortress America" notion. Cancel all this foreign aid and let's take that money and build a "great wall of china" type thing, with battlements for all us gun crazed Yankee's. We can and should keep all foreign influence out.



In keeping with that theme then, Jake, would you also have the US withdraw from the international community when it comes to international relations? A return to isolationism?

Reply to BomberBill

Did you just totally miss the sarcasm (and humor) there Brett?

Reply to Jake_Barnes

jake you should know that sarcasm is lost over the internet...

Reply to mrface

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jake you should know that sarcasm is lost over the internet...


Yeah, apparently :wink:

Reply to Jake_Barnes

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Did you just totally miss the sarcasm (and humor) there Brett?



OMG!

:lol: :P :lol:

I am sorry Jake. This is embarrassing for me, but I totally thought you were for real.

Crikeys. Sorry about that.

I posed those questions seriously thinking that you might be thinking a return to isolationism might be the go. My bad.

:oops: :oops: :oops:

Reply to BomberBill

The cheapest solution is a massive air drop of exploding Burritos :D

Reply to 4ryan6

I can't really say much honestly.


We employ a lot of Mexicans in our company to work the plant floor. They're hard workers but unreliable in the summer. They go quit to go do landscaping and come back in the winter months.

We're going through for the gov't and verifying the workers.. one of our newly purchased companies that is struggling... HR went through and told the workers they had to provide proof of their citizenship and show their SS#. Around 70% didn't come back to work because they were using fake SS# and were illegal. :roll:

Roughly 120 people working the plant floor and they lost 85ish.. I think it was 87. That hurt production because they were lacking people to work between all 3 shifts.

Reply to Riser

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I can't really say much honestly.


We employ a lot of Mexicans in our company to work the plant floor. They're hard workers but unreliable in the summer. They go quit to go do landscaping and come back in the winter months.

We're going through for the gov't and verifying the workers.. one of our newly purchased companies that is struggling... HR went through and told the workers they had to provide proof of their citizenship and show their SS#. Around 70% didn't come back to work because they were using fake SS# and were illegal. :roll:

Roughly 120 people working the plant floor and they lost 85ish.. I think it was 87. That hurt production because they were lacking people to work between all 3 shifts.




I really don't have a problem with legal Mexicans other than they need to learn the American language, they come to this country they need to learn our language period, other races come here and learn our version of the English language and the Mexicans need to do the same.

We shouldn't have to learn Spanish or supply some interpreter to be able to use them on the work force, their learning enough of the language to communicate should be a requirement for citizenship.

Its so frustrating when you're trying to communicate something detrimentally important to someone that doesn't understand a word of what you're saying, and they go on to do the job wrong and it has to be redone, under those circumstances cheap labor just bit you in the ass, and has cost three times what it originally should have.

They are hard workers and the ones I've come in contact with that understand the language, I have no complaints with what so ever, one thing I've discovered working with them is the loyalty that occurs when you compliment them on a job well done, they work even harder to please you.

The only real drawback I've encountered is getting into a situation where you need to put the American Black man in close proximity to the Mexican Man, working on the same project, its like putting an open flame between 2 open cans of gasoline.

Maybe its just a southern thing, relating to the area I live in, but I have yet to understand why they cannot seem to work together without it ending in some kind of confrontation, but thats another story, and my first post in this thread was just a joke! :wink:

Reply to 4ryan6

There was a study that came out a few months ago.

Said that Whites and "Mexicans" share the same over attitude.. prejustice, racism, etc, towards black people (not African American).

*African American is someone, to me, who recently came over and doesn't have the American culture and upbringing that today's Black population in America has.
I have a few friends who are from Africa who look down upon the American Black person.

Hell, even Oprah came out and said she didn't want to help Inner Cit Kids anymore (predominately black, as she stated was her target audience to give back to) that when asked what they 'needed', they replied an Ipod or trendy basketball shoes (Jordan's).

I have no problems working with the Mexican people who are here for a job. Its their kids I don't always care for.. Mexican population is expanding around here. The parents are nice. The kids have this attitude and Pro-Mexico, hate the US ideology.

That is what I can't stand.. raving about how great another country is that you've never been to, while cutting down your own and calling out unfair treatment.

Reply to Riser

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The parents are nice. The kids have this attitude and Pro-Mexico, hate the US ideaology.

Are the kids born and bred there? Would that give them citizenship if they were? Would they then have a right to free speech? Is that right only supported so long as you agree with US ideology? Is ideaology a word accepted by 4ryan6 as part of your version of English? :wink:


Edit for a typo, fcuking lucky virgin never spotted it.

Reply to Tom_Smart

Fock you. You add letters to your words all the time, daft fock. :wink:

The fact that their parents raise them to be overly proud and ignorant of what America really stands for.

I dated a half 'Mexican.' All I heard about from her dad is how they were related to Pancho Villa and how great he was, how the Americans weren't good enough to capture him, etc.

He was too proud for his own good and he instilled that in his kids. You're not white, you're not American, you're Mexican!

Go to hell, Scouse. :twisted:

Reply to Riser

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A dated a half 'Mexican.'



B- :wink:

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He was too proud for his own good



So true of many self opinionated loud mouths..

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Go to hell, Scouse. :twisted:



I'll drink to that :lol:

Reply to audiovoodoo

When I've stopped laughing, I'll reply to that.

Reply to Tom_Smart

Ahh I admit it. I have a lot of typos today.

My office furniture came in and I've been rearranging my office. Plus, there is a weird smell in our server room that gave me a bad headache.

Maybe some a cat5 cable burning or melting.. could be a new air filter that was installed over the weekend? Could be something else. But I had to change our tapes and in that amount of time I picked up a headache from smelling it in high concentration.

Reply to Riser

Right, headache boy, answer the fcuking questions. Are the kids American? Are you telling me, if they are, that that should share your views or else? What would happen if the numbers of these Americans who don't share your views grows, will it alter your views on democracy as you are now a minority? Wouldn't it be fcuking hilarious if that were the case and they voted away your rights for not sharing their views? When are you going to get it into your head views and opinions are just that, everyone is entitled to them. You just can't go around getting pissed off with people just because they don't share your fcuking view point. [/stopped laughing until your reply]

Reply to Tom_Smart
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