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Best components to OC Conroe E6600 2.4Ghz to 3.6Ghz+

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July 9, 2006 12:38:41 AM

Thanks to the advice of several of TG Forumz's tech gurus and overclocking afficianados, I have decided on an Intel Conroe E6600 2.4Ghz chip as my CPU for a new build. I now need to match it with a crossfire motherboard and ram that will best facilitate overclocking. I want to get the most performance out of this chip as I can.

I am looking for advice as to what

(1) crossfire motherboard (brand/model/ect)
-note: I will be using creative x-fi so onboard sound is not a concern.

and,

(2) ram (type, make, model, manufacturer, settings, ect)

to use to really push this chip to its full potential. My CPU cooler will likely be a vapo chill mini (not the big expensive vapochill phase changer), which is a fancy air cooler and my case will be Silverstone's flagship TJ07 case, which has excellent airflow.

Please keep your comments on point and do not flame posters, ect. Thanks!
July 9, 2006 1:00:41 AM

Get some good low latency Corsair or OCZ PC2 6400.
July 9, 2006 2:23:56 AM

I was under the impression that Conroe is not adversely affected by memory latency so much as memory bandwidth, whereas Athlon 64s benefit more from low latency. Have I made an erroneous conclusion?

I too plan on buying an RD600 based motherboard and overclocking an E6600. For that purpose, which of these would be preferable:

Corsair PC2-6400 3-4-3-9

Corsair PC2-8500 5-5-5-15

Thanks, your input is appreciated.
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July 9, 2006 2:45:32 AM

Yes, but when overclocking as high as you plan, you'll want very good memory.
July 9, 2006 2:52:03 AM

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Yes, but when overclocking as high as you plan, you'll want very good memory.


Yes definatly you will want some good RAM but its not required. I use some cheapo RAM and its working out ok for me :)  I do however think buying some good RAM will get you a higher OC and also if it doesnt allow for a higher OC it will allow you to get all that performance your OCing for in the first place ! I have my eye on a couple of Gigs of Patriot ram.
July 9, 2006 3:33:27 AM

From what I have read about RD600, I thought that the memory does not limit your FSB overclock.

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The most notable feature of the RD600 is the memory controller. ATI has developed an elaborate memory controller that operates asynchronously from the front-side bus. No more memory dividers means the front-side bus can be overclocked drastically without being limited to memory. There will also be support for DDR2-1066 too.

http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=2645

Based on this info, is it better to overclock low-latency DDR2-800, or to get normal-latency DDR2-1066 and leave the clock alone because it's already alot higher than OCed DDR2-800?

I guess the least ambiguous way to phrase my question is: could you please post a newegg link to the memory that you feel is most suited to my overclocking endeavor?

Thanks.
July 9, 2006 4:13:34 AM

What is an RD600?
July 9, 2006 4:19:15 AM

I very interested in ATI's RD600 - waiting for it to be released/tested
for my conroe system

CORSAIR XMS2 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) - $453
Unbuffered Dual Channel Kit System Memory Model TWIN2X2048-6400C3
Cas Latency: 3
Heat Spreader: Yes
Timing: 3-4-3-9

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1682...
July 9, 2006 11:29:29 AM

Ok, I understand now. I don't think I'm going to wait for RD600, however. That might be a future upgrade. Do you know if it would be possible to do just one graphics card and another graphics card for physics on that platform?
July 9, 2006 12:15:00 PM

You should get G.Skills F2-8500PHU2-2GBHZ Kit
2x 1024MB, DDR2-1066, 4-4-4-5, choice of regular retail package or wood/metal box (~100$ extra)

If you ask me, definitely worth the ~400/500$ price if you plan on spending big money on RAM anyway.
Memory is able to run 1066 MHz @ 3-3-3-5
July 9, 2006 1:49:07 PM

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Do you know if it would be possible to do just one graphics card and another graphics card for physics on that platform?

That article about the RD600 states that it supports a 3-card CrossFire setup, and ATi has stated that they will also allow for 2-card setups where one card does physics and one card does graphics. From this, one can deduce that RD600 will support such a 2-card configuration, but I don't have a link to back it up.

On a general note, here is the memory of which Ycon speaks:
GSkill PC2-8500 4-4-4-5

@tmac
Where did you read that RD600 comes out in November? I somehow managed to miss that detail (unfortunately). I didn't see a release date listed in that Dailytech article. The AMD version (RD580) is already out, so I was hoping they had no reasons to delay the Intel version.
July 9, 2006 2:32:39 PM

a vapo chill mini (not the big expensive vapochill phase changer)

The vapo chill mini is crap get a zalman 9500 or 7700cu I had one of the minis it overheated my cpu really crap.
July 9, 2006 2:36:17 PM

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Ok, I understand now. I don't think I'm going to wait for RD600, however. That might be a future upgrade. Do you know if it would be possible to do just one graphics card and another graphics card for physics on that platform?


I think I'll just sit back and wait for DFI RD600. Plenty of things to do while all of you guys play Guinea pig and work out the kinks for me.

TIA!
July 9, 2006 5:52:28 PM

When do you think the features of RD600 will start being supported in games. Do you think games like Crysis, UT2007 or Halo2 will support physics acceleration?
July 9, 2006 5:56:00 PM

So physics acceleration via an ati video card is only possible with an RD600 board? The boards on the market now won't ever be able to do it?
July 9, 2006 7:14:58 PM

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When do you think the features of RD600 will start being supported in games. Do you think games like Crysis, UT2007 or Halo2 will support physics acceleration?


I dunno. I'm looking at other features that interest me more than Physix. Also, I trust that DFI will have a very tweakable BIOs.
July 9, 2006 9:41:21 PM

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@tmac
Where did you read that RD600 comes out in November? I somehow managed to miss that detail (unfortunately). I didn't see a release date listed in that Dailytech article.
The AMD version (RD580) is already out, so I was hoping they had no reasons to delay the Intel version.


My mistake - I was thinking of ATI's R600 graphics board.

Sorry.
July 9, 2006 10:03:09 PM

It's cool dude. You just had me worried there for a bit because I hadn't heard about any delay on the release.

I guess for memory I'll go for the absolute best I can get with respect to both latency and clock speed. Initially I wasn't really concerned about the latency aspect, but I don't have a problem with spending $30 more than I would have to get top notch hardware (ie, the G.Skill memory linked above, as that is the only DDR2-1066 Cas 4 memory that newegg carries).

Thanks everyone for your advice.
July 9, 2006 11:19:50 PM

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You should get G.Skills F2-8500PHU2-2GBHZ Kit
2x 1024MB, DDR2-1066, 4-4-4-5, choice of regular retail package or wood/metal box (~100$ extra)

If you ask me, definitely worth the ~400/500$ price if you plan on spending big money on RAM anyway.
Memory is able to run 1066 MHz @ 3-3-3-5


Where do u get the 3-3-3-5 - speculation?
Not overclocked it's 5-5-5-15

I was going to get the Dual Channel Kit System Memory Model TWIN2X2048-6400C3 - Timing: 3-4-3-9

I new to overclocking (as in future overclocker - building system
in the fall)

Both chips are the same set - are they basically the same, just setup
differently? - Do they have the same overclock potential?

Or do u see what people do with them?
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