What mobo for pentium D cpu?

[samir_nayanajaad]

Well my friend called my up and said he was looking to get his sister a fairly nice system. Budget around 700 800 bucks for everything monitor keyboard mouse and pc.

I have a few questions about intels that I need answered, nothing too hard.

1. with the fsb on the 805 being 533mhz and most mobos rated at 800mhz or more will a 533mhz cpu work in that mobo? I see no reason why it wouldn’t but hey just to make sure I’m asking.

2. North bridge and south bridge chipsets what should I need what are the differences between some of the more popular ones? I see a lot of 955 chipsets are they the good ones?

3. Mother board in general. What are some low to mid priced good mother boards for a 805 or 820 pentium D? Once I have a mobo picked out I should be able to handle the rest

so I have been looking around newegg and the forums to start my research so far this is what I have been looking into generally. just throw me some products that you think fit this description or are similar in price and maybe a link to them if you like

Monitor looking for 17' flat lcd aound $200 should be easy to find that

CPU Pentium D 805 to 820 $100 to $170 which one? Is the 820 worth it?

Mobo This is what I need the most help with MSI Asus foxconn any good name brand mobo. Doesn’t need to be duel video card capable but needs to have pci 16x slot for video and preferably onboard sound and sata support.

Video no clue just pci 16x and 128mb or 256mb memory aournd $150 to $200

ram 2gb (1gbx2) $150 (maybe 1gb to fit into budget better)

hdd I know what to get there wd 250gb sata $90

case with 450w or so psu $30 (found that)

mouse and keyboard $20 no prob there

so price is anywhere form $870 to $1010 without s&h so Im over budget for what the pc needs to do.

okay now comes the stuff it needs to do and what my friend would like it to do. All it is going to do is be an internet and email pc that might be used as a base for a home business, the pc I am shooting for is over kill just for that but my friend want his sister to have a nice system anyway that could handle some games too. so that is more of what I went for and went overbudget.

I think if I can cut the mobo price from $150 $200 down to $100, get a not so good 128mb video card thats more like $100 or less I could swing that price range to my friend ($790 at the low end and $860 just for a beter cpu the 820 not the 805)

Like I said above the mobo is what I need the most help with once I get that nailed down I should be okay on the rest.

 

[Akifuddin]

With that budget, I'd rather build an AM2 system:

Asus M2N-E
AM2 3800+ (Non-X2)
7900GT
2GB (2 x 1GB) Corsair XMS RAM
Antec Smartpower 2.0 500W or Antec TruePower/TrueControl 550W Power supply
A nice Lian-Li case, thermaltake armor series VA8000BWS full-tower case or Antec P150/P180?

I'm guessing it's around that price.

 

[The_Prophecy]

If your sister is set on Intel, get a Pentium D 930, or better yet, wait for Conroe.

Here are my suggestions:

CPU: Pentium D 930

Mobo: Gigabyte GA-965P-DS3

RAM: OCZ Gold 2GB (2 x 1GB) DDR2-800

Video: eVGA Geforce 7600GT

Total before taxes and shipping: $684

or... get the same parts as above except the CPU, and when it comes out, get:

Intel Core 2 Duo E6300 (Estimated retail price at launch: $250)

 

[samir_nayanajaad]

Thank you both for your thoughts.

I did think about am2 and conroe but didnt see a need for that kind of processing power. Like I said this thing is most likely just going to be an internet and email pc nothing too hard core at all, maybe play some chessmaster, mineweeper no Oblivion or FEAR.

I did however think about waiting for conroe so that the price of old stuff would drop and save even more $$$

btw The Prophercy its my friends sister, not mine. Im just oridering and building the thing.

also just so other people know this doesnt have to be an intel rig. The pentium D was just the first thing that poped into my head for a budget system seeing how they sell as cheap as 105, but if it is worth getting the 930 for 173 I will look at a $170 ish am2 cpu

Thanks again

 

[shadowduck]

If your sister is set on Intel, get a Pentium D 930, or better yet, wait for Conroe.

Here are my suggestions:

CPU: Pentium D 930

Mobo: Gigabyte GA-965P-DS3

RAM: OCZ Gold 2GB (2 x 1GB) DDR2-800

Video: eVGA Geforce 7600GT

Total before taxes and shipping: $684

or... get the same parts as above except the CPU, and when it comes out, get:

Intel Core 2 Duo E6300 (Estimated retail price at launch: $250)

We must come from the same school, because you echo what I think when you post first. 930 all the way.

 

[The_Prophecy]

We must come from the same school, because you echo what I think when you post first. 930 all the way.

Great minds think alike eh shadow?

So samir, if your friend's sister intends this to be an internet, email and home business system, why not just go for a Celeron D system, 512MB of ram and onboard video? Why did you initially consider 2gb of ram, a 128 or 256mb video card and overall, up to a $1000 price tag? Tell your friend to build for needs, not just because he wants her to have a nice set up....

But if he really wants it to be able to handle some games.... I stand by my earlier suggestions. Go AMD if there is going to be serious gaming down the road for this computer. If it's going to be lite gaming like you suggested earlier, stick with Intel.

 

[samir_nayanajaad]

well thats the problem, I dont have a wole lot of information from my friend on what he wants this thing to be able to handle. First he said low budget then he said gaming so I kinda dont know where to field this pc. I think my friend thinks 800 bucks can get him more than what it acctualy can especialy when I need to buy everything form the os and monitor to mouse and keyboard, not just the tower. That is the main reason I am looking into older tech like 939 and pentium D not conroe, because when it launches this stuff should get considerably cheaper.

He doesnt want to spend a whole lot he said no more than 800 so I instantly thought of the 805 bc its only 100 bucks for a dule core and for 40 bucks on a cooler I can oc it a little to a lot(depends on mobo ram and psu I end up getting). the 930 also looks nice bc I doubt I will oc at all and it has so much better performance (if it goes to intel for this pc I am definatly looking at the 930 over the 805)

I seriously doubt that this thing will ever play many games, but maybe. Mostly what I am trying to do is give him a nice range of possibilities that fit into a budget gaming pc catagory, then let him choose the price he wants to pay for the performance he thinks it will need.

with the 2gb ram I was thinking vista, maybe, and just overall make the pc usefull for a good time.

and like I said before this doesnt have to be Intel, I have only built my amd system, so i just dont know enugh aobout Intels to feel comfortable. I am also looking into amd's both socket 939 and am2, but I know enough about amd to know what to look for and what to buy.

one more thing could someone answer my questions on the fsb and the chipsets for intels?

thanks for the input

 

[The_Prophecy]

The 930 can OC to at least 3.4 (and given the right type of ram.... higher) a 930 at 3.4 should beat an 805 at even 4.0.....

1. The fsb may only be 533mhz on the 805, but it should work in any board regardless of whether or not it says it supports a 533mhz fsb.

2. Your chipset question is a little on the vague side, but what to look for are features which you think you (or the person you're building the comp for) are going to use now, or will use down the road. I suggested the Gigabyte GA-965P-DS3 board ealier because it supports the 805, the 930 and Conroe should your friend decide to get a Conroe chip later.

 

[samir_nayanajaad]

thanks for that I did like that mobo you suggested. Is there any one web sight that has good information on the chipsets? I can just google that one but if there is one awsome web site could you point me to it?

Ok this is a list of the Intel and an AM2 system, they are over budget by 2 or 3 hundred but I can cut that down if need be, but overall I think both of them would be veary nice systems
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btw none of this is set in stone this is just a general list for my friend to look over and see where he wants to go from here in price or performance . I over shot it on performance just so he can get an idea of how much some fairly good parts run in the way of cost.
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Cpus
Intel Pentium D 930 $173 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819116238
AMD Athlon 64 AM2 3800+ $145 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103631

Mobos
Gigabyte GA-965P-DS3 Socket T (LGA 775) Intel P965 Express ATX Intel Motherboard $145 $6.67s&h
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813128012
EPoX EP-MF4ULTRA Socket AM2 NVIDIA nForce4 Ultra ATX AMD Motherboard $91.99 $6.67 s&h
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813123004

RAM
CORSAIR XMS2 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM Unbuffered DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit System Memory $198 $40 mail in rebate
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820145590
OCZ Gold 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM Unbuffered DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit System Memory $199 $5 s&h
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820227030

Video Card
eVGA 256-P2-N554-AX Geforce 7600GT 256MB 128-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 Video Card $164.99 $30 mail in rebate $5.46 s&h
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814130017

OS
Microsoft Windows XP Professional with SP2 $137.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16837102062

HDD
Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD2500KS 250GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive $84.99 $10 mail in rebate
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16822144701

Case
Not sure just let friend or his sister pick one that comes with 450w or so psu and some fans $50

Monitor
$200 19’’ lcd found several again let friend pick one out

Mouse Keyboard(found some that come w speakers for $10)
$10 to $20

 

[qwazzy]

With that budget, I'd rather build an AM2 system:

Asus M2N-E
AM2 3800+ (Non-X2)
7900GT
2GB (2 x 1GB) Corsair XMS RAM
Antec Smartpower 2.0 500W or Antec TruePower/TrueControl 550W Power supply
A nice Lian-Li case, thermaltake armor series VA8000BWS full-tower case or Antec P150/P180?

I'm guessing it's around that price.

Damn puddin', do you suggest that to everyone???!!! Every single post that you've writtten in has that!!

 

[slicessoul]

Pentium I 233 Mhz still able to use for internet. You can have it for 50 cent. :lol: Just joking...

With that budget, and it will be mostly for internet, i would prefer taking a sempron, nicely done motherboard (Asus, or Gigabyte or DFI), 512 megs ram, 80 gigs HDD, DVD writer, a good wireless keyboard + mouse (ex.: Logitech keyboard + it's laser mouse), 19 or 21 inch monitor (so you'll get an enormous web content display), a nicely done webcam, a fast and good wireless router or wireless modem (if your provider doesn't provide it). And keep the rest of your budget for the future in case she'll change her mind to be a hardcore gamer cuz she saw lots of games publicities.

 

[samir_nayanajaad]

With that budget, I'd rather build an AM2 system:

Asus M2N-E
AM2 3800+ (Non-X2)
7900GT
2GB (2 x 1GB) Corsair XMS RAM
Antec Smartpower 2.0 500W or Antec TruePower/TrueControl 550W Power supply
A nice Lian-Li case, thermaltake armor series VA8000BWS full-tower case or Antec P150/P180?

I'm guessing it's around that price.

Damn puddin', do you suggest that to everyone???!!! Every single post that you've writtten in has that!!

yeah Ive seen that alot too and I think it would go over budget by just a little too much.

and Slicesoul I forgot all about a dvd burner but thats just 40 bucks no biggie

 

[INeedCache]

If you're not going to overclock, get an Intel board. It will be most stable and likely give you less problems than any other.