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Just recieved my open box, AGP Sapphire X800gto. Now, when it boots, its all good, but when windows starts loading, there are numerous artifacts. Then I thought I had to RMA it. Then, I started a Linux install, and it ran fine. Maybe becasue I was upgrading from a Radeon 9550 to X800, the drivers might have conflicted with each other. Cooling is fine, because I installed an AT5. Do you have any suggestions. The card seems to work. Im reinstalling XP right now.

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The XP setup seems to be going fine.

Reply to sugi123

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Just recieved my open box, AGP Sapphire X800gto. Now, when it boots, its all good, but when windows starts loading, there are numerous artifacts. Then I thought I had to RMA it. Then, I started a Linux install, and it ran fine. Maybe becasue I was upgrading from a Radeon 9550 to X800, the drivers might have conflicted with each other. Cooling is fine, because I installed an AT5. Do you have any suggestions. The card seems to work. Im reinstalling XP right now.



Maybe a driver conflict? For sure. From what you wrote, it seems that you didn't uninstall the drivers from the 9550 before you installed the X800. You have to unistall the old card's drivers first, shut down the computer, put in the new card and then install its drivers. Otherwise, when you go to start the computer, the computer won't know which drivers to use, or it will default to the old card's drivers and won't run the new card properly. Its a wonder that the computer booted at all.

The reason that it worked ok when you did the Linux istall was probably because you had to install the new card's drivers from the start, so there was no conflict in the programing. If nothing else, that at least confirms that the new card is good.

You probably didn't need to reinstall XP. It may have been working just fine, but was confused because of what you didn't do.

Reply to Sailer

ok, just reinstalled xp, but artifacting. Maybe the previous owner flashed the wrong bios to it. I'll see.

Reply to sugi123

If i try to install the catylst drivers, it says that the ATI device is not functioning, and dosent install.

Reply to sugi123

IMO this would've been a better choice:
http://shop.ati.com/product.asp?sku=2699206

Maybe a bit more expensive but you would have had a hell of a lot more "potential" for your money. If you can get a refund i would advise to ditch the GTO and get that X850 Pro.

As for the artifacting i would try and see what speeds your card is running at using commonly available appz such as:

AtiTool

You should be @ 400/495 (990Mhz) core/Memory @ stock speed.

This is to eliminate the possibility that you may have a wrongly flashed Bios as Sugi123 mentionned.

Also make sure that your fan is working properly and that your card isn't overheating for some reason.

Reply to MCMONOPOLY

I tried relashing the BIOS with ATIFLASH, and it was a bad flash. Now, i inserted my pci card, and tried relashing it, but it says ERROR 0FL01, and the ROM not erased.

Reply to sugi123

You did all that in DOS right? Also sometimes you have to "force" the flash for it to work...but As i said earlier did you first check if in fact it was flashed or not before attempting to reflash it? And seriously,if you just got the card I'd RMA it or try to get a refund for it...Fudging with a piece of hardware that's not working properly from the get-go is time wasted IMO, unless it was a "final" sale with no options to return it or getting a refund.

Reply to MCMONOPOLY

ok, I was able to flash back to the original bios. Now, the problem is that XP has numerous artifacts, and even if I try to install the ATI drivers, it says it cannot find an ATI device installed.

Reply to sugi123

@ What speeds is the card running at right now?
And at what temps?

Reply to MCMONOPOLY

I dont know, because whenever I try to install the drivers, it tells me that there is no ATI device installed.

Reply to sugi123

Have you tried with AtiTool? I posted the link earlier.. Also as I asked, are you stuck with that card or you can send it back for a refund/exchange?
Also you could visually check if the fan on the card is still working.

Reply to MCMONOPOLY

the strange thing is that if I load linux (Fedora core 5), it identifies my video card and monitor, and the setup is w/o any artifacts, and is very crisp.

Reply to sugi123

I'm not very familiar with Linux setups, but i wonder if Linux activates any HW accelaration on 3D cards...Also if it's recognized by Linux, can you tell if it's the correct model number/type of card that it's recognizing?

Reply to MCMONOPOLY

yes, it is recognizing it as a AGP Sapphire Tech. X800 (R430) and monitor as Samtron 76DF/77DF

Reply to sugi123

Have you tried unistalling it from the device manager in WInxp to see if it will be recognized automatically after rebooting? Because sometimes what will happen is that Winxp will try to install drivers for a device based on certain specs but in fact it will install the wrong drivers...
So my suggestion is to get this app:

Driver Cleaner Pro

Install this in WInxp, then unistall whatever Display adapter that shows up in your Device manager window, then reboot in safe mode, run Driver Cleaner to clean up everything thats related to ATI, then reboot in Normal Mode and try to install the latest Drivers from Sapphire's web site..if all fails and you still get artifacts after that I wouldn't lose anymore time trying to fix this card. Even if you still get it to run under Linux, I'm not sure that it's stressing your card enough for it to show artifacts...

Reply to MCMONOPOLY

Thank you very much, ill try that.

Reply to sugi123

You need to install your motherboard drivers first. If you are using a VIA chipset then you need the latest Hyperion drivers. A support CD should have been included with your motherboard.

Install the above drivers and then follow up with the ATI drivers.

Good luck.

Reply to rushfan

I successfully installed Fedora core 2, and its working fine. Only in XP does it artifact like that.(but I need XP to play Oblivion).

Reply to sugi123

Well not to be harsh but have you tried anything of what we suggested in the posts ?! Because as I pointed out it's not a solution to start and re-installing OSes time after time if the problem lies in the hardware...As I said earlier, i'm not sure that any installation of a Linux OS will stress the hardware enuff to make it croak like XP does...Also if the problem lies within the drivers, it's not the Linux drivers that are at fault since you succesfully installed and ran 2 seperate versions of Fedora Core...so unless you're willing to take steps to eliminate logically the culprit of your problem , you should not bother posting results that don't apply to resolving your problem...And if it's possible can you post a picture of the artifacting that occurs within WinXP?

Reply to MCMONOPOLY

ok, ill get the pics ASAP. But, i can tell you that there are vertical bars from the top of the monitor to the bottom, and then the only way to read text is to move it around. And if I go into the properties, it says Default monitor, and adapter not avaliable.

Reply to sugi123

Thank you 10000000 times. Ok, I got the artifacts to go away by installing the driver, but when I try to load trixxx, it says it cant activate 3D acceleration, so my problem is 1/2 solved.

Reply to sugi123

I tried to install the drivers that came on the cd, but after the restart, the monitor would not turn on.

Reply to sugi123

Have you tried Driver cleaner has i mentionned before?

Reply to MCMONOPOLY

Yes I tried. I might just RMA the card, because I think there is no point in keeping it with all these problems.

Reply to sugi123

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Just recieved my open box, AGP Sapphire X800gto. Now, when it boots, its all good, but when windows starts loading, there are numerous artifacts. Then I thought I had to RMA it. Then, I started a Linux install, and it ran fine. Maybe becasue I was upgrading from a Radeon 9550 to X800, the drivers might have conflicted with each other. Cooling is fine, because I installed an AT5. Do you have any suggestions. The card seems to work. Im reinstalling XP right now.



So you didnt uninstall your old card before installing your new card? Wow thats a mistake only a super-noob would make. :lol:

Reply to MrsD

Good thinking there..Hope your new one will be easier to cope with.. :wink:

Reply to MCMONOPOLY

Sounds like the new card is trying to use the old drivers or something like that.

Go to device manager display adapters.

Does your original card or the new one appear? I would personally uninstal the old the old card if it appears then scan for hardware changes.

Reboot

New device wizard should then see the new hardware and prompt for the installation cd.

Reply to thechristopher

He said he tried reinstalling xp, which means no old drivers, but xp itself may have used the wrong drivers as default

Reply to deweycd

I did go into device manager, uninstalled the old default drivers, and it said installing drivers for Sapphire X800gto. After that, the monitor just blanks out. 90% this is a defective card.

Reply to sugi123

Ok, so im going to RMA for refund. Now should I get another make X800GTO AGP (Sapphire), or the 6800XT (XFX) AGP (both are about the same price), or the X1600 AGP HIS.

Reply to sugi123

Like i suggested in my first post, maybe looking at this LINK will give you a pointer as for what to consider...if you can't wait until july 17th then buy whatever you think is best for your needs....
Good luck with that.

Reply to MCMONOPOLY
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