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July 10, 2006 8:26:12 PM

Ok so I have PC 4300 (its a dell pc) and I am looking to get more ram. My buddy says he can get me 4 1 gigabyte sticks of pc3200 to swap out.

1st Question: Will that work
2nd: Would it be faster (someone said 3200 is slower than 4300)?


I dunno to be honest. I am good with a lot of stuff, but when it comes to RAM I just dont know.

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July 10, 2006 9:11:48 PM

First off, please post all of your systems specifications, secondly unless you plan or are already using Window x64 or any 64 Bit OS, you wont get all the benefits form having 4GB of RAM as WinXP can only adress 3.2~3.6 GB in the best cases. (This is due to the fact that some addresses must be allocated for other memory in your system).

Also when your talking about PC 4300 & PC3200, make sure your talking about the same thing, what i mean is that the "PC 4300" you mentionned must refer to the model number of your Dell computer and that PC3200 DDR memory refers to the speed and type of Ram you plan on using...

Also just to let you know, PC4300 DDR memory doesn't exist...it would either be PC3200,PC3500,PC3700,PC4000 or PC4400 etc.
July 10, 2006 9:26:31 PM

Ok I am using Dimension 8400 series with a P4 650 (3.4 gigahertz).

I am using the program CPUZ which is telling me that my ram is PC4300 (266mhz).
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July 10, 2006 9:39:03 PM

I doubt that you have pc4300 in your computer cause like the other guys said, it doesnt exist. 266mhz would be pc2100. So yes the pc32oo is what you want and is faster than pc2100. However 4 gb would be a bit excessive dont you think? What are you using the pc for?
1gb is sufficient for most users, 2gb is becoming more of the norm for hardcore users.
July 10, 2006 9:49:25 PM

OK then, as you may not know if you plan on upgrading your Ram you'll need to get DDR2 Ram (this is why i didn't list your RAMs speed since i assumed it was DDR instead of DDR2) Also note that it is true that PC4300 is faster than PC3200 memory in the sense that it can achieve higher frequencies because it was designed to do so, but in fact PC3200 memory can be "faster" since depending on what brand/type/configuration your memory comes with, it can be set @ faster "internal" speeds (read Cas latencies), so unless you intend on OC'ing your computer (which you won't have an easy time doing since it's a Dell), if you get PC3200 memory sticks to replace your existing Ram, youll still get the same end results, because if i'm not mistaken, your CPU FSB frequency is natively 800mhz, which PC3200 (200mhz quad pumped) will still give you.

But remember that if you pop in your friends 4x1GB of ram and it doesn't show up completly it's ok.
July 11, 2006 7:15:29 AM

Ok..the RAM I am using is in fact posted as pc 4300 (ON CPUZ).

This RAM is also posted as DDR2 not DDR or DDR1 or anything else. Says its Dual Channel DDR 2.

*Timings*
Frequency: 266 mhz
FSB:D RAM 3:4
CAS# LATENCY: 4.0 clocks
RAS# to CAS# Delay: 4 clocks
RAS# Precharge: 4 clocks
CYLE TIME (Tras): 12 clocks

So I dunno? I also found the RAM on ebay...so whats that about if it doesnt exist???

As far as the 4 gigs goes. The deal with that is that my buddy can get me 4 gigs for about $70 total and thats why I am wanting it so badly.

ONE LAST THING...How do I see what "PIN #" My ram is? 240...200...that whole thing. Thanks guys for all the support and help thus far.
July 11, 2006 1:05:15 PM

Hey, well if you read my post, you have seen that at first i tought it was DDR instead of DDR2, so as i said, PC3200 in DDR2 configuration will be fine, the thing that will chnage in the settings is where you now see CPU:FSB 3:4, this will have to be changed to 1:1 if it doesn't set itself correctly when you insert the new RAM modules. ALso you might have to lower the CAS, the RAS to CAS etc. (This will be in the BIOS). Just make sure that the Ram you are getting is of good quality and that it wasn't damaged at one point. And as i pointed out if you stick 4GB in there, only 3.2~3.6 will show up in WinXP. That won't be sad since you will still have like 3 times the needed amount of Ram to run your system :lol: 
July 11, 2006 4:11:12 PM

Yeah...I am a gamer and just was going for 2 gigs of ram and then my buddy was like "dude I an give you 4 sticks for around 6--7- bucks b/c I have discounts. But thanks for the help b/c I will need it I am sure.


Any idea where to look to see what PIN # Ram I have though? thx :wink:
July 11, 2006 4:52:07 PM

you have DDR2 which is 240 pin. google it.

i might be a lil confused here but are you asking if you can switch DDR3200 with DDR2 4300?

DDR3200 is not compatible with DDR2, it will not physically fit in the DIMM's.
July 11, 2006 5:03:54 PM

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you have DDR2 which is 240 pin. google it.

i might be a lil confused here but are you asking if you can switch DDR3200 with DDR2 4300?

DDR3200 is not compatible with DDR2, it will not physically fit in the DIMM's.


Your confused, Im confused because he's confused. PC3200 is DDR, PC2-3200 is DDR2-400. So either you or your buddy are both sniffing way too much glue.
If your computer reports pc2-4300 then thats DDR2-533. If he's offering you DDR2-400, then thats slower than what you have now.
July 13, 2006 2:16:51 AM

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Hey, well if you read my post, you have seen that at first i tought it was DDR instead of DDR2, so as i said, PC3200 in DDR2 configuration will be fine, the thing that will chnage in the settings is where you now see CPU:FSB 3:4, this will have to be changed to 1:1 if it doesn't set itself correctly when you insert the new RAM modules. ALso you might have to lower the CAS, the RAS to CAS etc. (This will be in the BIOS). Just make sure that the Ram you are getting is of good quality and that it wasn't damaged at one point. And as i pointed out if you stick 4GB in there, only 3.2~3.6 will show up in WinXP. That won't be sad since you will still have like 3 times the needed amount of Ram to run your system :lol: 
He said he has a dell. I dont think there is anyway he can change those values to 1:1 and etc.
July 13, 2006 4:00:12 AM

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I dont think there is anyway he can change those values to 1:1 and etc.

I know i said so in my second post :wink:

It won't be easy but you still can play around, but not as much.
July 13, 2006 4:55:09 PM

Hey guys thanks for all the help. I actually ran into some computer techs at CompUSA and they laughed at me a little and said "PC 4300 is right here buddy", and sure enough they were right. PNY and Corsair DDR2 PC 4300. It was 150 for 2 sticks of 512. Now I am just debating on whether to pull out my old RAM and buy 2 stciks of this good stuff???

I hear that DELL's RAM is kinda sucky? Any comments on that?
July 13, 2006 9:35:44 PM

Seriously don't waste your money on exchanging 1GB of RAM for another "Brand name" 1GB of RAM...even if it's cheap stuff, unless you intend on overclocking, which I strongly advise against since your computer is a Dell, you wont see any difference...
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