Intel fans rejoice

After 2 years of being laughed at by AMD FAN BOIS

INTEL is back

so AMD fans.... let them have they day in the sun...

the crown has to pass back and forth to keep CPU's reasonably priced and the tech pushed foward faster...



VIVA LA INTEL
VIVA LA AMD

While I agree with what you've said I found this post to be point-less!

Let the flame wars be. There's nothing wrong with a good flame war. Makes for a good read and always produces some good laughs.

^ See, perfect example. Ah, I needed that laugh, it's been a boring day.

I would rather hear Yankee and Red Sox fans go at it. Go with whoever has the best product in your price range, no need to be a Fan Boy...

rofl, you are so 31337

please tell me im so wrong. i appreciate it, but yet I saw no comment about SLI? hrmmm....Maybe because in most tests it always comes down to the intel machine being replaced 5 times then eventually just saying fk SLI we'll go single cards. Thats funny. "Lets all worry bout my proc running at 3.8ghz and my SHARED 4MB cache" But when it comes down to stability, OVERALL HARDWARE performance and COMPATABILITY. Its still lacking some of the best shit.

i wasnt always an AMD fan....i just didnt like how i was attacked on forums in the k6-2 days for my CPU choice at the time...INTEL users were so smug then...and i didnt like that crowd....so me not liking that crowd...led to me not using INTEL products and rooting for AMD

so i think FAN BOI ism is driving by people wanting to argue with other people over anything

with CPU's lines can be drawn...attacked and defended.... all in fun

i highly doubt a hot chick would want to here on a date how you told off a rival fan boy

So you're saying you'd pay hundreds of dollars more to buy a comparable AMD processor just because some people on an internet message board were mean to you years ago?

Hurt feelings are difficult to shake off. I don't drive on highways anymore because this one guy flipped me off one time, lol....

My wife doesn't even know that her computer has a processor, let alone what brand it is. She just lets me know when it's not fast enough for her and then I take care of it.

Haha, he totally called you LordPoop.

LordPoop sounds better, I'd change your name

Don't be dumb. Actually READ the review. The $320 Core 2 Duo E6600 @ STOCK FREQUENCY beats the $1,000+ FX-62 in nearly all benchmarks.


Ahh, another regular that just registered a new account today so they wouldn't embarrass themselves.


Ummm, that just means Intel has made the 955/965EE/940/930/920/925/915 ALL WORTHLESS.

AMD doesn't have to sell those.

Not to mention they ahve devalued their whole line until after everything is quad. They can't raise prices on Core 2 EVER.

thanks for the typo correction...

and yes i would buy INTEL.....

I have an INTEL rig as my third pc and have an INTEL laptop.

and I will buy a CONROE if it's the best bang at the time of my next rig build.

Since AMD is lowering their prices to take back the price/performance per dollar lead. I dont see Intel doing as great as people think. They have a lot of market share to gain back before the layoffs end for Intel.

Yeah, AMD has to sell it's S939 and AM2 stuff, which is just as attractive as Netbust right now.

Yes, Intil is going to have a very difficult time unloading it's current inventory, but so is AMD. AMD's going to be counting on the 4-way+ server market and mindless fanboys that buy AMD no matter what.

I like, and still like AMD because of their Socket A, Socket 939, and Socket AM2 offerings. However, I'm not a fan of Core 2 Duo after seeing it's marks and value.


AMD will ahve les trouble if OEMs present them as the easier alternative to CHOOSE FROM. They have little to no product overlap anymore so they can sell each family (Sempron, Athlon, FX) as different price points.

I like that Intel doesn't suck anymore but I want to see a scaling test where they take 4600+, 5000+, FX62, 6400, 6700, 6800 and a 7950GX2 and go from 1024 to 1920.

I'd like to see how they all scale with a monster GPU.

Here's a comment about SLI: Dell has them running stable and are ready to sell them as soon as they get the OK form Intel.

http://www.tgdaily.com/2006/07/13/ [...] e2extreme/

Got any links to back your claims of an Intel system being unstable?

Yes, root for the 200-pound gorilla, AMD. They're both Gorilla's, one is just bigger than the other. If AMD manages to strike back and become equals with Intel then we'll have two 600-pound gorillas and I won't know who to root for.

I do want AMD to be better because I don't want an Intel monopoly. If AMD wasn't around we wouldn't be talking about Conroe. Intel would be pushing it's NetBust even further to milk all the money they could out of NetBust R&D.

AMD is only open and sharing (HyperTransport, etc...) because it benefits them. AMD wants to help make money. If AMD could affor to do all the research on their own they would.

1. I agree with you about AMD product overlap, they have really reduced it a lot when they went to AM2, which is a good thing.

2. Yes, you can crank up the resolutions all day long. You know what you'll be testing? The GPU, not the CPU. During a CPU benchmark high resolutions will result in very similiar, if not nearly identical results because of the GPU being the bottleneck. At that point, your no longer testing the CPU, so that wouldn't be a good CPU benchmark.

Has anyone here ever run 3dMark to benchmark or stress test a system? I'll assume a resounding yes. Has anyone ever wondered why on the cpu test that the resolution is extremely low?

http://www.futuremark.com/products/3dmark06/tests/

Pay special attention to the part about cpu testing where it explains that the tests are ran at 640x480 to isolate the cpu from the gpu performance. Would Pippero care to explain?

One pointless post yet starts the flame...

What the fuk? I seen Baron get owned like ever tread geezzz.. Baron get a life and stop getting owned already

Boys, Boys....I think everyon needs to take a step back and take a deep breath. I know it's alot for everyone to take in, but Intel is releasing a superior product. AMD had it's turn in the light, and now it's Intel's turn again. There have been 1000s of unofficial benchmarks showing that the Core 2 Duo is going to be amazing, and I'm sure there are going to be 1000s more showing the same thing. There will also be an ass ton of reviews that are biased towards intel/AMD (i.e. results on hardocp where they bottlenecked at the GPU). AMD would not be lowering the prices of their processors "to compete" if they still had the superioir product. The competition is good for all EUs.

Fighting online is like competing in the special olympics, even if you do win, you're still retarded.

Would you expect that they would raise the prices as time goes on? Normally a new chip starts out high and then the price lowers as time goes on and newer versions are released. Obviously Intel knows their costs and have set their prices accordingly.


My point is that they can't raise their prices at ths point. Core 2 is the biggest jump in perf and price drop ever. With 9xx and Core 2 between $200-500 which one will sell more? how long do you think it will take Intel to egt rid of all of those P4s?

I don't think they need to raise their prices at this point. Only Intel knows their costs and I'm sure they're covering them just fine. As for the existing P4 stocks, I would expect that as Core 2 availability increases, the price of P4's will decrease until the P4 essentially takes the economy segment of Celeron. OEM's like Dell and HP will eat up the low prices. Remember a lot of the people that these OEM's sell to don't have a clue about cpu's but they know the name Pentium and they like it. This isn't shameful for the P4, it's just the natural progression of a company that is introducing a new product line to replace an old one.

As long as there is a MoronMatrix to buy a AMD CPU, there will be
lot of joe 6 packs to buy these 9xx CPUs