Administrators Group members

Karen

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I have a ghost account which is a member of the administrators group. Every
so often, it disappears. Does anyone have any suggestions why this could be
happening?
 
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Karen,

What do you mean by 'ghost' account?

--
Cary W. Shultz
Roanoke, VA 24012
Microsoft Active Directory MVP

http://www.activedirectory-win2000.com
http://www.grouppolicy-win2000.com



"Karen" <Karen@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:7C169EFE-D70D-441B-B211-B7FD46D28D71@microsoft.com...
>I have a ghost account which is a member of the administrators group.
>Every
> so often, it disappears. Does anyone have any suggestions why this could
> be
> happening?
 

Karen

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It's just a user account which we use to clone client systems. I've tried
removing it and recreating it but every so often it simply disappears. We
have thousands of user accounts but this is the only one that removes itself
from a group.

"Cary Shultz [A.D. MVP]" wrote:

> Karen,
>
> What do you mean by 'ghost' account?
>
> --
> Cary W. Shultz
> Roanoke, VA 24012
> Microsoft Active Directory MVP
>
> http://www.activedirectory-win2000.com
> http://www.grouppolicy-win2000.com
>
>
>
> "Karen" <Karen@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:7C169EFE-D70D-441B-B211-B7FD46D28D71@microsoft.com...
> >I have a ghost account which is a member of the administrators group.
> >Every
> > so often, it disappears. Does anyone have any suggestions why this could
> > be
> > happening?
>
>
>
 

enkidu

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There is a Security Policy setting called "Restricted
Groups". One of the groups so controlled is Adminstrators
group. The security policy sets the members of that security
group. If the security policy is applied and the membership
of the group is changed, then you observe just what you have
observed, the group member will disappear.

http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/en/advanced/help/default.asp?url=/windows2000/en/advanced/help/sag_SCErestrictgroups.htm

(Pse excuse the long URL and watch for wrapping!)

Cheers,

Cliff

Karen wrote:
> It's just a user account which we use to clone client systems. I've tried
> removing it and recreating it but every so often it simply disappears. We
> have thousands of user accounts but this is the only one that removes itself
> from a group.
>
> "Cary Shultz [A.D. MVP]" wrote:
>
>
>>Karen,
>>
>>What do you mean by 'ghost' account?
>>
>>--
>>Cary W. Shultz
>>Roanoke, VA 24012
>>Microsoft Active Directory MVP
>>
>>http://www.activedirectory-win2000.com
>>http://www.grouppolicy-win2000.com
>>
>>
>>
>>"Karen" <Karen@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>news:7C169EFE-D70D-441B-B211-B7FD46D28D71@microsoft.com...
>>
>>>I have a ghost account which is a member of the administrators group.
>>>Every
>>>so often, it disappears. Does anyone have any suggestions why this could
>>>be
>>>happening?
>>
>>
>>



--

Barzoomian the Martian - http://barzoomian.blogspot.com
 

Karen

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Thanks but unfortunately this is not the case. I've checked and its still
the default with no groups added to the restricted groups. Any other
idea's???

thanks again

"Enkidu" wrote:

>
> There is a Security Policy setting called "Restricted
> Groups". One of the groups so controlled is Adminstrators
> group. The security policy sets the members of that security
> group. If the security policy is applied and the membership
> of the group is changed, then you observe just what you have
> observed, the group member will disappear.
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/en/advanced/help/default.asp?url=/windows2000/en/advanced/help/sag_SCErestrictgroups.htm
>
> (Pse excuse the long URL and watch for wrapping!)
>
> Cheers,
>
> Cliff
>
> Karen wrote:
> > It's just a user account which we use to clone client systems. I've tried
> > removing it and recreating it but every so often it simply disappears. We
> > have thousands of user accounts but this is the only one that removes itself
> > from a group.
> >
> > "Cary Shultz [A.D. MVP]" wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Karen,
> >>
> >>What do you mean by 'ghost' account?
> >>
> >>--
> >>Cary W. Shultz
> >>Roanoke, VA 24012
> >>Microsoft Active Directory MVP
> >>
> >>http://www.activedirectory-win2000.com
> >>http://www.grouppolicy-win2000.com
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>"Karen" <Karen@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >>news:7C169EFE-D70D-441B-B211-B7FD46D28D71@microsoft.com...
> >>
> >>>I have a ghost account which is a member of the administrators group.
> >>>Every
> >>>so often, it disappears. Does anyone have any suggestions why this could
> >>>be
> >>>happening?
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Barzoomian the Martian - http://barzoomian.blogspot.com
>
 

enkidu

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What did you check? The "Default Domain Controllers Policy"
should show a number of groups and a number of members in them.

Cheers,

Cliff

Karen wrote:
> Thanks but unfortunately this is not the case. I've checked and its still
> the default with no groups added to the restricted groups. Any other
> idea's???
>
> thanks again
>
> "Enkidu" wrote:
>
>
>>There is a Security Policy setting called "Restricted
>>Groups". One of the groups so controlled is Adminstrators
>>group. The security policy sets the members of that security
>>group. If the security policy is applied and the membership
>>of the group is changed, then you observe just what you have
>>observed, the group member will disappear.
>>
>>http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/en/advanced/help/default.asp?url=/windows2000/en/advanced/help/sag_SCErestrictgroups.htm
>>
>>(Pse excuse the long URL and watch for wrapping!)
>>
>>Cheers,
>>
>>Cliff
>>
>>Karen wrote:
>>
>>>It's just a user account which we use to clone client systems. I've tried
>>>removing it and recreating it but every so often it simply disappears. We
>>>have thousands of user accounts but this is the only one that removes itself
>>>from a group.
>>>
>>>"Cary Shultz [A.D. MVP]" wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Karen,
>>>>
>>>>What do you mean by 'ghost' account?
>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>Cary W. Shultz
>>>>Roanoke, VA 24012
>>>>Microsoft Active Directory MVP
>>>>
>>>>http://www.activedirectory-win2000.com
>>>>http://www.grouppolicy-win2000.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Karen" <Karen@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:7C169EFE-D70D-441B-B211-B7FD46D28D71@microsoft.com...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I have a ghost account which is a member of the administrators group.
>>>>>Every
>>>>>so often, it disappears. Does anyone have any suggestions why this could
>>>>>be
>>>>>happening?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>>--
>>
>>Barzoomian the Martian - http://barzoomian.blogspot.com
>>



--

Barzoomian the Martian - http://barzoomian.blogspot.com
 

Karen

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Yes I checked the "Default Domain Controllers Policy". This didn't have any
groups listed in the restricted groups. I read on an MS document that by
default it doesn't add any groups its upto the administrator to make use of
this policy.

"Enkidu" wrote:

>
> What did you check? The "Default Domain Controllers Policy"
> should show a number of groups and a number of members in them.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Cliff
>
> Karen wrote:
> > Thanks but unfortunately this is not the case. I've checked and its still
> > the default with no groups added to the restricted groups. Any other
> > idea's???
> >
> > thanks again
> >
> > "Enkidu" wrote:
> >
> >
> >>There is a Security Policy setting called "Restricted
> >>Groups". One of the groups so controlled is Adminstrators
> >>group. The security policy sets the members of that security
> >>group. If the security policy is applied and the membership
> >>of the group is changed, then you observe just what you have
> >>observed, the group member will disappear.
> >>
> >>http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/en/advanced/help/default.asp?url=/windows2000/en/advanced/help/sag_SCErestrictgroups.htm
> >>
> >>(Pse excuse the long URL and watch for wrapping!)
> >>
> >>Cheers,
> >>
> >>Cliff
> >>
> >>Karen wrote:
> >>
> >>>It's just a user account which we use to clone client systems. I've tried
> >>>removing it and recreating it but every so often it simply disappears. We
> >>>have thousands of user accounts but this is the only one that removes itself
> >>>from a group.
> >>>
> >>>"Cary Shultz [A.D. MVP]" wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Karen,
> >>>>
> >>>>What do you mean by 'ghost' account?
> >>>>
> >>>>--
> >>>>Cary W. Shultz
> >>>>Roanoke, VA 24012
> >>>>Microsoft Active Directory MVP
> >>>>
> >>>>http://www.activedirectory-win2000.com
> >>>>http://www.grouppolicy-win2000.com
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>"Karen" <Karen@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >>>>news:7C169EFE-D70D-441B-B211-B7FD46D28D71@microsoft.com...
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>I have a ghost account which is a member of the administrators group.
> >>>>>Every
> >>>>>so often, it disappears. Does anyone have any suggestions why this could
> >>>>>be
> >>>>>happening?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>
> >>
> >>--
> >>
> >>Barzoomian the Martian - http://barzoomian.blogspot.com
> >>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Barzoomian the Martian - http://barzoomian.blogspot.com
>
 

enkidu

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If this is so, and I don't remember it being so, then I
suggest that you create a new policy, add the administrators
group to that and add the required account to that in the
policy, then apply.

But first check the GPO that is actually applied, not what
is in the default policy.

I am not able to access a Domain Controller or Domain at
this juncture, so I'm unable to check. It's not an area that
I am particularly familiar with either!

However, I'm convinced that your problem is in this area.

Cheers,

Cliff

Karen wrote:
> Yes I checked the "Default Domain Controllers Policy". This didn't have any
> groups listed in the restricted groups. I read on an MS document that by
> default it doesn't add any groups its upto the administrator to make use of
> this policy.
>
> "Enkidu" wrote:
>
>
>>What did you check? The "Default Domain Controllers Policy"
>>should show a number of groups and a number of members in them.
>>
>>Cheers,
>>
>>Cliff
>>
>>Karen wrote:
>>
>>>Thanks but unfortunately this is not the case. I've checked and its still
>>>the default with no groups added to the restricted groups. Any other
>>>idea's???
>>>
>>>thanks again
>>>
>>>"Enkidu" wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>There is a Security Policy setting called "Restricted
>>>>Groups". One of the groups so controlled is Adminstrators
>>>>group. The security policy sets the members of that security
>>>>group. If the security policy is applied and the membership
>>>>of the group is changed, then you observe just what you have
>>>>observed, the group member will disappear.
>>>>
>>>>http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/en/advanced/help/default.asp?url=/windows2000/en/advanced/help/sag_SCErestrictgroups.htm
>>>>
>>>>(Pse excuse the long URL and watch for wrapping!)
>>>>
>>>>Cheers,
>>>>
>>>>Cliff
>>>>
>>>>Karen wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>It's just a user account which we use to clone client systems. I've tried
>>>>>removing it and recreating it but every so often it simply disappears. We
>>>>>have thousands of user accounts but this is the only one that removes itself
>>>>
>>>>>from a group.
>>>>
>>>>>"Cary Shultz [A.D. MVP]" wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Karen,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>What do you mean by 'ghost' account?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>--
>>>>>>Cary W. Shultz
>>>>>>Roanoke, VA 24012
>>>>>>Microsoft Active Directory MVP
>>>>>>
>>>>>>http://www.activedirectory-win2000.com
>>>>>>http://www.grouppolicy-win2000.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Karen" <Karen@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:7C169EFE-D70D-441B-B211-B7FD46D28D71@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I have a ghost account which is a member of the administrators group.
>>>>>>>Every
>>>>>>>so often, it disappears. Does anyone have any suggestions why this could
>>>>>>>be
>>>>>>>happening?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>
>>>>Barzoomian the Martian - http://barzoomian.blogspot.com
>>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>--
>>
>>Barzoomian the Martian - http://barzoomian.blogspot.com
>>



--

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