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EVERY1 SAYS MY RIG IS GOOD BUT I DONT THINK SO NEED UPGRADE!

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July 15, 2006 9:30:09 AM

Hi there. Ok I am running a Compaq Presario SR1280 System

SPEC IS AS FOLLOWS

MOTHERBOARD: ASUS PTGD1-LA (CANT CHANGE THIS)

CPU: INTEL PENTIUM 550 3.4 GHz 1MB CACHE 775

HARD DRIVES: 2 x 250GB WESTERN DIGITAL CAVIAR SPECIAL ED SATA-150 (CANT RAID WITH MY CURRENT MB)

VIDEO CARD: ASUS ATI RADEON X600 PCI-E 256MB

PSU: 300/350W

OPTICAL : DVD+/- RW and DVD ROM

ONBOARD 5.1 SOUND (NOT BOTHERED ABOUT SOUND)

COOLERS : 1 92MM Exhaust fan. 1 92MM CPU FAN IN ALUMINIUM WITH HEATPIPES

NOW WHAT DO YOU THINK NEEDS DOING? WHAT IS THE MOST COST EFFECTIVE UPGRADE?

More about : every1 rig good dont upgrade

July 15, 2006 10:01:05 AM

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Hi there. Ok I am running a Compaq Presario SR1280 System

SPEC IS AS FOLLOWS

MOTHERBOARD: ASUS PTGD1-LA (CANT CHANGE THIS)

CPU: INTEL PENTIUM 550 3.4 GHz 1MB CACHE 775

HARD DRIVES: 2 x 250GB WESTERN DIGITAL CAVIAR SPECIAL ED SATA-150 (CANT RAID WITH MY CURRENT MB)

VIDEO CARD: ASUS ATI RADEON X600 PCI-E 256MB

PSU: 300/350W

OPTICAL : DVD+/- RW and DVD ROM

ONBOARD 5.1 SOUND (NOT BOTHERED ABOUT SOUND)

COOLERS : 1 92MM Exhaust fan. 1 92MM CPU FAN IN ALUMINIUM WITH HEATPIPES

NOW WHAT DO YOU THINK NEEDS DOING? WHAT IS THE MOST COST EFFECTIVE UPGRADE?


You didn't mention your RAM. The easiest, most effective upgrade would be your RAM. Your video card is weak. My suggestion is more RAM and a more effective video card.
July 15, 2006 10:05:32 AM

turn off caps lock :wink:
July 15, 2006 10:11:56 AM

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turn off caps lock :wink:


He did. That's why he has no ram.
July 15, 2006 10:42:15 AM

change your video card and take that x600 to it's grave(get a 7600GT or some ATI for the same miney and performance x1800xl or GTO),the cpu is ok and thats about it,and what RAM do you have?
July 15, 2006 10:42:25 AM

Oh yea lol. I have

MEMORY: 2GB 4*512MB Infineon DDR 400
July 15, 2006 10:59:48 AM

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Oh yea lol. I have

MEMORY: 2GB 4*512MB Infineon DDR 400


Your system looks all right except you might upgrade the video card. You have a lot of storage, a fast processor and you solved the CAP lock problem and found 2 gigs of Infineon RAM. I'd say your doing well for a guy who uses an HP.
July 15, 2006 11:01:30 AM

Lol Yea the Video Card is a major let down. As well as the now too high cpu temps since i removed the heatsink. Would you recommend a 6600?
July 15, 2006 11:08:15 AM

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Lol Yea the Video Card is a major let down. As well as the now too high cpu temps since i removed the heatsink. Would you recommend a 6600?


Those socket 775 heatsinks can be tricky. Especially if you don't have one and are running a socket 775.

Yeah 6600GT's are going for like a hundred skins. A 7600GT would be much better and they are under two hundred. I'd suggest an ATI x1900xtx, but you'd probably have to alter the HP case you have. Like cut a big hole out the front to fit it in there.
July 15, 2006 11:09:48 AM

lol i put it back on after i took it off. Need some alcohol. I didnt know cpus drank alcohol but apparently it makes them cooler too! I will have to do that
July 15, 2006 11:11:32 AM

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CPU: INTEL PENTIUM 550 3.4 GHz 1MB CACHE 775



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Lol Yea the Video Card is a major let down. As well as the now too high cpu temps since i removed the heatsink. Would you recommend a 6600?



You removed the heatsink on P4 550 8O .......everbody stand back..

July 15, 2006 11:12:22 AM

Any advice on how to get optimum low temps by cleaning the heatsink?
July 15, 2006 11:15:53 AM

i just became a newbie! :D 
July 15, 2006 11:16:31 AM

I think youd have to do more than stand back from a blast like that
July 15, 2006 11:16:54 AM

Clean off the old thermal paste using isopropyl alcohol, and replace it with a thin coating of Arctic Silver 5. You can probably find some at your local Micro-Center/ Fry's (depending where you live).
July 15, 2006 11:18:36 AM

we dont have one of those in the UK lol. errmm. In regards to the Arctic Silver. I have Manhattan thermal paste it is some metal thing what difference will there be?? I am using a Compaq Stock cooler. It is aluminium and has 3 heat pipes
July 15, 2006 11:28:12 AM

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Any advice on how to get optimum low temps by cleaning the heatsink?


This is a bit old hat, but have you heard of a technique called lapping? Lapping your heatsink gives it prefect flat base for optimum heat transfer.

If you interested do a google search for Lapping Heatsinks. If that’s a bit extreme for you, then you could clean the bottom of the heatsink with alcohol or white sprits and apply Artic Premium thermal paste.

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we dont have one of those in the UK lol. errmm. In regards to the Arctic Silver. I have Manhattan thermal paste it is some metal thing what difference will there be?? I am using a Compaq Stock cooler. It is aluminium and has 3 heat pipes


You can buy artic from places like overclock.co.uk . :) 
July 15, 2006 11:37:28 AM

Get it from Robert Dyas or Homebase or somewhere like that. Maplin will have some.
July 15, 2006 11:38:12 AM

Arctic silver or sandin paper?
July 15, 2006 12:14:54 PM

I am confused. You have a Compaq Presario with Asus mother board?

Anyway, I built a system a year ago and it is very similar to yours:

Asus P5GD2 Deluxe (hardware controler for RAID)
P4 Prescott 3.0 GHZ
Aftermarket fan for cpu (GIGABYTE)
Artic Silver
2 Gig DDR2 533 Kingston Ram
ATI Radeon X600 Pro
1 120mm fan and 2 80mm fans (case)
400 wat power supply
3 sata segate hardrives (2 80 gig, 1 200 gig)

This chip has history of being hot but with common sense it is no problem. I have temps of mid 30s idle and mid 40s load

The graphics card was nothing special at the time and it is crap today. I bought it because at the time I had to pay for all of these parts at once. My plan is in a few weeks I will get a new graphics card and a few bigger Hard drives (they are very cheep now).

Next summer I will up grade the motherboard and chip.

I hope this helps
July 15, 2006 1:00:12 PM

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I am confused. You have a Compaq Presario with Asus mother board?



HP's mobo supplier is Asus, but the BIOS is severely limited since there are no options for overclocking.
July 15, 2006 1:02:14 PM

Yep thats exactly right . It is the same as a p5gd1 i think but all compaw flashed
July 15, 2006 2:20:05 PM

I don´t now when you got this or what your buget is:

1. I would buy a good quality, roomy, well ventilated case.
2. Then I would buy a good quality (spend the money) power supply.
3. Then, depending on buget and what happens with tecnology I would start to change over the components.

OR

I would not do anything


The reason is that Compaq, Dell etc. are good computers for people who don´t want to change things.

For example, If you buy a better graphics card you may not have enough room in your case and your 350 psu will probably not be enough.

Start with the case.......
July 15, 2006 3:13:25 PM

I have had this machine since March 05 and it cost me 690 pounds sterling.

I can get a different card in but i dontk now if the psu will take it. I have a 450 w psu cooler master but havent put it in. Is that any good? It is brand new. It all runs good and fast. Its jut i dont get good gaming graphics and im idling 60c now lol
July 15, 2006 3:32:00 PM

That PSU is more than sufficient for anything you could ever need, unless you wanted quad SLi or someting ridiculous/pointless.
July 15, 2006 4:03:32 PM

buy a new...roomy...cool case for like 75-150 bux (i got a centurion 532...its great) (btw im in dollars)

get a new videocard...as this is what is slowing you down in games making you want to upgrade. spend like 200 dollars and you get a great card for the value (usualy last generations top tier)

besides that....your pc is doing fine

the new case will make it much easier to work on (and its something you can keep for years)
July 15, 2006 7:25:17 PM

Yes, 450w is fine but at the begining of you post you said 300/350w which probably would not for a more powerful g card. Anyway, I would get a good roomy, well ventilated case and go from there.
July 15, 2006 8:12:03 PM

Get rid of that X600, and give it to me so that I can do Crossfire. Oh, wait; X600s can't run in Crossfire. Toss the card and get something like a 7600GT.
July 15, 2006 8:43:49 PM

It now has a 300 fitted but i have a 450w which i have had no reason to fit lol. Is 65-68c hot for idle?
July 15, 2006 8:57:29 PM

Yes, thats almost twice my idle temps (different system, but nothing should be double something else)
July 15, 2006 8:58:28 PM

same cpu or u on about ur sempron?
July 15, 2006 9:02:53 PM

Nope, I'm just saying the Sempron idles at 33-35 degrees on a near 50% OC. Even though these are very different systems, near-70 degree heat for the CPU is definitely not good
July 15, 2006 9:04:38 PM

Well what can i say. Shit happens! I dont know what to do tried everything.
July 15, 2006 9:08:45 PM

Perhaps you should try buying a quality CPU cooler and some AS5, that'll lower your temps for sure.

Or you could be creative like I was and mount a second 92mm fan on top of the CPU cooler.
July 15, 2006 9:21:37 PM

I once had a pentium 75 that I overclocked, had a 20mm fan on the hs, and I had a 40 above that and an 80 above that, ah the memories.
July 15, 2006 9:23:41 PM

Yep ok. I think my phone has a bigger fan than that lol.

I cant stick another 92mm fan on top that will block the case fan
July 15, 2006 9:27:18 PM

I'm guessing you have a proprietary/nonstandard case. Maybe just get a cheap full-sized case - the extra airflow might just help you out.
July 15, 2006 9:27:18 PM

Depending on the case it might be a better idea to get more crossflow from front to back, is there a fan in the front of the case? Put in another one, if you only have a cpu and exhaust fan, a bunch of hot air will still hover around the cpu raising temps.
July 15, 2006 9:30:09 PM

You see no one has said that but thats wot i suspect i need front draw of cool air. I mean there is no space for one on the case and there is a front vent but no fan
April 17, 2008 10:45:48 PM

Omid said:
You see no one has said that but thats wot i suspect i need front draw of cool air. I mean there is no space for one on the case and there is a front vent but no fan
Your temps are way to high, I suspect the mounting of the CPU HS.

I just worked on a friends POS HP a730n I forgot the CPU, Intel Prescott 3.0 or 3.4 or something like that. Anyway, the CPU HS fan never seemed to spin up at all. I guess that the newbs that buy HP want a nice quiet computer and are too stupid to know that they are frying the CPU, so HP gives them what they want... quiet. What I did to mitigate this was install SpeedFan and set the CPU fan to ramp up in that. It's a little convoluted but you should be able to work it out. I had to do this because the Aholes at HP had also stripped any thermal monitoring or adjustments to the fan control out of the BIOS. The SpeedFan worked well, however I think you should check the HS mounting because your CPU is on fire. Some additional case fans won't hurt either, but I doubt they are the cause of your ridiculously high 60C at idle.

Also, since no one mentioned it, your Coolermaster PSU is a POS. That stands for Piece Of Sh... Just so your not confused about that .


To clarify, the HS fan did spin, just way to slowly.
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April 18, 2008 1:04:49 PM

Necroposting FTW!!!

Dude(tte?) - This thread is almost two years old. I think the OP may have moved on. ;) 

-Wolf sends
April 18, 2008 3:32:08 PM

Wolfshadw said:
Necroposting FTW!!!

Dude(tte?) - This thread is almost two years old. I think the OP may have moved on. ;) 

-Wolf sends
:lol:  :lol:  :lol:  I usually check that. It must be the awesome new format. :heink: 
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