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Will AMD lower a $1000 FX-62 to $290, or 5000+ X2 to $240?

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July 15, 2006 11:54:08 AM

I'm going to build a new computer during the price war between Intel and AMD. In order to AMD to compete, they must lower the FX line to a lower price than Intel's Core Duo 2 processor. Looks like the E6600 out perform FX-62 in 9 out of 10 tests. Since, E6600 will be priced around $320, I will only go for FX-62 if it is about $290 or cheaper.

What do you think?
July 15, 2006 12:13:19 PM

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I'm going to build a new computer during the price war between Intel and AMD. In order to AMD to compete, they must lower the FX line to a lower price than Intel's Core Duo 2 processor. Looks like the E6600 out perform FX-62 in 9 out of 10 tests. Since, E6600 will be priced around $320, I will only go for FX-62 if it is about $290 or cheaper.

What do you think?


I dont think their is a chance in hell you`ll see a price drop of 1000$ on FX... lucky if they lower it to 750-800$
July 15, 2006 12:16:12 PM

I don't think AMD could handle to such price drop.
July 15, 2006 12:17:36 PM

No, they won't, they can't price their "enthusiasts" CPU that low... they'd rather recall it.
Here is my speculation:
1) FX-62 will be somehow associated with the 4x4 platform, which will keep the leadership in some applications (but what about games?) and hence will have a high price tag, however this price should be proportionate to the fact that you have to buy 2 CPUs instead of 1.
So i guess, FX-62 around 500-600$

2) the 5000+ has more or less the performance of an FX-60, so it is inferior to an E6600, but relatively close.
It could be priced at 300$, and leverage on the lower cost of the chipset to be competitive with a Conroe platform.
Plus the Socket AM2 is supposed to be compatible with future high performance CPUs (K8L)
July 15, 2006 12:18:49 PM

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I'm going to build a new computer during the price war between Intel and AMD. In order to AMD to compete, they must lower the FX line to a lower price than Intel's Core Duo 2 processor. Looks like the E6600 out perform FX-62 in 9 out of 10 tests. Since, E6600 will be priced around $320, I will only go for FX-62 if it is about $290 or cheaper.

What do you think?


I dont think their is a chance in hell you`ll see a price drop of 1000$ on FX... lucky if they lower it to 750-800$And if AMD did manage to lower the FX-62 to $300, they would have some seriously p*ssed off fans who paid over $1000 for it 2 months earlier. 8O
July 15, 2006 12:40:17 PM

Yeah, but nobody should get pissed because new technology either results in big price drops or performance advances.
This happens in all high-tech markets, for example mobile phones...
According to Pippero's Law: you can buy an infinitely fast CPU, at zero price, if you wait an infinite time.
:lol: 
July 15, 2006 1:02:37 PM

They say they want to keep the price/performance crown, but things like that you always take with a grain of salt. They will make sure they get it back in some areas, but they wont have it across the board. You would need to seriously drop the prices. I would imagine the prices will land somewhere close to the earlier released price drops that were coming, but maybe a little more drastic.
July 15, 2006 1:11:03 PM

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I'm going to build a new computer during the price war between Intel and AMD. In order to AMD to compete, they must lower the FX line to a lower price than Intel's Core Duo 2 processor. Looks like the E6600 out perform FX-62 in 9 out of 10 tests. Since, E6600 will be priced around $320, I will only go for FX-62 if it is about $290 or cheaper.

What do you think?




No the FX won't drop that much even though Core 2 is faster. 955/965EE didnt drop in price.


The X2s will take something off the top. Anand estimates that the 5000+ will cost... wait for it...

$403

With an ASRock or FoxConn mobo at $100 along with an Abit 570SLI at $129, the 5000+ is a serious deal. I see them MAYBE knocking $200 off the price of FX62. That will be a lot, especially since there are still 965s out there getting $1000.
July 15, 2006 1:17:17 PM

The Pentium EE was only marginally slower than the FX, and it could even win a few benchmarks.
Also, the Pentium EE was produced by INTEL, the market leader.
The FX can't do the same, because Core Extreme simply mops the floor with it, AND AMD does not have the same marketing, branding and OEM contracts that Intel had/has.
July 15, 2006 1:26:46 PM

An FX-60 shuold also be a major price dropper, considering it is for now outdated 939 architecture.
July 15, 2006 1:28:18 PM

Yup, fortunately or unfortunately, Intel always had huge brand value. Trust me, many people I know think Intel is the only CPU maker in the world. So, they could afford to price their products higher than comparatively performing AMD products.

AMD will not be able to do that. Because, the people who buy AMD are usually informed people (otherwise, they would just buy Intel :D  ), and that sort of people know what to buy.

I don't think any informed people will be interested in buying an FX given the present situation; unless it is for a 4x4.

The problem with 4x4 is, it is too damn expensive. 4x4 will appeal only to people willing and able to spend $2000 on the CPU part alone. How many such people are in the world?

It looks like for all informed people, Conroe will be the CPU of choice in the <$2000 market... And the >$2000 market, I don't think that will be too crowded.

BTW, I can expect AMD's marketing: buy an FX now, wait till you have money, save and buy another FX... Touting 2 FXs as another upgrade option...
July 15, 2006 1:33:39 PM

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An FX-60 shuold also be a major price dropper, considering it is for now outdated 939 architecture.


How much do you think they`ll drop it to? Have an Opteron 144 atm wich i wanna upgrade... FX-60 would sit fine as a server :) 
July 15, 2006 1:33:58 PM

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The problem with 4x4 is, it is too damn expensive. 4x4 will appeal only to people willing and able to spend $2000 on the CPU part alone. How many such people are in the world?

It looks like for all informed people, Conroe will be the CPU of choice in the <$2000 market... And the >$2000 market, I don't think that will be too crowded.

I agree.
That's why i believe the FX-62 should be priced around 600$.. then people could consider 4x4 as a viable alternative, if the motherboard itself is not too expensive.
Concerning the FX-60, is the best upgrade option for current Athlon 64 users, so i think it will have quite a market, if decently priced.
July 15, 2006 1:36:46 PM

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The problem with 4x4 is, it is too damn expensive. 4x4 will appeal only to people willing and able to spend $2000 on the CPU part alone. How many such people are in the world?

It looks like for all informed people, Conroe will be the CPU of choice in the <$2000 market... And the >$2000 market, I don't think that will be too crowded.

I agree.
That's why i believe the FX-62 should be priced around 600$.. then people could consider 4x4 as a viable alternative, if the motherboard itself is not too expensive.
Concerning the FX-60, is the best upgrade option for current Athlon 64 users, so i think it will have quite a market, if decently priced.

Agreed.. say 300$ and im game for it.. Allready pre-ordered two E6600.. just want that FX sucker for my server :) 
July 15, 2006 3:01:06 PM

They have to keep the FX-62 at, or near, it's current price, as otherwise it would begin to compete with dual socket Opterons in cheap servers.
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