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Hello.

My father had a stoke a few years ago and his reading isn't all that good
anymore. However, he still would like to know what is going on - just so he
can get angry at The Daily Mail I think - and how stupid their reporters
are.

Anyways. He is not technical at all. However I would like to get him
something that could read out the days news (doesn't have to be the Daily
Mail) that would be simple for him to use.

Money is no object really. It would have to be something very simple to
use.

Ideally something with a WiFi connection that could connect to the computer
upstairs or the inetrent directly (I could get them a WiFi hub and a route
no problem). But is there a program that could send this electronic paper
to his PDA so he can sit and listen to it...and have it send it there
automatically everyday at say 9:00 am.

Hopefully it would just read out the categories first - like headlines,
sport, finanace.

When he chooses one of these categories then it could read out the headlines
and have 5 big nembers appear down the screen then its says

press 1 for man rescues kitten from tree.

press 2 for tony blair treips up slightly.

press 3 for more Princess Diana stuff.

press 4 for more middles east blat.

press 5 for more headlines.

So he just presses the number and then has a rewind, fast forward, back to
previous menu, pause button on the screen.

Am I just dreaming or is there a combination of stuff out there that could
do this?

I would have to set everything up so he doesn't have to even think about
things and just has big buttons on the screen maybe with the atricle so he
can watch it read to him and see the pictures.

Like 5 see through buttons down the side so you can still see the words and
pictures in the background.

Thanks.

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"si" <a@a.com> wrote in news:euFtd.202$0X2.64@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net:

> Anyways. He is not technical at all. However I would like to get him
> something that could read out the days news (doesn't have to be the Daily
> Mail) that would be simple for him to use.
>
> Money is no object really. It would have to be something very simple to
> use.
>

Frankly, I'd go with a computer.

Scott

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Yeah thats great. Thanks dude.

Think the PDA sounds more attractive then it can be his phone too and he
will be more familiar with that.



"Veritech" <jonathan.dalrymple@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:EOGtd.469$k23.414@newsfe5-win.ntli.net...
> As far as i see it you got two routes.
> PDA and Tablet PC
>
> PDA: get something like a T3 or T5 that rotates to landscape. I would say
> get a palm os device as they crash less.
> Get a free account from avantgo, and select the channels he wants(You can
> get the times, and the guardian for free!).
> Buy a sandisk wifi card and get the router etc. to set up the network.
>
> In all should cost you about £300 pounds if you go a T3
>
> Tablet pc
>
> Buy a tablet pc, cheapest will cost you about 800 quid. Once again set up
a
> wifi network, and then make a list of favourites. Put them all on the
> desktop and make the icons big.
> This will set u back a grand
>
> Pros and Cons
> The PDA method will leave you with some spare change, but the resolution
on
> the pda's can't touch that of a full size pc.(320 x 480 vs 1024 v 800, u
> decide!). The PDA solution might need a pc to work. If you get the pc u
> could get the text "massive and could do stuff like email, and become a
real
> net surfer, lol.
>
> hope that was useful.
>
> "si" <a@a.com> wrote in message
> news:euFtd.202$0X2.64@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net...
> > Hello.
> >
> > My father had a stoke a few years ago and his reading isn't all that
good
> > anymore. However, he still would like to know what is going on - just
so
> > he
> > can get angry at The Daily Mail I think - and how stupid their reporters
> > are.
> >
> > Anyways. He is not technical at all. However I would like to get him
> > something that could read out the days news (doesn't have to be the
Daily
> > Mail) that would be simple for him to use.
> >
> > Money is no object really. It would have to be something very simple to
> > use.
> >
> > Ideally something with a WiFi connection that could connect to the
> > computer
> > upstairs or the inetrent directly (I could get them a WiFi hub and a
route
> > no problem). But is there a program that could send this electronic
paper
> > to his PDA so he can sit and listen to it...and have it send it there
> > automatically everyday at say 9:00 am.
> >
> > Hopefully it would just read out the categories first - like headlines,
> > sport, finanace.
> >
> > When he chooses one of these categories then it could read out the
> > headlines
> > and have 5 big nembers appear down the screen then its says
> >
> > press 1 for man rescues kitten from tree.
> >
> > press 2 for tony blair treips up slightly.
> >
> > press 3 for more Princess Diana stuff.
> >
> > press 4 for more middles east blat.
> >
> > press 5 for more headlines.
> >
> > So he just presses the number and then has a rewind, fast forward, back
to
> > previous menu, pause button on the screen.
> >
> > Am I just dreaming or is there a combination of stuff out there that
could
> > do this?
> >
> > I would have to set everything up so he doesn't have to even think about
> > things and just has big buttons on the screen maybe with the atricle so
he
> > can watch it read to him and see the pictures.
> >
> > Like 5 see through buttons down the side so you can still see the words
> > and
> > pictures in the background.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> >
>
>

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Yeah thats helpful.

Thanks.


"KDE" <knott_me@NOSPAM.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:eFpxOaW3EHA.2624@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> you might want to look into :
> Windows XP Plus! Digital Media Edition: Sync & Go for Pocket PC
>
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp [...] rch18.mspx
> it works similar to avantgo, but it syncs audio and video, rather than
just
> text, you just select which news/info source you want to get info from
and
> it will load video and audio of news stories from various sources to your
> device when you sync, I believe it evens gives you the option to play one
> after the other in order, or you can jump around manually. you are
limited
> to the info sources they provide, but it might be enough to keep dad in
the
> "know"
>
> good luck
>
> "si" <a@a.com> wrote in message
> news:euFtd.202$0X2.64@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net...
> | Hello.
> |
> | My father had a stoke a few years ago and his reading isn't all that
good
> | anymore. However, he still would like to know what is going on - just
so
> he
> | can get angry at The Daily Mail I think - and how stupid their reporters
> | are.
> |
> | Anyways. He is not technical at all. However I would like to get him
> | something that could read out the days news (doesn't have to be the
Daily
> | Mail) that would be simple for him to use.
> |
> | Money is no object really. It would have to be something very simple to
> | use.
> |
> | Ideally something with a WiFi connection that could connect to the
> computer
> | upstairs or the inetrent directly (I could get them a WiFi hub and a
route
> | no problem). But is there a program that could send this electronic
paper
> | to his PDA so he can sit and listen to it...and have it send it there
> | automatically everyday at say 9:00 am.
> |
> | Hopefully it would just read out the categories first - like headlines,
> | sport, finanace.
> |
> | When he chooses one of these categories then it could read out the
> headlines
> | and have 5 big nembers appear down the screen then its says
> |
> | press 1 for man rescues kitten from tree.
> |
> | press 2 for tony blair treips up slightly.
> |
> | press 3 for more Princess Diana stuff.
> |
> | press 4 for more middles east blat.
> |
> | press 5 for more headlines.
> |
> | So he just presses the number and then has a rewind, fast forward, back
to
> | previous menu, pause button on the screen.
> |
> | Am I just dreaming or is there a combination of stuff out there that
could
> | do this?
> |
> | I would have to set everything up so he doesn't have to even think about
> | things and just has big buttons on the screen maybe with the atricle so
he
> | can watch it read to him and see the pictures.
> |
> | Like 5 see through buttons down the side so you can still see the words
> and
> | pictures in the background.
> |
> | Thanks.
> |
> |
>
>

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I may be out of line in saying this, but have you considered going there and
reading to your father yourself? My father passed away a few years back,
and I would today trade my iPaq, my PC, my wifi router and cable internet
for a year for 30mins with him now. Its not always convenient, the valuable
things in life rarely are. Technology has its place...my father was 24hrs
from death and I sat with him, his mind fuzzy and eyes dim and unable to
read. I pulled out my iPaq, turned the screen up bright and showed him
pictures of my mother/his wife, the kids etc. He couldnt comprehend the
device he was holding, but he could see the pictures clearly, and was amazed
& touched....being there tho was a memory I wouldnt trade for anything.

"si" <a@a.com> wrote in message
newsUNtd.320$0X2.191@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net...
> Yeah thats helpful.
>
> Thanks.
>
>
> "KDE" <knott_me@NOSPAM.hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:eFpxOaW3EHA.2624@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>> you might want to look into :
>> Windows XP Plus! Digital Media Edition: Sync & Go for Pocket PC
>>
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp [...] rch18.mspx
>> it works similar to avantgo, but it syncs audio and video, rather than
> just
>> text, you just select which news/info source you want to get info from
> and
>> it will load video and audio of news stories from various sources to your
>> device when you sync, I believe it evens gives you the option to play one
>> after the other in order, or you can jump around manually. you are
> limited
>> to the info sources they provide, but it might be enough to keep dad in
> the
>> "know"
>>
>> good luck
>>
>> "si" <a@a.com> wrote in message
>> news:euFtd.202$0X2.64@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net...
>> | Hello.
>> |
>> | My father had a stoke a few years ago and his reading isn't all that
> good
>> | anymore. However, he still would like to know what is going on - just
> so
>> he
>> | can get angry at The Daily Mail I think - and how stupid their
>> reporters
>> | are.
>> |
>> | Anyways. He is not technical at all. However I would like to get him
>> | something that could read out the days news (doesn't have to be the
> Daily
>> | Mail) that would be simple for him to use.
>> |
>> | Money is no object really. It would have to be something very simple
>> to
>> | use.
>> |
>> | Ideally something with a WiFi connection that could connect to the
>> computer
>> | upstairs or the inetrent directly (I could get them a WiFi hub and a
> route
>> | no problem). But is there a program that could send this electronic
> paper
>> | to his PDA so he can sit and listen to it...and have it send it there
>> | automatically everyday at say 9:00 am.
>> |
>> | Hopefully it would just read out the categories first - like headlines,
>> | sport, finanace.
>> |
>> | When he chooses one of these categories then it could read out the
>> headlines
>> | and have 5 big nembers appear down the screen then its says
>> |
>> | press 1 for man rescues kitten from tree.
>> |
>> | press 2 for tony blair treips up slightly.
>> |
>> | press 3 for more Princess Diana stuff.
>> |
>> | press 4 for more middles east blat.
>> |
>> | press 5 for more headlines.
>> |
>> | So he just presses the number and then has a rewind, fast forward, back
> to
>> | previous menu, pause button on the screen.
>> |
>> | Am I just dreaming or is there a combination of stuff out there that
> could
>> | do this?
>> |
>> | I would have to set everything up so he doesn't have to even think
>> about
>> | things and just has big buttons on the screen maybe with the atricle so
> he
>> | can watch it read to him and see the pictures.
>> |
>> | Like 5 see through buttons down the side so you can still see the words
>> and
>> | pictures in the background.
>> |
>> | Thanks.
>> |
>> |
>>
>>
>
>

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"Michael Lott" <mike@cpsusa.com> wrote in message
news:%23H9ScUk3EHA.3336@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> Get him a sony digital walkman. Seriously, the headphones can be turned
up
> real load without bothering anyone else. You can program the channels
onto
> buttons for news, sports, etc...
>
>

If you are close to someone with a walkman turned up real loud it is
annoying. Very annoying. It is far from bothering anyone else. Try public
transport and there's often people doing what you are advocating-
anti-social behaviour.

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I'll give you his address and you can pop around then....

I do take your point though but he's my dad. And like many dads he is hard
to talk to or with. He is good at talking at people though and this just
annoys me to be honest.




"Jabba" <cymry2002@notmail.com> wrote in message
news:S44ud.66149$K7.64915@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> I may be out of line in saying this, but have you considered going there
and
> reading to your father yourself? My father passed away a few years back,
> and I would today trade my iPaq, my PC, my wifi router and cable internet
> for a year for 30mins with him now. Its not always convenient, the
valuable
> things in life rarely are. Technology has its place...my father was 24hrs
> from death and I sat with him, his mind fuzzy and eyes dim and unable to
> read. I pulled out my iPaq, turned the screen up bright and showed him
> pictures of my mother/his wife, the kids etc. He couldnt comprehend the
> device he was holding, but he could see the pictures clearly, and was
amazed
> & touched....being there tho was a memory I wouldnt trade for anything.
>
> "si" <a@a.com> wrote in message
> newsUNtd.320$0X2.191@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net...
> > Yeah thats helpful.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> >
> > "KDE" <knott_me@NOSPAM.hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:eFpxOaW3EHA.2624@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> >> you might want to look into :
> >> Windows XP Plus! Digital Media Edition: Sync & Go for Pocket PC
> >>
> >
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp [...] rch18.mspx
> >> it works similar to avantgo, but it syncs audio and video, rather than
> > just
> >> text, you just select which news/info source you want to get info from
> > and
> >> it will load video and audio of news stories from various sources to
your
> >> device when you sync, I believe it evens gives you the option to play
one
> >> after the other in order, or you can jump around manually. you are
> > limited
> >> to the info sources they provide, but it might be enough to keep dad in
> > the
> >> "know"
> >>
> >> good luck
> >>
> >> "si" <a@a.com> wrote in message
> >> news:euFtd.202$0X2.64@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net...
> >> | Hello.
> >> |
> >> | My father had a stoke a few years ago and his reading isn't all that
> > good
> >> | anymore. However, he still would like to know what is going on -
just
> > so
> >> he
> >> | can get angry at The Daily Mail I think - and how stupid their
> >> reporters
> >> | are.
> >> |
> >> | Anyways. He is not technical at all. However I would like to get
him
> >> | something that could read out the days news (doesn't have to be the
> > Daily
> >> | Mail) that would be simple for him to use.
> >> |
> >> | Money is no object really. It would have to be something very simple
> >> to
> >> | use.
> >> |
> >> | Ideally something with a WiFi connection that could connect to the
> >> computer
> >> | upstairs or the inetrent directly (I could get them a WiFi hub and a
> > route
> >> | no problem). But is there a program that could send this electronic
> > paper
> >> | to his PDA so he can sit and listen to it...and have it send it there
> >> | automatically everyday at say 9:00 am.
> >> |
> >> | Hopefully it would just read out the categories first - like
headlines,
> >> | sport, finanace.
> >> |
> >> | When he chooses one of these categories then it could read out the
> >> headlines
> >> | and have 5 big nembers appear down the screen then its says
> >> |
> >> | press 1 for man rescues kitten from tree.
> >> |
> >> | press 2 for tony blair treips up slightly.
> >> |
> >> | press 3 for more Princess Diana stuff.
> >> |
> >> | press 4 for more middles east blat.
> >> |
> >> | press 5 for more headlines.
> >> |
> >> | So he just presses the number and then has a rewind, fast forward,
back
> > to
> >> | previous menu, pause button on the screen.
> >> |
> >> | Am I just dreaming or is there a combination of stuff out there that
> > could
> >> | do this?
> >> |
> >> | I would have to set everything up so he doesn't have to even think
> >> about
> >> | things and just has big buttons on the screen maybe with the atricle
so
> > he
> >> | can watch it read to him and see the pictures.
> >> |
> >> | Like 5 see through buttons down the side so you can still see the
words
> >> and
> >> | pictures in the background.
> >> |
> >> | Thanks.
> >> |
> >> |
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>

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I know what you mean....hope it goes well for you.

"si" <a@a.com> wrote in message
newsTfud.102$LO1.83@newsfe3-gui.ntli.net...
> I'll give you his address and you can pop around then....
>
> I do take your point though but he's my dad. And like many dads he is
> hard
> to talk to or with. He is good at talking at people though and this just
> annoys me to be honest.
>
>
>
>
> "Jabba" <cymry2002@notmail.com> wrote in message
> news:S44ud.66149$K7.64915@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>> I may be out of line in saying this, but have you considered going there
> and
>> reading to your father yourself? My father passed away a few years back,
>> and I would today trade my iPaq, my PC, my wifi router and cable internet
>> for a year for 30mins with him now. Its not always convenient, the
> valuable
>> things in life rarely are. Technology has its place...my father was
>> 24hrs
>> from death and I sat with him, his mind fuzzy and eyes dim and unable to
>> read. I pulled out my iPaq, turned the screen up bright and showed him
>> pictures of my mother/his wife, the kids etc. He couldnt comprehend the
>> device he was holding, but he could see the pictures clearly, and was
> amazed
>> & touched....being there tho was a memory I wouldnt trade for anything.
>>
>> "si" <a@a.com> wrote in message
>> newsUNtd.320$0X2.191@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net...
>> > Yeah thats helpful.
>> >
>> > Thanks.
>> >
>> >
>> > "KDE" <knott_me@NOSPAM.hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> > news:eFpxOaW3EHA.2624@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>> >> you might want to look into :
>> >> Windows XP Plus! Digital Media Edition: Sync & Go for Pocket PC
>> >>
>> >
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp [...] rch18.mspx
>> >> it works similar to avantgo, but it syncs audio and video, rather than
>> > just
>> >> text, you just select which news/info source you want to get info
>> >> from
>> > and
>> >> it will load video and audio of news stories from various sources to
> your
>> >> device when you sync, I believe it evens gives you the option to play
> one
>> >> after the other in order, or you can jump around manually. you are
>> > limited
>> >> to the info sources they provide, but it might be enough to keep dad
>> >> in
>> > the
>> >> "know"
>> >>
>> >> good luck
>> >>
>> >> "si" <a@a.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:euFtd.202$0X2.64@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net...
>> >> | Hello.
>> >> |
>> >> | My father had a stoke a few years ago and his reading isn't all that
>> > good
>> >> | anymore. However, he still would like to know what is going on -
> just
>> > so
>> >> he
>> >> | can get angry at The Daily Mail I think - and how stupid their
>> >> reporters
>> >> | are.
>> >> |
>> >> | Anyways. He is not technical at all. However I would like to get
> him
>> >> | something that could read out the days news (doesn't have to be the
>> > Daily
>> >> | Mail) that would be simple for him to use.
>> >> |
>> >> | Money is no object really. It would have to be something very
>> >> simple
>> >> to
>> >> | use.
>> >> |
>> >> | Ideally something with a WiFi connection that could connect to the
>> >> computer
>> >> | upstairs or the inetrent directly (I could get them a WiFi hub and a
>> > route
>> >> | no problem). But is there a program that could send this electronic
>> > paper
>> >> | to his PDA so he can sit and listen to it...and have it send it
>> >> there
>> >> | automatically everyday at say 9:00 am.
>> >> |
>> >> | Hopefully it would just read out the categories first - like
> headlines,
>> >> | sport, finanace.
>> >> |
>> >> | When he chooses one of these categories then it could read out the
>> >> headlines
>> >> | and have 5 big nembers appear down the screen then its says
>> >> |
>> >> | press 1 for man rescues kitten from tree.
>> >> |
>> >> | press 2 for tony blair treips up slightly.
>> >> |
>> >> | press 3 for more Princess Diana stuff.
>> >> |
>> >> | press 4 for more middles east blat.
>> >> |
>> >> | press 5 for more headlines.
>> >> |
>> >> | So he just presses the number and then has a rewind, fast forward,
> back
>> > to
>> >> | previous menu, pause button on the screen.
>> >> |
>> >> | Am I just dreaming or is there a combination of stuff out there that
>> > could
>> >> | do this?
>> >> |
>> >> | I would have to set everything up so he doesn't have to even think
>> >> about
>> >> | things and just has big buttons on the screen maybe with the atricle
> so
>> > he
>> >> | can watch it read to him and see the pictures.
>> >> |
>> >> | Like 5 see through buttons down the side so you can still see the
> words
>> >> and
>> >> | pictures in the background.
>> >> |
>> >> | Thanks.
>> >> |
>> >> |
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

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I think you are right. This thread is more than the usual

'what blutooth works with this pda'

or 'some gps software bug'

This is actually a thread that will have an impact on someones life.

If this this day and age I cannot provide for my father something that
speaks the news headlines to him and some way for him to select the story he
wants to hear - that is also portable and will fit in his pocket.

My father also likes to walk to the pub 5 mins down the road. If there is a
quiet moment, he could whip something out and read/have it read to him.

He could also show it to his cronies down there and he'd be the gadget king!
Massive bragging rights!

I am thinking of getting the SPV M2000 myself in 3 days time and I could
test it all and get it working first on that.

Its also about time he had a new phone - the bigger buttons would be nice on
the screen too for him. Also my mother could use it when she visits my
brother if I put some GPS software on it and a bluetooth receiver in her
car.

Heck - she might even get on of her own.

Do we have voice recognition yet for this? Maybe my dad could just say 5 or
2? Like I say, he can press buttons ok.

Mind you though - the stroke affected his voice a little bit so he sometimes
slurrs a little - more so after he has been to the pub.

Rememeber also that this affects all the family as well. If my dad is happy
my mother can relax and they will probably argue less.

I mean that if we cannot find a good solution for him then all the techie's
can shove their bluetooth headsets where the sun don't shine and I will sell
my computer, house, car and go live in the woods because technology doesn't
work!

I shy away from radio news because you cannot select the next story - there
are no pictures and he might like to hold the PDA and read along with the
voice. I think I would do that too to be honest. Just listening doesn't
let in sink in very well for some reason.

I know he won't be keen on any headphones or anything around or in his ears
because - well because he is my dad and I just know what he likes and
doesn't like. He's quite an old fashioned guy really and likes his routine.

Thanks for your response bev and any free stuff that I KNOW you MVP's have
feel free to send my way for er...erm...testing!

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>> Voice... <<

If that's a requirement, check with resources for visually impaired.
You need to know that there might not be any acceptable voice (speaking
text) solution specific to the ppc, especially coupled with other
impairments, but there are probably sites that have audio news
reading... for example, http://www.npr.org/programs/morning/ where the
page has a blurb plus an audio link.

>>RSS, Media Edition <<

Surprised you didn't respond to those specific solution suggestions

Beverly Howard [MS MVP-Mobile Devices]

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"Beverly Howard [Ms-MVP/MobileDev]" <BevNoSpamBevHoward.com> wrote in
message news:uHck7iu3EHA.4008@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> >> any free stuff that I KNOW you MVP's have <<
>
> Have you heard the term "Urban Myth?"
>
> Seriously, MVP's do get awards on different levels, but the amount pales
> in comparison to the beliefs of those of you who might be future mvp's
>
> If one took a pencil to it, most mvp's would probably report much less
> than 50cents/hour on the time they invest in this, other forums and
> other related activities... think mine calculates out to less than
> 10cents/hour... let's see two ppcs, one nice piece of ppc hardware, a
> basket of nice, but inexpensive trinkets, a few trades from other mvps
> divided by 4.5 years of multiple hours of daily responses equals...
>
> That's not why most of us are here, it's problems such as yours which
> justify our time.
>
> Beverly Howard [MS MVP-Mobile Devices]


We all believe you! Now I KNOW that you got your butler to type that whilst
you were out on your 70 foot Microsoft Yatch

Cheers anyways...

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Erm...maybe I am getting the wrong impression of you but you seem to have
about as much sense of humour as a German.

Lighten up for Gods sake!




"Beverly Howard [Ms-MVP/MobileDev]" <BevNoSpamBevHoward.com> wrote in
message newsl9U3Tw3EHA.2180@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> <end of dialogue>

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That is a racist comment.



"si" <a@a.com> wrote in message
news:uLtud.1654$3B4.854@newsfe6-gui.ntli.net...
> Erm...maybe I am getting the wrong impression of you but you seem to have
> about as much sense of humour as a German.
>
> Lighten up for Gods sake!
>
>
>
>
> "Beverly Howard [Ms-MVP/MobileDev]" <BevNoSpamBevHoward.com> wrote in
> message newsl9U3Tw3EHA.2180@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > <end of dialogue>
>
>

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You've also shown your true colours Bev!

I thought you were a bit of a whinging girl when I read the reply where you
cried about the subject headers being too long but I gave you the benifit of
the doubt. Now I realise that I was wrong to do that....and you obviously
are like that all the time.

You must be a misery to live with.

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Agreed! with one addition. Bev is not a girl.


"Bruce Eitman (eMVP)" <beitmannospam@NOSPAM_applieddata.NOSPAM_net> wrote in
message news:ujDaG0G4EHA.924@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> You have gone off the deep end.
>
> Bev is someone that I definitely want in my corner when I need help. You
> have burned that bridge and many others. He is anything but whining.
>
> Judging by your attitude, you probably will never understand just how
> offensive and insulting you have been. You really owe him an apology, as
> well as the rest of us for your offensive comments. Bev doesn't need to
get
> a sense of humor, you do. You simply are not funny.
>
> --
> Bruce Eitman (eMVP)
> Senior Engineer
> beitman AT applieddata DOT net
>
> Applied Data Systems
> www.applieddata.net
> An ISO 9001:2000 Registered Company
> Microsoft WEP Gold-level Member
>
> Do have an opinion on the effectiveness of Microsoft Windows Mobile and
> Embedded newsgroups? Let us know!
> https://www.windowsembeddedeval.com [...] newsgroups
>
>

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There is an old saying "you need to pick your battles" and boy, did you pick
the wrong one !!! feel free to pull your head out of your @ long enough to
look back thru the archives of this group, you will not find anyone who
genuinely cares, and tries to help more than Beverly Howard. He truly is
"one of the good guys" and you would be smart to apologize and move on. and
I wouldn't come here looking for help in the near future as your probably
not going to like the responses you get.

"si" <a@a.com> wrote in message
news:ff7vd.4191$Z3.2729@newsfe3-win.ntli.net...
| He is moody enough to be one though...
|
|
|
| "Jim Trotter" <jatrotteatbellsouthdotnet> wrote in message
| newsfSIVjJ4EHA.3908@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
| > Agreed! with one addition. Bev is not a girl.
| >
| >
| > "Bruce Eitman (eMVP)" <beitmannospam@NOSPAM_applieddata.NOSPAM_net>
wrote
| in
| > message news:ujDaG0G4EHA.924@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
| > > You have gone off the deep end.
| > >
| > > Bev is someone that I definitely want in my corner when I need help.
| You
| > > have burned that bridge and many others. He is anything but whining.
| > >
| > > Judging by your attitude, you probably will never understand just how
| > > offensive and insulting you have been. You really owe him an apology,
| as
| > > well as the rest of us for your offensive comments. Bev doesn't need
to
| > get
| > > a sense of humor, you do. You simply are not funny.
| > >
| > > --
| > > Bruce Eitman (eMVP)
| > > Senior Engineer
| > > beitman AT applieddata DOT net
| > >
| > > Applied Data Systems
| > > www.applieddata.net
| > > An ISO 9001:2000 Registered Company
| > > Microsoft WEP Gold-level Member
| > >
| > > Do have an opinion on the effectiveness of Microsoft Windows Mobile
and
| > > Embedded newsgroups? Let us know!
| > > https://www.windowsembeddedeval.com [...] newsgroups
| > >
| > >
| >
| >
|
|

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Clearly you are striving to receive nob-of-the-week for two week straight.

Of the Top 10 people who post in this NG, Bev has to be close or at the top.
He spends more time giving answer and finding solutions than most and has
always been willing to help. He is a class act.

--
Clinton Fitch
Senior Editor
Clinton Fitch (Dot) Com!
http://www.clintonfitch.com

A Pocket PC Magazine "Best Site" for Pocket PC Reviews!


"si" <a@a.com> wrote in message
news:ff7vd.4191$Z3.2729@newsfe3-win.ntli.net...
> He is moody enough to be one though...
>
>
>
> "Jim Trotter" <jatrotteatbellsouthdotnet> wrote in message
> newsfSIVjJ4EHA.3908@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>> Agreed! with one addition. Bev is not a girl.
>>
>>
>> "Bruce Eitman (eMVP)" <beitmannospam@NOSPAM_applieddata.NOSPAM_net> wrote
> in
>> message news:ujDaG0G4EHA.924@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>> > You have gone off the deep end.
>> >
>> > Bev is someone that I definitely want in my corner when I need help.
> You
>> > have burned that bridge and many others. He is anything but whining.
>> >
>> > Judging by your attitude, you probably will never understand just how
>> > offensive and insulting you have been. You really owe him an apology,
> as
>> > well as the rest of us for your offensive comments. Bev doesn't need
>> > to
>> get
>> > a sense of humor, you do. You simply are not funny.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Bruce Eitman (eMVP)
>> > Senior Engineer
>> > beitman AT applieddata DOT net
>> >
>> > Applied Data Systems
>> > www.applieddata.net
>> > An ISO 9001:2000 Registered Company
>> > Microsoft WEP Gold-level Member
>> >
>> > Do have an opinion on the effectiveness of Microsoft Windows Mobile and
>> > Embedded newsgroups? Let us know!
>> > https://www.windowsembeddedeval.com [...] newsgroups
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

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Whats there to be afraid of about a sad old man thats almost dead and spends
his life with a small pocket pc as his only friend?




"KDE" <knott_me@NOSPAM.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:eXMF3xS4EHA.2592@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> There is an old saying "you need to pick your battles" and boy, did you
pick
> the wrong one !!! feel free to pull your head out of your @ long enough
to
> look back thru the archives of this group, you will not find anyone who
> genuinely cares, and tries to help more than Beverly Howard. He truly is
> "one of the good guys" and you would be smart to apologize and move on.
and
> I wouldn't come here looking for help in the near future as your probably
> not going to like the responses you get.
>
> "si" <a@a.com> wrote in message
> news:ff7vd.4191$Z3.2729@newsfe3-win.ntli.net...
> | He is moody enough to be one though...
> |
> |
> |
> | "Jim Trotter" <jatrotteatbellsouthdotnet> wrote in message
> | newsfSIVjJ4EHA.3908@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> | > Agreed! with one addition. Bev is not a girl.
> | >
> | >
> | > "Bruce Eitman (eMVP)" <beitmannospam@NOSPAM_applieddata.NOSPAM_net>
> wrote
> | in
> | > message news:ujDaG0G4EHA.924@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> | > > You have gone off the deep end.
> | > >
> | > > Bev is someone that I definitely want in my corner when I need help.
> | You
> | > > have burned that bridge and many others. He is anything but
whining.
> | > >
> | > > Judging by your attitude, you probably will never understand just
how
> | > > offensive and insulting you have been. You really owe him an
apology,
> | as
> | > > well as the rest of us for your offensive comments. Bev doesn't
need
> to
> | > get
> | > > a sense of humor, you do. You simply are not funny.
> | > >
> | > > --
> | > > Bruce Eitman (eMVP)
> | > > Senior Engineer
> | > > beitman AT applieddata DOT net
> | > >
> | > > Applied Data Systems
> | > > www.applieddata.net
> | > > An ISO 9001:2000 Registered Company
> | > > Microsoft WEP Gold-level Member
> | > >
> | > > Do have an opinion on the effectiveness of Microsoft Windows Mobile
> and
> | > > Embedded newsgroups? Let us know!
> | > > https://www.windowsembeddedeval.com [...] newsgroups
> | > >
> | > >
> | >
> | >
> |
> |
>
>

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I knwo....what makes you think I don't know when I pointed out he had a
girls name!



"Clinton Fitch III" <newsgroups@NOSPAMMYTHANKIE.c3-technology.com> wrote in
message news:%23LGh76S4EHA.524@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> Bev's a boy dude... and the whining isn't coming from him.
>
> Congratulations, you surely get nob-of-the-week kudos for this week.
>
>
> --
> Clinton Fitch
> Senior Editor
> Clinton Fitch (Dot) Com!
> http://www.clintonfitch.com
>
> A Pocket PC Magazine "Best Site" for Pocket PC Reviews!
>
>
>
>
> "si" <a@a.com> wrote in message
news:BKZud.183$Ei.61@newsfe3-gui.ntli.net...
> > You've also shown your true colours Bev!
> >
> > I thought you were a bit of a whinging girl when I read the reply where
> > you
> > cried about the subject headers being too long but I gave you the
benifit
> > of
> > the doubt. Now I realise that I was wrong to do that....and you
obviously
> > are like that all the time.
> >
> > You must be a misery to live with.
> >
> >
>
>

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I came to this group asking for advice and got nothing but a load of
rubbish.




"KDE" <knott_me@NOSPAM.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:%23BDvGGV4EHA.1564@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> I truly feel sorry for you, you came to this group looking for advise on
> how to improve the quality of life for your aging father, and got nothing
> but help and kind thoughts, and you have turned it into a hate fest. you
> are the one who should fear old age, because if you treat the people who
try
> to help you like this, you are destined to live your life lonely and
bitter.
> (and obviously you are already half way there)
> <PLONK>
>
> "si" <a@a.com> wrote in message
> news8mvd.501$QJ6.136@newsfe2-win.ntli.net...
> | Whats there to be afraid of about a sad old man thats almost dead and
> spends
> | his life with a small pocket pc as his only friend?
> |
> |
> |
> |
> | "KDE" <knott_me@NOSPAM.hotmail.com> wrote in message
> | news:eXMF3xS4EHA.2592@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> | > There is an old saying "you need to pick your battles" and boy, did
you
> | pick
> | > the wrong one !!! feel free to pull your head out of your @ long
enough
> | to
> | > look back thru the archives of this group, you will not find anyone
who
> | > genuinely cares, and tries to help more than Beverly Howard. He truly
> is
> | > "one of the good guys" and you would be smart to apologize and move
on.
> | and
> | > I wouldn't come here looking for help in the near future as your
> probably
> | > not going to like the responses you get.
> | >
> | > "si" <a@a.com> wrote in message
> | > news:ff7vd.4191$Z3.2729@newsfe3-win.ntli.net...
> | > | He is moody enough to be one though...
> | > |
> | > |
> | > |
> | > | "Jim Trotter" <jatrotteatbellsouthdotnet> wrote in message
> | > | newsfSIVjJ4EHA.3908@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> | > | > Agreed! with one addition. Bev is not a girl.
> | > | >
> | > | >
> | > | > "Bruce Eitman (eMVP)"
<beitmannospam@NOSPAM_applieddata.NOSPAM_net>
> | > wrote
> | > | in
> | > | > message news:ujDaG0G4EHA.924@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> | > | > > You have gone off the deep end.
> | > | > >
> | > | > > Bev is someone that I definitely want in my corner when I need
> help.
> | > | You
> | > | > > have burned that bridge and many others. He is anything but
> | whining.
> | > | > >
> | > | > > Judging by your attitude, you probably will never understand
just
> | how
> | > | > > offensive and insulting you have been. You really owe him an
> | apology,
> | > | as
> | > | > > well as the rest of us for your offensive comments. Bev doesn't
> | need
> | > to
> | > | > get
> | > | > > a sense of humor, you do. You simply are not funny.
> | > | > >
> | > | > > --
> | > | > > Bruce Eitman (eMVP)
> | > | > > Senior Engineer
> | > | > > beitman AT applieddata DOT net
> | > | > >
> | > | > > Applied Data Systems
> | > | > > www.applieddata.net
> | > | > > An ISO 9001:2000 Registered Company
> | > | > > Microsoft WEP Gold-level Member
> | > | > >
> | > | > > Do have an opinion on the effectiveness of Microsoft Windows
> Mobile
> | > and
> | > | > > Embedded newsgroups? Let us know!
> | > | > > https://www.windowsembeddedeval.com [...] newsgroups
> | > | > >
> | > | > >
> | > | >
> | > | >
> | > |
> | > |
> | >
> | >
> |
> |
>
>

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si wrote:
> Whats there to be afraid of about a sad old man thats almost dead and spends
> his life with a small pocket pc as his only friend?

I won't say anything about you (you seem to be thriving on the negative
feedback), but unlike you, I know Bev, and I know he's not sad, I knows
he isn't an old man (at least, not at heart), I know that his Pocket PC
isn't that small ( ), and I know that he has many friends. In fact,
I'm proud to be one of them. Bev rocks.