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My friend is going to build a new puter shortly. He will be needing it for serious sound tasks (qbase SX3, tons and tons of vsd-plugins - instruments and effects, and along with that reason). So I guess 4Gb of RAM and a decent CPU would be a good idea...

What I have in mind would possibly involve an AM2 4400+ along with a decent MB; But i have no idea which one. I am not even sure if the AM2 is a good idea...

Furthermore we are trying to figure out which SC to get; It has to be dedicated to pro sound production with lots of interface capabilities and very good shielding.

This has to be it people; the ultimate sound machine....

Any help appreciated.

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4 GB of ram is almost over kill, but Duel Core is absolutely the way to go. Mobo shouldn't matter if he were to buy a good sound card with duel gb NICs. But pair him up a a few Raptors and an external NAS.

Reply to PCcashCow

G5 Quad, 4gb RAM, big hard drives and ProTools.

That's the best system that lives in the best recording studios.

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4 GB of ram is almost over kill, but Duel Core is absolutely the way to go. Mobo shouldn't matter if he were to buy a good sound card with duel gb NICs. But pair him up a a few Raptors and an external NAS.


exactly! less ram and better drives. big and fast

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G5 Quad, 4gb RAM, big hard drives and ProTools.

That's the best system that lives in the best recording studios.



G5 is out of the question as he has aleady purchased all the software...

I also think the 4Gb RAM will come in handy once vista knocks on the door...

But for the MB; I reckon there are quite some MB's out there that don't handle 4 memory sticks very well?

Reply to Anonymous

Not true, I believe AM2 platforms have added support for 8gigs or more of ram. Older mobos should be able to do 4gb just as well, while the oldest have 2gb as the threshold.

Think of it this way, your worried about spending more money now for product that keeps getting delayed and will have a large cost to it. Unless you wait till when ever the Vista is released and buy a pre-configured system from a vendor, then your wasting money. Try out two GB (1 GB sticks) first.

Reply to PCcashCow

Yup, loads of ram, space, and CPU power....If he is recording on the same machine, make sure to get a nice, quiet case...Lian-Li is known for quiet cases, but the Antec Sonata is good as well.

~Ibrahim~

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Yup, loads of ram, space, and CPU power....If he is recording on the same machine, make sure to get a nice, quiet case...Lian-Li is known for quiet cases, but the Antec Sonata is good as well.

~Ibrahim~



Try silentpcreview.com if he is recording on the machine. If this is the case you probably want to forgo some of the louder components (Raptors) in favor of lower noise components (heck you may want to do this anyhow if he is working on audio). I guess its a question of which is more important speed or noise level?

Reply to kamel5547

Cubase SX3 is cross-platform. Most VST plugins will work on either platform as well. Seriously, if this computer is only for music production, then go for a G5 Quad and a whole load of RAM.

What plugins will you be using?

Reply to mesarectifier

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Cubase SX3 is cross-platform. Most VST plugins will work on either platform as well. Seriously, if this computer is only for music production, then go for a G5 Quad and a whole load of RAM.

What plugins will you be using?



How about the new Mac Pros coming in August at WWDC with dual CPU dual core Core2 cpus with support for 16GB of RAM and SLI? *drool*

Reply to shadowduck

SLi in a Mac? Nice.

~Ibrahim~

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You'll definately need a real soundcard, though. An Audigy won't really cut it.

Reply to Plekto

Precisely. A dual-Woodcrest with dual nV graphics cards....when/if Aspyr get this gaming thing sorted out, those Mac Pro units are going to PWN something serious at gaming.

Of course 4 CPU cores is going to be about multi-threaded Photoshop/Apeture/Final Cut-type pro applications, and those SLi graphics cards are more likely to be about running for Cinema 30" screens, but with a truly viable Macintosh gaming platform for the first time in a long time someone is bound to start porting some games other than Quake, Civ and Raven Shield.

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(EDIT - Got so used to typing Core 2 I forgot Mac Pro is rumored to be running Woodcrest)

Reply to mesarectifier

Ok; but Mac is out of the question and off topic...

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This has to be it people; the ultimate sound machine....



Well I guess that statement isn't true anymore then. Unless you'll consider a Synclavier.....

Reply to mesarectifier

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This has to be it people; the ultimate sound machine....



Well I guess that statement isn't true anymore then. Unless you'll consider a Synclavier.....

It should have said "PC-Soundmachine".

This was not intended to be a discussion about MAC vs PC... So please; if you have any suggestions, they would really be appreciated.

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This has to be it people; the ultimate sound machine....



Well I guess that statement isn't true anymore then. Unless you'll consider a Synclavier.....

It should have said "PC-Soundmachine".

This was not intended to be a discussion about MAC vs PC... So please; if you have any suggestions, they would really be appreciated.

We didn't make it that. We are simply telling you that the majority of the sound production world is using the Macintosh platform. Thats not a debate, just a fact of the industry.

Reply to shadowduck

Ok I believe you. But another fact is, that the MAC simply is too expensive; he just can't afford it. Thats why I am trying to build a good PC-System for him. Ant that's where I need advice...

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Ok I believe you. But another fact is, that the MAC simply is too expensive; he just can't afford it. Thats why I am trying to build a good PC-System for him. Ant that's where I need advice...



Whats the budget?

Core2 for sure instead of AMD unless he needs it right away.

Reply to shadowduck

Here is an idea:

CPU: Core2 E6600- $375
http://www.us.ncix.com/products/in [...] PROCESSORS

RAM: Muskin eXterme DDR2-667 CAS 3 2GB- $199 (x2- for 4GB)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820146093

Hard drives:
System/Scratch Drive: Raptor 74GB- $169.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6822136033

Main Drives: Seagate 250GB SATA II- in RAID 0- $94 each
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6822148144

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-965P-DS3- $149
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813128012

Case: Antec P180- $119
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811129154

PSU: Antec Truepower II 550W- $99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817103932

Video Card: really does not matter.. 7600GT? $150ish

Sound Card: Creative (dont really know too much here)- $277 before $130 MIR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6829102181

Total- $1757.00

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E6600 is a good idea.
4GB of DDR2-667 RAM. Either 2x2 or 4x1 (you get 2T either way)
Sound card: E-MU 1212M.
Raptor? Not if you are on a budget.
If you want to be really safe, get a pair of 200-300GB drives in RAID1. That way, even if one drive fails, you still have the backup drive; however, you only get the storage space of just one drive.

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I second the RAID-1 approach. I use WD 250s. These are dirt-cheap, have the 5 year warranty(enterprise versions) - and you can create a RAID 1 "stack" in minutes with most good motherboards.

If one fails... meh - get another for $90 or so and drop it in.

Drivesavers and other data recovery companies charge up to $2500 per drive for recovery. Your drives will fail. Guaranteed. $90 now or $2500 in a year or two... It's like having a UPS - kind of a no-brainer if your data is not replaceable(and it's a lot less cumbersome than a tape backup)

Reply to Plekto

If you're going for a drive to install plugins to, then I'd get as many 250gb drives as you can afford. With 250gb drives you'll have enough space to install hefty things like BFD (or similar) and some even bigger drum plugins, and SATA is plenty fast enough for providing enough bandwidth to work sans-delay without going for a costly/dangerous RAID setup.

Obviously you can't really work from one drive (depending on the size of files/project) so perhaps get one drive for plugins, one drive for boot/software and project file storage and one drive for storing recordings (add drives to taste)

And get a bunch of RAM

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