get conroe or wait for the 06 intel quad core?

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  1. Get a conroe, I see no advantage as games are just starting to get dual-core optimized. Unless you are running a server I suggest sticking with dual-core. Plus with price speculation at 1K because it is an "extreme series" cpu, which can you afford?

    Of course DX10 GPUs are supposed to be out around the same time, so who knows. :roll:
  2. Not sure what the performance benefits will be for multi-threaded games and applications. Most programs are barely use both cores in current the current generation of CPUs. Unless you are multi-tasking with several CPU demanding applications, then it probably won't be worth it.

    Hmmm... on the other hand I could probably encode two DivX files, convert CDs to OGG files and play a game at the same....

    Nah. I waited long enough to upgrade my Athlon XP-M 2600+. The Conroe E6600 is my pick.
  3. I'm interested in building a conroe computer. Is there any way to order the chip online yet or will it be a month or more before I can even find one?
  4. if you wait untill kentsfeild, then you will see that the next "true" quad core is "just about" to come out (pernyn or soemthing like that). I usualy upgrade when i need to, not when a hot pruduct comes out. because hot products are always coming out.

    myself though? I'm sticking to single die chips. I'll buy a conroe now, then penryn or whatever its called whenever it comes out.
  5. I was originally waiting for that, but now that i see that its going to:

    - Be Expensive

    - Consume a lot of Power

    - Not much benefit over dual core


    So i'm going to get an E6300 and O/C the living crap out of it. :D
    I've been burned by buying overpriced hardware way too many times... No more.
  6. What mobo can we get know that will guarantee a future Kentsfield upgrade path??
  7. I'll probably wait for the pre owned Ebay edition.
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    god dammit!


    If you wait, you will be waiting forever. Personal Experience.
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    god dammit!


    If you wait, you will be waiting forever. Personal Experience.

    God damit!
  10. Get Conroe now eh? Can you really wait that long????
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    god dammit!


    What's your current specs anyway?
  12. Yes this does put the proverbial fly in the ointment. I reckon I'll buy the new conroe chip anyhow but this makes interesting reading.

    http://www.bit-tech.net/columns/2006/07/20/dont_upgrade_now_quad_core_is_coming_soon/

    If it means that I won't have to upgrade my mobo then thats not such a bad thing. It would be interesting to see which mobos do actually support the Kentsfield chip.
  13. Yeah, that's right mate. Get a decent board now, reasonable Conroe (reasonable?? - I mean excellent). Which is any of them, even the 6300 lmao.
    Just upgrade to quad when available..... which is what you've just said yeah? (I'm tired and I'm going to bed lol) :oops:
  14. Obviously if budget isn't a prob. you gotta go for it. I'm saving my pennies up and have been for a week or two now. If I could afford Conroe now, I'd certainly have one..... It's just got to be done :lol: :lol: :lol:
  15. Yeah, I totally agree, especially the rate at which technology is still moving.
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    god dammit!


    Get conroe now, and make sure the Motherbaord can do 1333Fsb, and will alow for drop in quad cpu with Bios flash :) you are future proofed lol
  17. Quad core is just so much spectulation right now, just as 4x4 is. No one knows anything factual in terms of true performance, applicability or problems. If you decide to wait until Q4 06, you may find yourself waiting longer. Intel may find problems, either in production or design, and be forced to push release back. Or, Intel could decide to push release back just as easily as they decided to push it forward. Who knows? A few of the rabid fanboys will claim to know, but you can file their opinions in the trash. Come to think of it, Im suprised I didnt see any "w8 for AMD 4x4 - 'cuz itz gunna rool'" posts. In any case, you have what is arguably a "known" quantity coming in a few days.

    Right now there are enough positive reviews and benchmarks out to justify a Core 2 purchase. Core 2 is coming 27 jul, thats pretty much a fact unless the planet gets struck by a rogue comet. Core 2 prices at release are very attractive. A64 and X264, (also known quantities) prices are also about to become very attractive. Quad core is likely to be big $$$ when its released.

    Waiting for quad core may pay off, it may not, but waiting is a big gamble.
  18. be careful. conroe is socket 755 and everyone thought it could be used on current boards with just a bios flash too... but it cant. you can get a board that should be kentsfeild capable, and cross your fingers it will work, but dont count on it. and I wouldnt pay any more then fifty bucks extra for a bard that might be able to run kentsfeild. everything is so uncertain right now. the processor could get a huge makeover in its next redesign, and you'd be left extremely screwed

    (everythings fuzy at four oclock in the morning, sorry for typing errors)
  19. Stick witht he Conroe for now - synthetic benchmarks and specialised software aside, there seems to be little point at this stage to Kentsfield apart from just to say "we've got one as well" to AMD and the consumers.
  20. I would wait for 4 core cpu Then the conroe dual core will be cheaper. Or if you like the setup on quad core go for that.
  21. just get a conroe!
  22. I would just get conroe. I am pretty sure Kentsfield will be compatible with Conroe, and you can always upgrade later and decide if it is worth it for the price or if you're happy with your conroe. But Kentsfield is sweet in multithreaded applications.
  23. I heard one of the big chip makers is coming out with some totally new uArch and completely revamping their chipset support to ensure that this new proc will be the fastest, most powerful, most upgradable, and least power cosuming of all procs that are and ever will be!

    I think you should wait until that proc is released and buy that one.
  24. Well personally if i had to choose between conroe and kentsfield i'd get a conroe...

    But if you really want multicore, look beyond intel/amd and buy a Sun Niagara _today_ and run a real OS and you'll have all multi-tasking capabilities you need ;)
  25. When the quad core comes out you could ask
    "Get quad core or wait for octo-core"
    etc etc

    You'll never buy anything if you keep waiting.
    Get a decent mobo, and buy the cheaper models if you don't want to break the bank.
  26. It really depending on what's for. if u want to play games and multitasking now then buy Core 2 Duo, if you want the best then wait. :P
  27. thats my philosophy - if you keep waiting for the next best thing you'll never buy anything... some would argue however that that's a good thing. =)

    Personally i think everyone should wait for quantum computing so i can upgrade my computer at a cheaper price =)

    Quote:
    When the quad core comes out you could ask
    "Get quad core or wait for octo-core"
    etc etc

    You'll never buy anything if you keep waiting.
    Get a decent mobo, and buy the cheaper models if you don't want to break the bank.
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    thats my philosophy - if you keep waiting for the next best thing you'll never buy anything... some would argue however that that's a good thing. =)

    Personally i think everyone should wait for quantum computing so i can upgrade my computer at a cheaper price =)

    When the quad core comes out you could ask
    "Get quad core or wait for octo-core"
    etc etc

    You'll never buy anything if you keep waiting.
    Get a decent mobo, and buy the cheaper models if you don't want to break the bank.
    If nobody buys, there will be no need to further push the envelope and adopt quantum computing. Nice try though....A for effort. :wink:
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    thats my philosophy - if you keep waiting for the next best thing you'll never buy anything... some would argue however that that's a good thing. =)

    Personally i think everyone should wait for quantum computing so i can upgrade my computer at a cheaper price =)


    I think also if you are asking whether you should wait, then your current pc can't be that bad!
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    be careful. conroe is socket 755 and everyone thought it could be used on current boards with just a bios flash too... but it cant. you can get a board that should be kentsfeild capable, and cross your fingers it will work, but dont count on it. and I wouldnt pay any more then fifty bucks extra for a bard that might be able to run kentsfeild. everything is so uncertain right now. the processor could get a huge makeover in its next redesign, and you'd be left extremely screwed

    (everythings fuzy at four oclock in the morning, sorry for typing errors)


    don't you mean LGA775? Yea, how about we stay away from the keyboard at 4 in the morning! =P
  31. what's your main purpose for a PC?

    if for normal gaming or office using, core duo2 E6XXX is suitalbe

    if for some professional purpose such as encoding etc. ,i think it's better to wait quad core prossesor
  32. What ever processor you decide to go for, the VERY NEXT day after you buy it, the price will drop a huge amount. :lol:
  33. Quote:
    what's your main purpose for a PC?

    if for normal gaming or office using, core duo2 E6XXX is suitalbe

    if for some professional purpose such as encoding etc. ,i think it's better to wait quad core prossesor


    Or if the purpose of your PC is to get things done quicker, i'd buy something today.
    No matter how fast quad core is, it won't make up for 6 months of lost time.
  34. Dude, totally get a conroe and then if you really want a quad-core you can wait for peyrn in a couple years. Kentsfield won't be a true "quad-core" but rather a dual-dual-core.
  35. Kentsfield Will BE 2 Conroe C2D on one chip package with 8MB of cache!

    and samples that are out now have it reaching overclocks of 4462MHz @ vcore:1.69v on the 975 chipset boards.

    http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=107773
  36. is peyrn or whatever the intel native quad core is called going to be lga775 and compatable with current mobos ?
  37. Yes it will be a native quad-core in that it will basically be 4 conroe cores on a single die rather than 2+2. As for the socket I'm not sure yet but I'd imagine it should be since it will be the last of the Core 2 architecture from what I've read.
  38. Actually, it is two dies on one integrated chip package... By the end of the first half of 2007 Intel will release a single die version which will be a revision and more performance.
    Similar to AMD, thier first 4x4 will be revised into a more mature version after 6 months into launch.
  39. Getting a quad core would only really benefit you if you can max out a dual core now. Hard to see that happening unless you plan on full time rendering on one coire while gaming on teh other perhaps.

    The thing I'm missing from my old mainframe days is a way to throttle individual apps. I REALLY wish I could run a game in core 1 and do a render in core 2 and NOT have it automatically take over 100% of core 2 for the render. I have some CPU sensitive apps that I'd like to also shove into core 2 with the rendering but it just makes them unresponsive.

    I saw a post a long while back for a utility that let you "sticky" an app to a core, so when you launch the app the next day, it defaults to the same core you put it into, to avoid having to assign them manually. Anyone remember what that was?
  40. Toms Hardware has an Affinity Manager utility
    might be what you are referring to...
  41. Perfect, thanks.
  42. A quad core Kentsfield will have a single FSB at 1066. A DP Woodcrest system has dual 1333 FSBs. i.e. 1066 v 2666. If Kentsfield used a shared cache for all 4 cores, then that would be a big help, but it doesn’t.
    If you really need a 4 core system, then Woodcrest is the better platform and is available now. You can pick up two Woodcrest 2.33 for $940 and when workstation boards that support O/Cing come out, you know these are gonna be good for it.
    Kentsfield is a kludge; it’s a spoiler aimed at quad core Opterons, and for people who don’t know any better. I hope the benchmarks are kinder than this, but I’m not hopeful.

    It looks as if AMD will take the early lead in quad core performance due to their architecture scaling so well. The same thing happened with dual-core, but as Conroe has shown, Intel can fight back. It well be harder for them to do so with Quad cores because of FSB limitations versus HT.

    I suggest buying Conroe unless you need workstation performance, in which case I suggest you wait a few weeks and evaluate Socket F versus Woodcrest.
  43. Yup, completely argree with you here. Or dude, if he wants he can check out the AMD 4X4, although I'm going with woodcrest. Like you said, the problem with Kentsfield is the shared bus. 4 cores on 1066 MHz is like what... around 267 MHz per core? Not that great if you ask me. So yeah, Conroe for now is PLENTY of power especially if you go with the X6800... it makes me drool.
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