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Arthur Entlich wrote:
> > IMNSHO, it's the best printer on the planet. Cheap to run, quick to
> print -
> > I can't fault it.
> >
>
> But, it doesn't use pigment inks, and that's the problem. The trade
> off isn't color rendition, or vibrancy, (and you can answer this
> better than many... do you think the color rendition of the R800 is
> less vibrant than the dye ink sets printing color matched prints?)
> BUT, the trade off is: dye ink which doesn't clog as often, but
> doesn't provide permanence, versus pigment which can clog more often,
> but provides permanence.
I think she said (and she can correct me if this was not her intent)
that the IP8500 produces a nicer looking more vibrant print than the
R800 but the R800 is expected to provide greater permanence. She also
said that the IP8500 is more economical to purchase and run.
This is basically the same findings as PC Mag.
>
> Although I do not own a R Ultrachrome ink printer, I'm somewhat
> surprised (that's not a challenge of your experience, just surprised)
> that yours clogged as it did, because I tested the R Ultrachrome inks,
> and they just took forever to dry (I'm speaking months).
How did you test them if you do not own a R Ultrachrome ink printer?
>
> I really wish Epson would come up with a special cleaning method for
> printers left unused for several weeks that used some solvents stored
> in the printer to clean the heads.
Why just Epson? And why should they when you can attempt to use
expensive ink?
>
>
> Anyway, I'd be interested in your experience with color rendition with
> the R800.
>
>
> Art
>
>
> Miss Perspicacia Tick wrote:
>
>> Andy wrote:
>>
>>> Looking for a printer which will Print photos and CD/ DVD's. I plan
>>> to make good regular use of it.
>>>
>>> Ive got it down to these 3. I've used ebuyer for the price examples,
>>> you can probably get them all slightly cheaper shopping around
>>>
>>> Epson R200 - £65.99
>>> Epson R300 - £77.90
>>> Canon IP4000 - £92.78
>>>
>>> What i can't understand is why the Canon is so much more expensive?.
>>>
>>> The Epson R300 has many more features. I would have expected this to
>>> be the most expensive.
>>>
>>> I like the Canon but I can't bring myself to pay so much more for less
>>> features.
>>
>>
>>
>> I have four printers: - an R800, an iP8500 an i9950 and an RX620 (OK,
>> five if you count the PictureMate, which I don't). Which do I use the
>> most? I'll give you a clue - it isn't an Epson.
>>
>> I love the images my R800 produces, I hate the way it clogs. I had to
>> spend £30 the other day on a set of cleaning tanks to get it working
>> again because it hadn't been used for about six weeks. I left my
>> i9950 in its box for nine months. It was pressed back into service
>> after my SC900 bit the dust after nearly a decade's good and faithful
>> service. Did I need to run endless cleaning cycles to unblock the
>> heads? Did I need to spend any money to bring back to its former
>> glory? No, I did not. It worked flawlessly right out of the box. Why?
>> Because it uses dye, not pigment, based inks. Pigment inks are like
>> paint, and dry like paint. Pigments are water-based and, therefore,
>> evaporate and do not (IME) clog the printhead.
>>
>> I bought my iP8500 last week to replace the SC900 and I love it. It's
>> fast, it does duplex, the prints are accurate, I can put up to 200
>> pages in the cassette. It's the best £270 I ever spent on a printer.
>> The only downside? The case shows every mark - but that's the only
>> downside I've found thus far.
>>
>> IMNSHO, it's the best printer on the planet. Cheap to run, quick to
>> print - I can't fault it.
>>
>>
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