I'm definatly more of a fan of consoles...
And obviously ignore their failings.
Everything is simpler and easier with one.
Hah! Whatever. Dealing in absolutes, everything, eh? Guess that's why RTSs and FPSs are all consoles at lan parties. :roll:
You don't ever have to overclock a console.
Sure you do, in fact I can even overclock my PSP, so I can get better performance from GTA if I want it. The difference is that it's a more complex hack for consoles than PC, so it's it funny that you'd support the inability to overclock, despite the fact that there are many console games that lag (Quake4 anyone?).
Why? Because the developers make their games specifically for the one console, not the 100's of possible PC configurations. Thus, if your console game has a bad framerate, you can safely point your finger at the developer for bad coding, not yourself for not having shelled out an extra $50 for a nicer video card.
Yeah pointing my finger at the developer is going to raise my framerate, jeez guess the finger pointing only works for foreign consoles because I point my finger all the time, and it does nothing to fix my problem on consoles or PCs. :roll: At least with a PC,
I can fix my own problem. Take Oblivion as a good example, doesn't run smoothly, I tweak the settings, voila, smooth as silk, game bug means I can't do something 99% of the time I can go in, use the console, fix my own problem, continue with the quest, or get the money/items I should've received. Show me how to do that on a console and how pointing a finger would help me complete a game I'm already 80% through? (not that I'm anywhere near that far with Oblivion, Paul *ahem* :mrgreen: )
People always say PC games look better than console games. Well, yes and no. Their resolution is able to top consoles, this is true. But that requires you to have a pretty nice PC which costs more, so obviously it SHOULD be more powerful.
That all depends on the game, some can look much better for a fraction of the cost.
1. Graphics do NOT make the game.
Somewhat of a truism IMO.
Once again, depends on the game. Sure in general it won't make 100% of the game, but it may be the reason the game is appreciated or a large contribuing factor. No man/game-feature is an island?
2. Graphics are more heavily impacted by the artists skill than the hardware. Zelda: LttP on SNES still looks more beautiful than most of the games I see now days.
All the artist skillz isn't going to make an NES game look good, so obviously it's partly hardware.
Most games try to push hardware to its max to make games look as realistic as possible, but few have artists good enough to fully draw you in.
So what now consoles have better artists?
Fact, Oblivions textures didn't meet up to the critical expectations of some people (I liked them well enough) so they decided to make their own texture mods like they did in Morrwoind before as well (a feature only available on PC, console can't do this period), these new textures are very nice, and while I find the default fine, I do notice the mod is better and I have used some. Interesting thing is some of these textures are even more efficient and therefore perform better and don't need to push the hardware as hard.
Finally, playing a game on a 55' HDTV is better than a 21' PC monitor.
Which related to what? PC can use HDTVs too, and there are some people who can't afford HDRVs and they use 21" monitors or *gasp* 20" (or less) SDTVs for their Xbox 360, so it's a red herring to even mention it.
And although you can move your PC to use for gaming on your TV, it is not nearly as worth while.
Said you, the fanboi, with no argument to back up your statement. The addition of AF to the PC version of Oblivion is a perfect reason to hook up your 58+" 1920x1080 HDTV to an Xfired/SLi'ed PC, since the Xbox360 doesn't support that resolution only 720P (which can be scaled to output 1080i) and thus you suffer additional interpolation effects in addition to the lack of AF, let alone HQ AF. If anything the top of the line HDTVs are wasted on current consoles (Sony says the PS3 will support 1080P, but lets wait and see what the games say [Xbox/M$ dropped that claim when they started developing games).
As far as controls go, I don't understand how every talks about consoles being less precise. Sure a mouse is accurate,
So you agree then, a laser mouse (doesn't even have to be a razorback or saitek laser gamer 3200dpi fast refresh) would be more precise than an analogue stick/pad, but you don't understand why people say it? :roll:
but few games are played with just the mouse.
RTS, FPS ring a bell?
I have never gotten into many games on a PC,
Which is obvious by your ignorant statements. I on the other hand play consoles and PCs and am familiar with both, and appreciate them euqally for doing what I want them to do usually as well as I expect them to (although both have shortcomings, and occasional glitches/failings)
but those arrow keys are by far the least comfortable form of control that I know.
Yeah and those original NES and Xbox controllers didn't almost cripple players, sure! :roll:
I'm a big guy and even I had sore hands after playing Morrowind for any stretch on the original Xbox.
Yeah, controller joysticks may be less precise than a mouse, but I prefer the feel of a controller more and for everything other than single joystick vs mouse a controller seems a lot better to me.
Good for you, however you do realize that you can add a console controller to a PC right? I have two of these (bought mine on sale, $15 for one an $10 for the other);
http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?sku_id=0665000FS10051357&catid=14262&logon=&langid=EN
Before that I bought (and still own) a wireless Thrustmaster gamepade, and a Logitech rumble pad before that, so those options have been available to PCs too.
YEAH!
consoles are much more social than PCs.
OMFG! Yeah sure whatever. :roll:
You know my console has never socialized on it's own, heck if it did I'd probably kill it with my Axe!
It is much easier to play multiplayer on a console than a PC.
Once again, says you. It depends on the game , I prefer sports titles multiplayer on the Xbox at work only because it's no setup time because I don't have to wait for the dorks to mod their characters like when we play on the PC, however most other multiplayer games (especially like UT2K4) I prefer on PC's so that I can taunt people, or open up the console and send stuff/etc).
Notice that I said "PC," not "PCs" since once you have two PCs multiplayer starts to get somewhere.
Notice how no-one cares. You can do both, the difference is most people don't have PCs near their TVs, my laptop however will play sports titles just fine on the TV, and give me more options than the console, and remember those controller, no problem playing just like on the Xbox.
I have never been to a real LAN party before,
For someone who's so certain of what's better you sure haven't done much of anything to base that assumption on. :roll:
but I have had sort of a mini LAN party with 4 Xboxs and Halo and I must say it is the Shiznit! So if you have a bunch of friends who would do that type of thing on PC often then PC may be your way to go.
The point is you can do it with both, and if you know how to hack you can even avoid stoopid Xbox live and play people from the other end of the country.
Summarizing, you haven't had enough experience in both realms to comment on it. :twisted:
- Playing with friends locally(expecially those of the female gender) get a console.
Yeah, consoles are gonna help you pull. You sound like you're 12. :roll:
First thing I think of when I get a lady to the house, is "Hey, wanna play Halo or Luigi's Mansion?!?"
In fact, look into Gamecube or Wii. If you are not too insecure about yourself you will find some great casual games to play with non gamers.
Or in fact you could consider going outside, it's kinda cool, there's a new update and it offers so much more than the old outside. 8)
- Playing online, get a PC. Although consoles have come a long way in this area. Xbox Live is really good, expecially if you have a lot of friends with it also.
Xbox live SUX! But thankfully if you know what you're doing you don't have to use it. :twisted:
- Comfort, get a console. (Big screen + couch = love)
Comfort, get a PC, because you can turn it of from the controller, unlike the old consoles (Xbox360 finally added that), and you can still no-DVD a game, unlike the new Xbox360 (not hacked yet), or the GameCube and only some PS2. The comfort issue doesn't favour the Console in the least, everything you can do on the console for comfort, you can do on the PC, except playing the laest title on the road is ngih on impossible with a console (my laptop is fine on the bus/train/plane, the Xbox, not gonna happen without breaking your hips :roll: ).
If you want to play games with friends, get what they have.
Unless your friends are losers and own crap. Get what you want most importantly, if your friends don't have one then show them how much better yours is an that they should get one. If I relied on what firends have I'd prbably be stuck with an Intellivision or Sega Genesis forever.
Wow, that post is way longer than I thought it would be.
Yeah, and really could've been summed up by, you're a console fanboi.
Seriously these threads are full of people who think they have the superiro system/solution, but there's isn't one sofar that anyone here can point to that replaces all of the PCs and consoles I use. You find that thing and then you have a winner, until then it's all opinion on what you prefer, and most people don't know enough about both to understand that that opinion is just as subjective as Coke vs Pepsi !
BTW, Coke is it! :twisted:
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