Welcome to your worst nightmare ATI fans. This has been years coming after all your gloating and insolence.
http://www.ati.com/

Think ATI is going to continue the high end in the long term? Probably not, as that R&D will now be spent competing with Intel.
Think again my red loving friends from Canada.
Then watch, learn.. and cry.

Now that an American firm owns ATI, profits will come back to the USA.
This was done to benefit AMDs goals, not ATIs. We will probably see R600 still, but resources are going to be shifted to concentrate the meat grinder on Intel. The ATI mobile tech, and control of Crossfire will benefit AMD greatly. Now just convince Nvidia to cut off Intels SLI boards.. and you have yourself a mighty horrid situation for Intel.
Conroe can be as fast as it wants, it wont matter if AMD/NV tweak out SLI/Xfire to be the only way to go.
I dont really care as I like Intel and AMD, but theres a ton of new options open now for AMD.

The GPU market was bound to slow down eventually, soon isnt a bad time with DX10 being a good slowing down point.
I support the new AMD in their efforts against Intel. Nvidia and AMD have much to profit here.
God Bless America, and this takeover.
Everything, has changed.

To my enemies here throughout the years and all ATI devotees, you have lost. To Nvidia fans around the globe, victory is ours.
Long prosper the New AMD, and Nvidia. Lets see how the Intel vs AMD war sizes up now..


http://www.amd.com/us-en/assets/co [...] _Sheet.pdf

Hey Kinney, this is the 5th such thread today man. You're loving this I bet. AMD knew that unified R600 was going to pawn anything NV has dreamed about...so given their latest spanking, they seized the opportunity.

Your damn right I am! And you KNOW I had to return for this.

I'm not sure whats going to happen to the high end GPU market scene.. but I think things will evolve.
What if AMD can now create a "Cell" style (multipurpose) processor that actually works right?? Theres just so many possiblities opening up for AMD and NV that its really exciting.

I'm laughing maniacally actually occasionally when I think about it.
Good to see/hear from you Paul, for sure.

AMD will still let ATI make teir own GPUs, but AMD will fund it basically.

LOL, yup would have been shocked if you hadn't.



You caugth me editing in my razz up above.

LOL, yup would have been shocked if you hadn't.



You caugth me editing in my razz up above.

Oh its ok Paul. It'd be near impossible to razz me over this news.

Although I am genuinely excited for the future of AMD now. Reflecting on everything, this was a great move for them for so many reasons.

Its going to take a while for ATI fans to adjust and realize there will MORE than likely be no R700. Forget it. AMD isnt going to waste resources on the petty high end GPU game.

If there was big money there, Intel would have gotten into it with Intel Extreme Discrete YEARS ago. AMD is going for the big kahuna... Intel.

Its going to be awesome to watch it unfold, I like both of those companies products.
Certainly a lot of good tech from ATI now in AMDs possession, as well as a ton of talent.

Its so, so very bittersweet to see ATI bought out like a $10 street walker.
I respected ATIs abilities, if I didnt I wouldnt think this was SUCH A HUGE VICTORY, HUZZAH!
muwahahahahahah.....

Its interesting to think of the possiblities of all the surrounding events, maybe R600 and their fully unified architechure wasnt panning out well? Hence their willingness to do this. David Kirk said that the load balancing ect is very hard to do. G80 will be perfectly suited for both DX10 and existing majority DX9 games. Maybe R600s tech, while working great for a single hardware console like the 360, was difficult and cumbersome to work on PCs? I'm guessing, R600 was going to be defeated at DX9 performance.. and DX10 would have been difficult to pull off.

I'm looking forward to seeing AMD still release it though as I'm sure they will. Not sure it'd be a great purchase though, like buying a Voodoo5 when Nvidia defeated 3dfx.
Back then though, I was a 3dfx supporter and loved their product. So I've been where the ATI legions are at today in the past.

Its ok...... SUCK IT DOWN B*****S! BWAHAHAHAHA

So far no one is quite sure how the G80 and R600 will perform.

well don't forget AMD, IBM and ATI are i guess the same now. I'm not 100% sure but didn't amd and ibm merge?
more funding = better products
where would intel be w/o dell?
it would be dumb to have ati stop making high end video cards and give nvidia basicly a monopoly on the market.

I am well aware of that. Just needed to take a shot at an old time forum member and NV supporter.

As much as I'd hate to point out....its the high end GPU's that push the lower model's development. You honestly think ATI's stockholder's would authorize a sale if no newer high end GPU's wouldnt again be produced?

What about the 580+? AMD has been mulling over ATI for years now....
Why would ATI pump out a high end GPU the end of August and then the R600 (and now beginning an R700 design) if it wouldnt be manufactorered?

Good lord get the green out of your eyes bud......its scarring me. AMD will still give ATI its full range of engineer's to develop SKU's...
Regardless of the information put out there it boils down to this...

The sale wouldnt have been final if AMD would pull that much of ATI's lineup.....have a shot and a beer....then let that sink in. Enjoy

Actually, its not dumb of AMD (there is no more ATI, its a subsidiary of AMD now.. dont forget it) to spend R&D money on the rather petty, and low income high end GPU race.

They took over ATI for a strategic move, and to solidfy their platform.

Not to fight a two front war with Intel AND Nvidia. They'd lose. Sorry to say.
ATI already did lose, with this buyout. Finto, done! Just like that.

There will be no high end R700, and to speak of one is treason. AMD and NV are still partners, AMD needs NV for many reasons to face Intel. They cant take it on alone, they know that.

With AMD having some control over SLI now (being partners with NV), and assuming control over Crossfire.. they have themselves a VERY interesting position.. and tons of options.
Nvidia cant lose, Intel would pay dearly to keep SLI capability now. And AMD would love to deprive Intel of that selling point.

What can Intel do if this happens? Create their own high end GPU. They are capable.. but have fun doing that for the next few years.

Huge advantage for AMD. ATI is nothing now.
Their core addition to the corporation, according to AMD themselves consists of: Commercial Clients, Mobile Computing, Consumer Digital Media, High-Growth Markets.

Doesnt sound like the high end GPU market to me!
Trust me, AMD didnt buy ATI to fight TWO incredibly difficult wars that they'd end up losing BOTH.
Dont think Intel alone is more than enough to chew on? Well it is.

The high end market is not NEARLY as profitable as the market Intel holds. Not even close.
Think I'm wrong, well Intel could have created Intel Extreme Discrete eons ago, but didnt. For a reason.
Its not their core competency. Its not AMDs either.

Dell said many times AMD didnt have the production to satisfy their needs. Well, they arent going to start battling Nvidia hardcore and make the situation even worse.

AMD is going to create better, more attractive AMD product. Fulfill AMDs goals, not ATIs former goals.

So kiss ATI goodbye, as they were gone this morning at 8AM eastern standard time. I hear Canadians crying all over the continent about losing their precious ATI. Time to find a new hobby like ice fishing my friends. Canadas OUT of this one.

I'm sitting back laughing this grand victory off in my easy chair.
People need to realize there really is no more ATI at all. Your putting motives into a company that no longer exists. Its a shell of its former self and it does AMDs bidding now. AMD can barely compete against Intel, they sure as hell arent going to get further distracted selling crappy high end R700 GPUs.

They are going to turn the meat grinder directly on Intel and keep going full steam ahead as they have been. Just with their own platform now with decent integrated graphics, mobile solutions (a big one), ect.

Thats more than enough for the ATI subsidiary to work on and refine to the standards necessary for AMD to present to the corporate world that they are now world class like Intel. They arent going to sandbag AMD by fighting NV + Intel.
Just watch.

For now, I'm merely estatic that ATI is dead. Its been a great 6 years or so debating on the forums about ATI vs NV. I was right all along.

ATI fanboys are screaming in terror all across the world.

But now NV will continue to profit from and work with AMD.. with ATI is virtually gone.
I salute Nvidia in this major advancement.

someone needs a girl friend bad.....

Or a clue....either or...

Kinney...you're so far off the mark it isnt even funny..

**edit**

Nothing changes.

HAHAHAHA!!!

Rampage you're such a tard.

You REALLY want to know what this will do? Who does AMD cater too? Enthusiasts. That's right.. gamers, tweaker and performance junkies. This will allow them to cater to that crowd with even greater penetration as well as entering the platform crowd (ala Intel Centrino style).

What does this mean? It mean that AMD will work hard on the Multi core solutions which will include a graphics core on the CPU. That's right. AMD will more then likely present us with a single chip that contains a highend CPU with a GPU on a single core.

This means a wider adoptions, smaller system sizes and a deeper penetration into the mobile sector (dominated by Centrino).

I'm no AMD fan.. but let me tell you this.. This will make ATi stronger.. not weaker. Just you wait and see.

BTW.. I can give you BFG's phone number so that you can RMA that 7900 card you own. They tend to die intermitently for no reason.

nice link.. much better than all the BS flying around here...

i hate ATi ad AMD but if ATi stops producing high end graphics cards then nvidia will loose their competitor. this means nvidia will start manufacturing lower grade cards and wont try to make them as fast as possible and will raise the price of their cards significantly more than they would if they had a competitor.
expect to get crapper and more expensive cards if ati brand cards are no longer made.
this could be devastating for the PC gamer community.

also take note that the news is talking about AMD and ATi as a 'combined company'.
ATi i think will still produce grapghics cards... they are their own company they're not going to invest all resources over to AMD and its petty little schemes to conquer intel and nvidia in the mobile computing market.
I believe you all have read this article wrongly and hwatever the author was trying to say has been strongly misinterpreted.
'As a combined company' AMD and ATi will do this and t his. Yes they will but AMD will still keep making x86 CPUs and ATi will still keep making VGA gpu's for the PC

No ATI? Guess there is no Chevy or Buick then. So what's your favorite car The General Motors Camaro or is it the GM Z06? I used to like the GM Grand Nationals, you too right?

How could you hate something like a computer parts maker??

....for heavens sakes man...get a life...