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July 28, 2006 1:15:33 AM

Well I'm in need of help for a number of parts. Going to be using this computer for light gaming and just normal everyone day things as well.

So far I have this


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681...
CPU

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681...
Motherboard

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681...
GPU

I would like to keep the CPU the same considering the price is nice, anything else I'll be willing to change up.

My budget is around 800-850

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July 28, 2006 2:07:48 AM

Go With the 7600GT XFX or eVGA, also there is another choice by gigabyte Silent-Type II, go with that if you want quiet no fan video card, which memory case,psu are you considering?

7600GT
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681...
$136.00 after rebate

Silent-Type II (no fan, quiet 7600gt)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681...
$155.00 after rebate

SP-500 (500w) is a good choice for Power supply,
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681...

Centurion 5 is a good case choice too
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681...

Are you looking for 1 gb memory or 2gb?

1gb:
Here is a good choice for memory:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1682...
Thought timings might be kinda high, you can play around with it manually and change some of them, I have the 2gb model and i got my timings down to 3-4-3-10.

I think this would be a better choice for your motherboard:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681...
Someone else might be able to suggest better..
July 28, 2006 2:12:05 AM

Quote:
Well I'm in need of help for a number of parts. Going to be using this computer for light gaming and just normal everyone day things as well.

So far I have this


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681...
CPU

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681...
Motherboard

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681...
GPU

I would like to keep the CPU the same considering the price is nice, anything else I'll be willing to change up.

My budget is around 800-850


CPU is great, the motherboard is fine, but its pointless to get a video with onboard video to turn around and buy a video card. Get the Asus M2N-E instead. Its only a few dollars more, and has many more features.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813131022


As for the video card, the 7600GT is vastly better than the GS for $40 more.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814130283

You will need some RAM as well. 2GB of Corsair XMS DDR2-800 will do nicely.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820145034

Case and PSU- Antec Sonta II - $99
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July 28, 2006 2:15:36 AM

Yeah, the asus would be better choice, I agree, and yeah the 2gb memory he suggested is also great, if you want 2gb. Look into the case and PSU I suggested I think they go well with your budget.
July 28, 2006 2:46:27 AM

Well, unlike most people here I've heard bad things about asus, well atleast their video cards.

Alright so


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681...
X2 3800+ 169.00

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681...
7600GT 165.99

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681...
Antec Smartpower 69.99

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681...
COOLER MASTER 49.99 ---Might look for something else

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681...
MSI Motherboard 76.99

So far its about 530. I'd like 2 gigs of ram, anyone thing I won't really need it? And I also need a hd, around 250gigs is ideally what I would like, and some kind of optical.
July 28, 2006 2:57:44 AM

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Well, unlike most people here I've heard bad things about asus, well atleast their video cards.


Talk to enough people you will hear bad things about every brand. We recommend the Asus board because of the all the features on it. Find me another board for $100 that has RAID 5 on board.

But, its your decision, the MSI board is not bad.
July 28, 2006 2:59:54 AM

Well this is going to be my first build ever, so what you guys recommend really influences my decision.

Edit: Would the asus be better for overclocking?
July 28, 2006 4:13:51 AM

Quote:
Well I'm in need of help for a number of parts. Going to be using this computer for light gaming and just normal everyone day things as well.

So far I have this


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681...
CPU

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681...
Motherboard

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681...
GPU

I would like to keep the CPU the same considering the price is nice, anything else I'll be willing to change up.

My budget is around 800-850


If you can hold off for a few more months or so, why not wait until the DX-10 video cards come out? I know you said you're only doing light gaming, but, it would really suck to find out that a game you really want to buy requires DX-10.

From what little I have heard, DX-10 will require a whole new hardware architecture (in terms of the video card). Not one card currently out there (that I know of), will support DX-10; not even the 7950GX2. Isn't Vista supposed to incorporate DX-10, too?

Shadowduck says it's kinda silly to get a MB with onboard video AND a video card. I agree. However, go ahead and get that MB (or another with onboard video), and use that onboard video until the DX-10 cards come out. Then disable the onboard video in the BIOS and install your new card. The onboard video probably won't be anything special, but you can always adjust game settings to get by.

As far as RAM goes: Get as much as your OS/MB/Wallet can take. Games are saying they need 1GB but really need 2GB or more to really work in the zone. However, I ain't saying get 16GB either- you should be fine with 2GB-4GB.

BTW, anytime you have onboard video (or sound, for that matter), it will get its memory from your system. So, if the MB says that the onboard video is 256MB, and your system has 1GB of RAM, then your system will only have .75GB RAM (1.00GB - .256GB = .75GB, more or less), available. Hence, get more RAM.
July 28, 2006 4:31:19 AM

As far as dx10 goes, even the most current games that are comming out still run on lower levels than dx9. So I feel it would be pointless to wait. Also I'm not really to excited about vista.
July 28, 2006 4:38:41 AM

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As far as dx10 goes, even the most current games that are comming out still run on lower levels than dx9. So I feel it would be pointless to wait. Also I'm not really to excited about vista.


I agree with you 100%, but since the DX10 cards will be out soon, it doesn't make sense to get a video card right now. I'd just wait for those new ones to arrive.

When upgrading/building, one should avoid the hype on the "newest and greatest", and concentrate on solid parts that will easily give you 5 years of use. You shouldn't "have" to upgrade every 12 months like some dickless freaks on here are doing.

And Vista does suck. I'm sticking with XP for for foreseeable future.

As for me, a system I built about 2001 or 2002 still works great today.
July 28, 2006 6:20:12 AM

But will dx10 work with xp? Because from what I've read it won't...
July 28, 2006 1:17:04 PM

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But will dx10 work with xp? Because from what I've read it won't...


No, DX10 is Vista only, but that does not mean a DX10 card won't work with XP.
July 28, 2006 1:54:37 PM

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And Vista does suck. I'm sticking with XP for for foreseeable future.


I'll assume you've tried the beta, because nobody would be so stupid as to form such a negative outlook and decision before they actually experienced it for themselves. You did try it, right?

But even so, you're basing your final opinion on a second beta, a year before it's going to be released. Seems a little like jumping the proverbial gun to me.
July 29, 2006 2:32:26 AM

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And Vista does suck. I'm sticking with XP for for foreseeable future.


I'll assume you've tried the beta, because nobody would be so stupid as to form such a negative outlook and decision before they actually experienced it for themselves. You did try it, right?

But even so, you're basing your final opinion on a second beta, a year before it's going to be released. Seems a little like jumping the proverbial gun to me.

Well, duh!, I have been testing the Beta2 release (as if I had some special access to M$).

What I don't like about Vista, though, is the sheer amount of horsepower it will require. Yes I know that a user can turn-off the special effects, but when you do, you're just using a Windows 2000 interface (so far, Aero isn't supported). That's sorta like buying a Pontiac Fiero and installing the Ferrari body kit- all look and no power. Or driving in a Chevy Chevette with the AC full-on cranking while towing 4,000 pounds (if it were so able).

Really, I just can't for the life of me understand why the OS needs to suck up so much juice. When I test the Betas, I like doing so on machines that are just above the minimum requirements to see how well-coded the thing is. I mean, would you want to spend $3,000 on a new system just so Windows will display windows in 3D? I wouldn't. And won't.

In addition, it isn't organzied very good either.

And since when did the GUI design get out-sourced to Hasbro? It's horrible.

Besides, Vista is going to have the same rollout problems XP had, so be prepared for a boatload of fixes. By the time Vista gets all patched, its successor will be coming out. Generally, I try to avoid jumping from new OS to new OS just because there is a new one out there.

But that's just my opinion.
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