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**RETAIL** unmodded e6300 Conroe overclocked to 3.5 GHz

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July 28, 2006 12:33:00 PM

Woah.

Must have some cracking very expensive RAM to do that though.
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July 28, 2006 12:40:26 PM

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Woah.

Must have some cracking very expensive RAM to do that though.


Maybe but still:
e6300 $200
x6800 $1200

$1000 saving is nothing to sneeze at 8)
July 28, 2006 12:52:35 PM

True, but I'm just trying to put the costs into perspective - that RAM will have cost at the very very least $500 - probably more.

Still a great achievement though.
July 28, 2006 1:13:59 PM

+$300 for expensive RAM
-$1000 for CPU
=$700 saving

Whats the problem?
July 28, 2006 2:01:00 PM

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+$300 for expensive RAM
-$1000 for CPU
=$700 saving

Whats the problem?


There isn't a problem - I didn't say there was one. I said it is a great achievement. I wanted to be clear that people could see that you can't just pick one of these up and go home and turn up the FSB. You will also need to invest in some expensive RAM.
July 28, 2006 2:11:27 PM

OK 8)

Just checking you werent one of MMMs undercover agents :twisted:
July 28, 2006 2:12:23 PM

But if you buy AMD you have to buy the same expensive RAM just to have your system competitive with Intel when Intel is using crappy 533MHz DDR2... So if you do not plan on overclocking, DDR533 will do for Intel, But AMD needs low latency DDR800...
If your overclocking either, better RAM is Better RAM!
July 28, 2006 2:31:32 PM

wow this is a biog blow to all of us amd fans out there :(  , o well, just better preformance for the dollar for consumers :D 
July 28, 2006 3:06:00 PM

Wow that is just amazing.
July 28, 2006 3:40:47 PM

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+$300 for expensive RAM
-$1000 for CPU
=$700 saving

Whats the problem?


In the original post it's stated he's using like $500-600 RAM and a $300 or so motherboard. Its still damn impressive but the savings aren't what you're thinking. Still a good chunk of change though.
July 28, 2006 4:35:07 PM

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+$300 for expensive RAM
-$1000 for CPU
=$700 saving

Whats the problem?


In the original post it's stated he's using like $500-600 RAM and a $300 or so motherboard. Its still damn impressive but the savings aren't what you're thinking. Still a good chunk of change though.

Cheap 2GB DDR2 $200
Expensive 2GB DDR2 $500

Cheap Conroe mobo $200
Expensive Conroe mobo $300

You must still use your fingers to count ...
July 28, 2006 5:06:47 PM

AsRock has a $85 Crossfire motherboard supporting Conroe...
July 28, 2006 5:50:24 PM

Quote:
+$300 for expensive RAM
-$1000 for CPU
=$700 saving

Whats the problem?


In the original post it's stated he's using like $500-600 RAM and a $300 or so motherboard. Its still damn impressive but the savings aren't what you're thinking. Still a good chunk of change though.

Keep in mind though that an X6800 goes to 3.46 with just the internal multiplier, and it's been done on stock voltage and stock cooler.

So in short, you're not getting an equal product for $700 less.

Still very impressive.


TigerDirect has a PD840 for $100. I was going to get it, but now I'm second-guessing.
July 28, 2006 6:15:07 PM

pd840 for $100????

are you dumb?

Or do you work for tigerdirect or something and want people to visit your site.
July 28, 2006 6:59:55 PM

So has anyone figured out how far they can push one of these on each type of cooling?
July 28, 2006 7:49:40 PM

Wow, you need to chill.
July 28, 2006 8:11:46 PM

Very, very impressive.
July 28, 2006 8:12:05 PM

Very, very impressive.
July 28, 2006 9:03:59 PM

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Heres:
X6800 at 4.1 Ghz on water.
X6800 at 4.8 Ghz on phase change. http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=10...

A x6800 at stock 3GHz skullfucks a FX62 so try to wrap your minds around how fast it is at 4.8 Ghz 8)


I tend to think of phase cooled PCs as like a show car. Yes, it's a beautiful beast, but I'd never be comfortable just taking it out for a drive...

Water cooling or A/C enhanced air cooling are fine if you want to do the maintenance, but beyond that, TEC, phase and LN2 systems aren't worth the effort for me although I've been there and done that with lab instrumentation aplenty. But to get back to your point, I'm sure that the 4.8GHz X6800 is a total rocket ship.
July 28, 2006 9:57:47 PM

Quote:
But if you buy AMD you have to buy the same expensive RAM just to have your system competitive with Intel when Intel is using crappy 533MHz DDR2... So if you do not plan on overclocking, DDR533 will do for Intel, But AMD needs low latency DDR800...
If your overclocking either, better RAM is Better RAM!



Too True RichPLS

How many posts have we seen here on THG "AM2 Ram problem" "AM2 wont run" etc etc etc. A bunch. Because people bought cheap RAM.

Dont get me wrong, Im not knocking AM2 or AMD, Im a fan of both, but the argument that an AM2 system is cheaper than a Core 2 system because of mobo costs is purely fallacious. Yes the average Core 2 mobo price is about $90 more, but when you add in the RAM costs, the price differential skews the other way.


Whether BM, MMM or 9 nm like it or not, Core 2 performs better, cheaper


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